RIP Twinkies and Wonder Bread
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Posted: 11/16/2012 6:59:22 AM
And, worst of all, Donettes.

Hostess going out of business.

They'll apparently starting to wind down as soon as next week, so stock up on the very last of their beloved junk food that you'll ever eat.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:02:16 AM
Hey, the good news is that if you buy 100 boxes of Twinkies now they'll never go bad.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:04:20 AM
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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:04:51 AM
Hm. I have a twinkie baking pan... maybe this is my shot to make *millions* by supplying the world with (better) twinkies!

But seriously, that's not a good thing at all. I may not like their food offerings,but to have to fold because of a strike is just plain wrong.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:04:56 AM
There was a bakery in the town we used to live in, and it always smelled so good going to the mall!

My DH loves twinkies -- it was one of the things he was allowed to eat right after his stem cell transplant. Fresh fruit was out, but twinkies were okay!

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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:05:28 AM
The CEO is on the Today show right now talking about it. It was a short & to the point "this is it", interview. It's a huge loss of jobs, that is awful.

Makes me remember when my ds was little & played baseball. One of the dads on his team, worked for Hostess & he would come walking up after every game with boxes of Hostess goodies for the kids. He was the sweetest guy & the kids always looked for him.




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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:07:16 AM
This makes me think of Zombieland and Woody Harrelson's search for Twinkies. Should the zombie apocalypse come now, he'll be out of luck.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:07:32 AM
That's awful!!! After feeling really bad for all the lost jobs, I keep thinking about Zombiland....


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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:08:59 AM
18,500 jobs across the country lost...just like that. Company officials warned the striking employees that if they didn't get back to work, this would happen.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:09:09 AM

Hostess is going out of business after a union strike crippled its operations.

Hostess announced Friday that it is winding down operations and has filed a motion with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court seeking permission to close its business and sell its assets, including its iconic brands and facilities. It also plans to lay off all 18,500 workers.


It seems so senseless that a union strike would lead to the loss of jobs for over 18,000 people.

I understand and appreciate the value of unions, but when things like this happen, I am truly at a loss to understand why the union would rather see a complete loss of jobs over a pay cut. Especially these days. That's a whole lot of people needing new jobs in a sad job market.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:10:14 AM
This is what happens when unions think they're more important than everyone else. They make all these idiotic demands that no one who lives in the real world would ever make and then are totally shocked when the company folds. Unions were needed at one time, but not anymore.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:14:12 AM
You will still be able to get it in Canada!

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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:15:17 AM
What were the union demands? Did they make no effort to compromise? On either side?


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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:17:49 AM
No more Twinkie the Kid?!?!


The Canada article was dated January, 2012 - are we sure they're still safe?

Surely, somebody will buy the machines and recipe rights. If only all of those people weren't out of work. On the other hand, Little Debbie is smiling pretty big right now.




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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:18:51 AM
How sad and unfortunate for all those employees.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:19:18 AM
I rarely eat twinkies or wonder bread, but this is pretty sad.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:19:26 AM
charwinter that's good news for me! I can still get my fix when I visit my family. I'll add it to the list that includes Mars bars.

This is kind of a nostalgia thing for me. Wonder Bread was like, the pinnacle of luxury when I was a kid. It was a BIG DEAL when mom would actually buy a loaf of Wonder Bread and we nursed it for as long as we could even thought we wanted to scarf the whole thing.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:21:07 AM
Let's face it. If they were doing so poorly financially that they were having to do paycuts, they were probably not long for this world anyway.

ETA fro article:


The privately held company filed for Chapter 11 protection in January, its second trip through bankruptcy court in less than a decade.


Yeah...a really well run company. Maybe the fact that people aren't eating as much trans-fat filled, HFC stuffed spongecake also has something to do with it.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:22:29 AM
I feel sorry for the non-union workers. The union workers made a decision and they have to live with the consequences.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:25:50 AM
I am sad for the 18,000 people out of a job today.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:38:18 AM
Zombieland! Gods, I love that movie.

I read Twinkie Deconstructed a few years back and haven't been able to stomach them since.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:40:54 AM

I read Twinkie Deconstructed a few years back and haven't been able to stomach them since.
When Michael Pollan was on The Hour, I was cured of twinkies forever. I'd never really liked them anyway. Now that I have a twinkie pan, I make my own, which are much better. But ya, twinkies are kind of scary.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:41:24 AM
Viva la union!

Unions have not kept up with changing business and national economy. They're a dinosaur.

ETA: A company can only sustain in this economy so long. I don't think you can assume they were inevitably going to fold.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:42:33 AM
Not a huge fan of unions to beging with, but I have to think that 92% of my salary is better than 0% of my salary. I hope the union has a plan for all these workers.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:43:54 AM
I really think that blaming this all on the big bad evil union is kind of silly. Hostess does not seem to have been a particularly well-run business in general. I'm sure there are a lot of factors that led to this, and not just the easiest one for people to point to.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:44:53 AM
Well peas, get yer' butt to thee store and buy em out. We need to get our $25/box ebay extraveganza goin to pay for our kids christmas we forgot to save for. Then, we must come back and start a thread showing how much money we made so the other peas can be up in arms about scalping, etc.

Personally, if we buy those type of treats, we're a lil' debbie family.


My heart does break for those people who are now out of a job.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:46:58 AM

I hope the union has a plan for all these workers.



Only about 5,000 of those workers are in the union and I would say from the outcome that they don't care much what happens to the other 13,500. I would be so pissed right now if I lost my non union job because of this union strike.




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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:49:08 AM
It's so very sad. The last time I had a Twinkie, it didn't taste the same as I remember? I don't know if it's because they changed the ingredients or if it was my tastebuds that changed, but I didn't like it nearly as much.

I really feel for those workers who are now going to be out of a job. They can thank their union for that.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:49:51 AM

What were the union demands? Did they make no effort to compromise? On either side?
I read that Hostess wanted to cut pay and benefits of the employees. I don't support unions, but I do understand the frustration of the employees.




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Posted: 11/16/2012 7:54:56 AM
I read that when Twinkies were first made, they were actually made with "real" ingredients, but they could only be on the shelf for 3 or 4 days.

And now they are known as zombie-apocalypse food. Ah, the wonder of preservatives.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:04:37 AM
What about Zingers - twinkies covered with frosting !!!




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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:08:18 AM
My other half is out working in the rain to deliver whatever Hostess products the depo has to customers. Knowing he's not going to be working more than another few days.

It is sad that a relatively small number of workers brought things to this point.

And now, so many families, including mine, are down to one, or even no, income for the holidays. Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:08:30 AM
I had heard on the radio that each brand would be placed "on the market", so that other companies would be able to sell them. I sure hope someone buys Ding Dongs. I haven't had one in probably 10 years, but I totally want one now!

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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:11:16 AM
The brands and recipes will probably get sold to other companies, although I'd say it's very unlikely that an entire plant including employees would get purchased. More likely all the people will be out of jobs, other companies will buy up the remaining assets, employees at the buying companies will be required to do more work for the same pay to produce the new line of former-Hostess products.

So not only are 18,000+ people losing jobs, there's probably a whole crop of others at other companies that will get an effective pay cut by being required to do more for the same pay.

Twinkies is a very valuable brand and one of their key assets to sell off. I imagine as consumers we will still be able to get them in the future... if you have a paycheck coming in that can afford those extras.

If not? I guess there's always food stamps. It's a good thing liberals have defended people's right to buy "fun" stuff with food stamps, I suppose.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:14:23 AM

I doubt a week long strike is the real problem. Sounds like old time mismanagement and/or union busting to me.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:16:13 AM
Very sad for all the employees.

Very sad for me...as I love those chocolate cupcakes with the little squiggle on top.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:23:56 AM
Twinkies sold on Ebay


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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:34:42 AM
Hostess was already in Chapter 11. In large part due to wages and pension funding. The strike just sealed the deal. So the union, rather than taking concessions temporarily for the company to get out of Chapter 11 (and I've read the company even offered the union 25% ownership of the company) they said no.


ETA: The union issues have been occurring far longer than a week long strike. The Teamsters even took Hostess management to court earlier this year because they wanted everyone to make concessions including lenders.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:39:57 AM
Nothing like putting yourself out of a job! Something similar happen here at the paper plant a number of years ago. They went on strike. The company continue to negotiate, but when it was clear they were getting nowhere, they advertised for non-union employes and brought the plant back to 24 hours and by the time the union finally agreed to a contract (what had been offered in the beginning) there were only about 100 jobs left to fill.

It's too bad the employees forced the company to close.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:40:56 AM

Maybe the fact that people aren't eating as much trans-fat filled, HFC stuffed spongecake also has something to do with it.
I wonder this as well. How sad for those 13,500 non union workers!


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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:42:05 AM
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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:44:58 AM

This is what happens when unions think they're more important than everyone else. They make all these idiotic demands that no one who lives in the real world would ever make and then are totally shocked when the company folds. Unions were needed at one time, but not anymore.
I agree and I disagree. I think we do still need unions but I think people need to remember and appreciate why they are so important and stop abusing them and be more thankful for what they have.

I'm sorry for all the people who are losing their jobs and income. That's rough.




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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:50:01 AM
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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:52:33 AM
I don't think I've eaten a twinkie since 1989. And that's not a dig on unhealthy eating, trans-fat, HFCS, it's a realization that in a world filled with all kinds of sugary, junk food snacks and treats, my options are unlimited compared to when I was a kid when a Hostess apple hand pie seemed the ultimate in indulgence. I'm not wasting calories on stuff that really does taste like blech even though we're all nostalgic for it. You can buy something in the grocery store bakery and get more bang for the buck these days.

It's easy to blame it on the unions but the reality is if enough people still bought these products, the company would have been profitable. How many different types of bread were for sale on the average grocery store shelf in 1980? You'd have a choice between white, wheat (honey wheat if you were lucky), rye... anything else? Today I can't even keep up with the different kinds of whole nut this and oatmeal sunflower that, it makes my head spin. Americans are eating differently these days and Wonder Bread just isn't what it used to be.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 8:59:43 AM
I'm going to miss donettes and Ding Dongs.

A really nice guy from my high school class is losing his job over this. I really despise unions.

We're buying a foreign car tomorrow for the first time because most of their plants are in right-to-work states. This story just confirms that we're making the right decision.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 9:00:59 AM
I am sure Michelle Obama is cheering this.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 9:02:54 AM
That's so sad that they are having to close, and even more sad that all those people are out of a job.

I will miss the Donettes, but I'm sure my pancreas will not.

It always makes me sad when companies with such a long history go out of business.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 9:05:31 AM
It looks like the union might have delivered the final blow (and contributed with financial difficulties before this point, i.e. pension funding), but I think there's enough blame to spread around. As Sarah has pointed out, times have changed. Hostess did nothing to improve or expand their offerings to be more in line with the current climate. And if they were going to stay the course with their traditional items, they needed to tweak their products or a better marketing campaign (the story I heard on the radio this morning was saying how 'Twinkie' and other items are still well known brand names and Hostess missed the boat on using this).



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Posted: 11/16/2012 9:07:24 AM

I am sure Michelle Obama is cheering this.



I seriously doubt that. Do you really think Michelle Obama (or anyone for that matter) really wants to see 18,500 more people without work? Particularly at this time of year?



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Posted: 11/16/2012 9:11:07 AM

I am sure Michelle Obama is cheering this.
I've heard that this was an early Christmas present for Michelle from the president. Forget Benghazi or the Petraeus coverups, this was the real coverup. Mark my words, there will be a senate hearing soon on the president's role (or should I saw roll?) in this matter. (and now I'm picturing shirtless FIB agents sending pictures of themselves eating Twinkies to bored socialites).


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