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Posted: 11/16/2012 12:49:53 PM
Just curious.

If you absolutely don't eat any meat do you get your protien from legumes, beans, tofu etc?

Is fish excluded; why?

I don't think I could give up my white meat consumption



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Posted: 11/16/2012 12:53:14 PM

Is fish excluded; why?


Because it's an animal?


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Posted: 11/16/2012 12:55:24 PM
I am not currently vegan, but was for about two years.

However, vegetarians should not eat fish. If you eat fish, you are not a vegetarian. So vegans definitely, 100% should not eat fish.






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Posted: 11/16/2012 12:56:20 PM
Vegans don't eat anything of an animal origin; it's not just not eating meat. No meat, no eggs, no dairy, no honey, etc., etc.. A vegan lifestyle takes a lot of food options off the table because many things - even vegetarian foods - have animal-derived products in them.

Many people become vegetarians for health reasons (there are many other reasons too, though). Most people who are vegans choose that for ethical reasons - they feel it is wrong to consume animal products.

There are ample sources of proteins for vegans - whole grains, legumes, beans, nuts, some vegetables, etc.. Most Americans eat way more protein that they really need; it is not hard at all to get sufficient protein on a vegan or vegetarian diet.

ETA: I'm not a vegan, but I was vegetarian for years. I toyed with going vegan for a while, but it felt too limiting to me.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 1:02:03 PM
My mother follows mostly a vegan diet solely for health reasons. She was having some issues. The doctor suggested that she try a vegan diet and she has been eating that way ever since. She eats salmon once a week which I think is the only time she goes off her vegan diet.





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Posted: 11/16/2012 1:02:43 PM
I'm vegan and I definitely don't eat fish. Even when I was vegetarian, I didn't eat fish.

I went vegan for ethical reasons stemming from the treatment of animals. I do get my protein, calcium, etc., from other sources besides meat and dairy.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 2:43:16 PM

However, vegetarians should not eat fish. If you eat fish, you are not a vegetarian. So vegans definitely, 100% should not eat fish.

ITA!

There are ample sources of proteins for vegans - whole grains, legumes, beans, nuts, some vegetables, etc.. Most Americans eat way more protein that they really need; it is not hard at all to get sufficient protein on a vegan or vegetarian diet.



I get so tired of people asking me where I get my protein from. I don't quiz people on do they get their daily allowance of dairy or fruit intake and demand they tell me why they don't like mushrooms.




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Posted: 11/16/2012 3:23:41 PM
Uneducated person here...

What if you are gluten free/celiac's/IBS person and can't manage the grains and seeds?

I'm not vegan, nor do I specifically have GF or food allergies to contend with so all this dietary restriction/elimination is new to me. We eat everything, but that seems to be in the minortiy these days.

Thanks for the information. I appreciate the opportunity to learn more from the experts.



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Posted: 11/16/2012 3:33:42 PM
Being vegan is a choice, so if someone had a medical condition that prevented them from consuming most kinds of grains, etc., they may well not make the choice to be vegan. Or they will eat a severely limited diet that will likely have a lot of soy in it (which comes with its own issues).

I am sure there are people out there that do both GF and vegan, and while I think either diet can be totally healthy, I think it would be very challenging (though not impossible) to combine them both and get complete nutrition.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 5:00:49 PM
My 11yo daughter is vegetarian for ethical reasons. She'll eat egg white but no yolk. Lots of legumes, dairy. She takes a probiotic and has a protein shake daily. GP and dietician have both said she eats better than the rest of the family.
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Posted: 11/16/2012 5:13:23 PM

She'll eat egg white but no yolk


Does she just not like egg yolks?

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Posted: 11/16/2012 6:12:22 PM
My vegan friends have chosen to not eat any animal products for ethical reasons. They don't want to cause the death or mistreatment of animals. They don't wear leather either. Or, let me kill the spiders that were in our cabin when we went camping.


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Posted: 11/16/2012 9:24:43 PM

However, vegetarians should not eat fish. If you eat fish, you are not a vegetarian. So vegans definitely, 100% should not eat fish.


ITA.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 9:26:28 PM
I would honestly love to be a vegan for ethical reasons, but I just can't give up dairy and eggs....



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Posted: 11/16/2012 9:50:12 PM
5 months ago I decided to become a vegetarian to see if there was really something to this. I can say that I have more energy and I do feel better overall. I have lost about 22 pounds.

After a month into being a vegetarian, I was checking out some websites and came across the documentary called Earthlings.

I watched what I could. It was very difficult for me to watch it. After that I COULD NOT eat any type of meat period.

Just to know what these animals go through for us to have meat is just something I do not want any part of.






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Posted: 11/16/2012 11:06:02 PM
I'm not currently vegan, but I am a vegetarian who toys with the idea of veganism often. The movie Forks Over Knives explains why dairy products are actually not good for you. So there are both ethical and nutritional reasons for many vegans.

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Posted: 11/16/2012 11:40:50 PM
We went vegan after watching Forks Over Knives and really researching it afterward. My MIL is on a long list of medications and has lots of ailments, many of which would be easily "cured" by a change in diet, and that was the catalyst to watching Forks Over Knives. (She didn't end up making the diet change; we did.) So, for health reasons, initially. But as we've gone on the journey, we've had some ethical stuff tossed in as well. After reading up on the health aspects of everything, it's not as hard to "give up" some of the things that others have said they'd have a hard time giving up.

As a previous poster mentioned, we get enough protein, calcium, and every other nutrient that people worry about vegans getting. We focus on whole foods and eat very little processed stuff. We don't go for the fake chicken nuggets and stuff like that. I am breastfeeding a 10 month old who is in perfect health, and our 4 and 7 year olds are also in great health. (Because a lot of people seem to think that vegan kids must be malnourished.)

We actually own egg-laying chickens and ducks, and we sell their eggs, but don't eat them ourselves. We're big on the happy chickens/ducks that free range and make good eggs, rather than factory-produced eggs. We know our birds have great lives and are well taken care of, and are first and foremost, pets, and our customers like that as well.


What if you are gluten free/celiac's/IBS person and can't manage the grains and seeds?


We are actually also almost gluten free, just by choice, no medical reason. My brother came to visit, he is not a vegan but doesn't eat gluten, and I picked up a lot of good info from him. No bread products unless we are eating out (once or twice a month.) We do eat oatmeal, rice, and quinoa as carb sources.

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Posted: 11/17/2012 9:37:28 AM
"However, vegetarians should not eat fish. If you eat fish, you are not a vegetarian. So vegans definitely, 100% should not eat fish."

Should not?
Are you the vegetarian police?

There are different types of vegetarians.
Pesca-vegetarians eat fish
Ova-vegatarians eat eggs
Lacto-vegetarians have dairy





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Posted: 11/17/2012 9:41:58 AM

My 11yo daughter is vegetarian for ethical reasons. She'll eat egg white but no yolk. Lots of legumes, dairy. She takes a probiotic and has a protein shake daily. GP and dietician have both said she eats better than the rest of the family.


You might want to tell your daughter, that the chicken grows from the white, not the yolk.


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Posted: 11/17/2012 9:42:52 AM

Pesca-vegetarians eat fish
Pescaterians eat fish.




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Posted: 11/17/2012 6:50:44 PM
it's cool to live life without harming other living beings.



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Posted: 11/17/2012 6:54:05 PM
No, I am not the vegetarian police. it's a basic definition, and I'm not sure why so many people find it difficult to understand.






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Posted: 11/17/2012 7:04:05 PM

it's a basic definition, and I'm not sure why so many people find it difficult to understand.

I totally agree. The word vegetarian has a definition. I don't know why so many people want to argue about it. If you eat *meat* of any kind, by definition, you are not a vegetarian. Period.


Pescetarianism (also spelled pescatarianism) is the practice of a diet that includes seafood but not the flesh of other animals. A pescetarian diet shares many of its components with a vegetarian diet and includes vegetables, fruit, nuts, grains, beans, eggs, and dairy, but unlike a vegetarian diet also includes fish and shellfish. The Merriam-Webster dictionary dates the origin of the term "pescetarian" to 1993 and defines it to mean: "one whose diet includes fish but no other meat".

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Posted: 11/17/2012 7:09:26 PM
fish are not vegetables.
this is not a radical thing to say.



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Posted: 11/17/2012 8:40:57 PM
My family and I went vegan for most of this year, after watching Forks Over Knives. We are still strictly vegetarian but now try not to be super strict about incorporating some dairy. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. People seem to get their panties in a wad if you claim to be vegan but occasionally have some dairy. For that reason, a lot of people I know that basically consider themselves vegan actually use the label plant-based. For us it started for health reason and after doing more research ethical reasons definitely play a part in our decision. People should know where their food comes from and the horror that animals have to go through just because people think they can't give up meat. If you really think about how people selectively choose which animals are acceptable to eat and which aren't, it's mind boggling that people can make that justification. Why eat a pig but not your dog?
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