| |
 purpledaisy Calm PeaNut 116,261 November 2003 Posts: 25,155 Layouts: 102
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:09:37 PM
Is it really THAT difficult to simply keep an ashtray in their vehicle and empty that ashtray in the next available trashcan? I will admit that my first thought when I see someone do that is, "what a loser!"
*putting my big girl panties on for this conversation* |
Becca
May we be consumed with the Creator of all things rather than with things created.
6 rings - no cheating! Go STEELERS!
Holding a grudge is letting someone live rent-free in your head. | |
|
|
 myshelly Ancient Ancestor of Pea PeaNut 471,001 June 2010 Posts: 7,389 Layouts: 0
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:11:50 PM
My personal opinion?
Because smokers are dirty, disgusting, selfish people. And this habit is just more proof of that.
| |
|
 ilovebuble StuckOnPeas PeaNut 539,539 January 2012 Posts: 2,467 Layouts: 0
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:12:43 PM
Guess I'll be putting on mine too, a woman I know got a ticket, a fine and she had to pick up trash on the side of the highway after getting caught flicking her cigarette butt out of her window. She was looking for sympathy and she didn't get it from me. | |
|
 Katybee PeaFixture PeaNut 379,678 June 2008 Posts: 3,317 Layouts: 11 Loc: Enjoying the summer sun!
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:13:41 PM
I think you can put your big girl panties back in the drawer. I don't think anyone will actually own up to thinking it's ok. It's no different than throwing a hamburger wrapper out the window--trash is trash. Oh--except it could cause devastating wildfires. |
|
|
 Simply_Lovely PeaFixture PeaNut 463,295 April 2010 Posts: 3,283 Layouts: 3 Loc: New York City
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:14:41 PM
My personal opinion?
Because smokers are dirty, disgusting, selfish people. And this habit is just more proof of that.
Well thankfully opinions are like @ssholes - everyone has one.  |
Meow! | |
|
|
 ***Jen*** That's What She Said PeaNut 29,051 February 2002 Posts: 10,109 Layouts: 1
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:15:25 PM
b/c there are a lot of selfish people in the world. |
|
|
 janet r AncestralPea PeaNut 22,327 October 2001 Posts: 4,074 Layouts: 17
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:15:44 PM
I was sitting at a red light looking beside me on the ground wondering the same thing earlier. Ick. | |
|
 ~*kristina*~ Typical Liberal Pea PeaNut 55,230 November 2002 Posts: 17,507 Layouts: 106 Loc: Hawkeye Nation
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:16:08 PM
Because they don't want to dirty their car ashtrays. Do cars still have ashtrays? My new Toyota Rav4 doesn't.
I don't smoke, I quit almost 10 years ago, but I clearly remember throwing my cig butts out the window. I'm not condoning it, but I did it...I know I did. I also field stripped cigarettes in the military and stuffed them in my pockets (back in the day when you could smoke during training). |
|
|
 wholarmor I'm NOT a sack sniffer! PeaNut 29,699 February 2002 Posts: 24,045 Layouts: 92 Loc: SE Washington
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:18:22 PM
Oh yeah. Nothing like having a still glowing butt come up at you because the jerk in front of you decided to throw it out the window. Not to mention the wildfires started.
I hate that I have to pick up cigarette butts around my yard and driveway. I know several neighbors that smoke, but I'd like to know which jerk thinks it's okay to use my yard as their trashcan. |
Kris
Mom to Kyrie(9), Isaiah(8), and Jayden(5)
my blog
 | |
|
|
 KikiPEA Pea, Glorious Pea PeaNut 43,536 July 2002 Posts: 15,277 Layouts: 160 Loc: In the land of loss...weight loss, that is. 35.5 down, 10-15 to go! :D
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:19:25 PM
*putting my big girl panties on for this conversation*
I'm right there with you. It chaps my hide when people do that. I don't care what the excuse is, it's wrong and nasty.
Flame away! |
|
|
 cmpeter PEAceful Pea PeaNut 14,521 April 2001 Posts: 34,366 Layouts: 31 Loc: Washington State
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:21:23 PM
I find it incredibly tacky and rude. I guess they have decided that inside their car is more important than any place outside. |
|
|
 wholarmor I'm NOT a sack sniffer! PeaNut 29,699 February 2002 Posts: 24,045 Layouts: 92 Loc: SE Washington
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:24:58 PM
And a lot of cars don't have ashtrays anymore, but you can buy car ashtrays that are in the shape of a cup that will fit in a cup holder. There really isn't an excuse. |
Kris
Mom to Kyrie(9), Isaiah(8), and Jayden(5)
my blog
 | |
|
|
 ~*kristina*~ Typical Liberal Pea PeaNut 55,230 November 2002 Posts: 17,507 Layouts: 106 Loc: Hawkeye Nation
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:25:18 PM
It is tacky and rude.....and dangerous, but to ask why? I don't think a smoker will answer it. I did it when I was a smoker, but why? probably because I didn't want the butt in my car. Again, not condoning it, just trying to give you an answer why.
|
|
|
 Ginger_64 BucketHead PeaNut 562,204 July 2012 Posts: 769 Layouts: 0
| Posted: 11/21/2012 3:26:46 PM
I think they just don't see it as trash. They probably grew up watching parents or whomever throw their butts down and ground them out with their shoe.
I remember a friend of mine who smoked talking to me awhile back and she was saying how impressed she was with her boyfriend's car because it didn't smell of smoke. He told her that it was because he didn't use his ashtray; he always threw his butts out the window. She thought that was a brilliant idea and started doing it herself. I just looked at her aghast like "what???". | |
|
 purpledaisy Calm PeaNut 116,261 November 2003 Posts: 25,155 Layouts: 102
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:31:57 PM
I also field stripped cigarettes in the military and stuffed them in my pockets (back in the day when you could smoke during training).
What is that? I've never heard of that. *I* think it's ok. So there.
This is tongue in cheek, right?
Because smokers are dirty, disgusting, selfish people. And this habit is just more proof of that.
Someone I'm close to smokes and they are none of those things. |
Becca
May we be consumed with the Creator of all things rather than with things created.
6 rings - no cheating! Go STEELERS!
Holding a grudge is letting someone live rent-free in your head. | |
|
|
 Simply_Lovely PeaFixture PeaNut 463,295 April 2010 Posts: 3,283 Layouts: 3 Loc: New York City
 | |
 sammi71 PeaFixture PeaNut 392,446 September 2008 Posts: 3,512 Layouts: 0 Loc: The U.K.
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:35:06 PM
I assume it's because it's easier (and you could argue, safer) than reaching down to the ashtray while driving. That's probably the same argument as those who spit gum out of the window put forth.  | |
|
 ~*kristina*~ Typical Liberal Pea PeaNut 55,230 November 2002 Posts: 17,507 Layouts: 106 Loc: Hawkeye Nation
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:36:00 PM
I also field stripped cigarettes in the military and stuffed them in my pockets (back in the day when you could smoke during training).
What is that? I've never heard of that.
When I was in the military and we were training, you could smoke during breaks, but you couldn't toss your cigarettes on the ground after you were done, you had to "field strip" them...once you smoked it, you put it out and you stripped out the filter and paper from what was left of any tobacco and you put the remains in your pockets for disposal when you were near a trash receptacle. |
|
|
 momofkandn PeaAddict PeaNut 159,041 July 2004 Posts: 1,039 Layouts: 0 Loc: Maryland
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:36:46 PM
Because most cars don't have and ashtray and the butts stink up the car even worse than smoking in it. I don't do it because I do worry about fires but not as much about littering. | |
|
 Shevy Harley Riding Pea PeaNut 10,051 January 2001 Posts: 7,254 Layouts: 9 Loc: 10,000 Lakes and Double Cities!
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:38:10 PM
My parents did this for years. When I started riding a motorcycle I was almost lit on fire from a hot red butt flying out a window at me. After I told them about it, they now keep them in the car to toss later.
You never know where that butt is going once you fling it out eh window. It was scarey trying to slow down, pull over and get tht hot butt out of my clothing. |
|
|
 KikiPEA Pea, Glorious Pea PeaNut 43,536 July 2002 Posts: 15,277 Layouts: 160 Loc: In the land of loss...weight loss, that is. 35.5 down, 10-15 to go! :D
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:38:33 PM
But I want to note that it's ONLY in the car.
That doesn't make it right. It's just as disgusting and irritating as the ones on the ground next to the trashcan. |
|
|
 asr70 PeaAddict PeaNut 508,279 May 2011 Posts: 1,047 Layouts: 0
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:39:38 PM
because smokers are selfish. Yes, so are a lot of other people, me included, but the wildfire danger - or the potential of it going into the car behind - which has happened to us - especially ticks me off.
off topic a little bit, but this blogger that I came across the other day goes to her local beach and collects litter. Apparently butts are one of the biggest causes of litter in the world?? |
|
|
 tinkgumby StuckOnPeas PeaNut 281,136 October 2006 Posts: 2,262 Layouts: 6 Loc: DFW, TX
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:40:15 PM
That's one of my personal pet peeves as well. I always want to shout "The world is not your ashtray!"  |
|
|
 purpledaisy Calm PeaNut 116,261 November 2003 Posts: 25,155 Layouts: 102
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:41:24 PM
When I was in the military and we were training, you could smoke during breaks, but you couldn't toss your cigarettes on the ground after you were done, you had to "field strip" them...once you smoked it, you put it out and you stripped out the filter and paper from what was left of any tobacco and you put the remains in your pockets for disposal when you were near a trash receptacle.
Thanks for explaining. |
Becca
May we be consumed with the Creator of all things rather than with things created.
6 rings - no cheating! Go STEELERS!
Holding a grudge is letting someone live rent-free in your head. | |
|
|
 wholarmor I'm NOT a sack sniffer! PeaNut 29,699 February 2002 Posts: 24,045 Layouts: 92 Loc: SE Washington
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:42:10 PM
Simply lovely, it's not just wildfires. It's a hazard to others around you, and no better than the people you get pea-livid at for disposing of it in the parking lot. And cigarette butts are not bio-degradable, so don't think you are doing the environment a favor when you throw it out the window of the car. If you are considerate enough to go out of your way to throw it in a receptacle in public, please think about being considerate enough to get a car ashtray and dump it in the proper place(not in the parking lot like I've seen other inconsiderate people do). |
Kris
Mom to Kyrie(9), Isaiah(8), and Jayden(5)
my blog
 | |
|
|
 wren*walk PeaAddict PeaNut 481,431 September 2010 Posts: 1,822 Layouts: 0
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:42:38 PM
Why do people throw anything out of their car window? I see people do it all the time. Ciagarettes, fast food wrappers, bags of trash...
The ones that get me are the ones who empty their whole ashtray out on the ground from where they are parked in the parking lot. Selfish pigs.
And I smoke, and I don't throw them out of the window, I use the ashtray, which I empty at hom.
| |
|
 back to *pea*ality PeaFixture PeaNut 471,633 June 2010 Posts: 3,701 Layouts: 0
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:42:55 PM
One of my pet peeves is littering. It says I don't care about the environment.  | |
|
 Simply_Lovely PeaFixture PeaNut 463,295 April 2010 Posts: 3,283 Layouts: 3 Loc: New York City
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:43:55 PM
That doesn't make it right. It's just as disgusting and irritating as the ones on the ground next to the trashcan.
Oh FFS, I didn't say it was right! OP asked why, and I was explaining the thought process as a smoker.
And I find smoker shaming irritating, so we are even.
Simply lovely, it's not just wildfires. It's a hazard to others around you, and no better than the people you get pea-livid at for disposing of it in the parking lot. And cigarette butts are not bio-degradable, so don't think you are doing the environment a favor when you throw it out the window of the car. If you are considerate enough to go out of your way to throw it in a receptacle in public, please think about being considerate enough to get a car ashtray and dump it in the proper place(not in the parking lot like I've seen other inconsiderate people do).
I appreciate your polite reply and I will certainly consider it. Shevy's story made me think about it. |
Meow! | |
|
|
 purpledaisy Calm PeaNut 116,261 November 2003 Posts: 25,155 Layouts: 102
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:44:56 PM
Simply Lovely, I would request you reconsider what you are doing and please dispose of your butts in a less dangerous and environmentally impacting way.  |
Becca
May we be consumed with the Creator of all things rather than with things created.
6 rings - no cheating! Go STEELERS!
Holding a grudge is letting someone live rent-free in your head. | |
|
|
 sweetandsour PeaAddict PeaNut 134,862 March 2004 Posts: 1,399 Layouts: 4 Loc: north of 49
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:45:55 PM
My SIL had their truck written off due to an inconsiderate smoker who tossed his/her lit cigarette butt out their window. It smoldered in the bales of hay in the back of truck when they were bringing them from one field to another and finally set their truck on fire. Neither of them have ever smoked in their lives.
A coworker almost set his own car on fire when his lit cigarette butt blew back into his car back seat. Luckily he was still in the car when the back seat started to smolder. He figured it was a sign to start using an ashtray. It fits in the cup holder.
There is no excuse IMO. I've never thrown anything out my window - not gum, not sunflower seeds, nothing. I would like to think I am the norm, not the exception. |
Tee
mum to 2 hockey crazy kids | |
|
|
 purpledaisy Calm PeaNut 116,261 November 2003 Posts: 25,155 Layouts: 102
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:46:37 PM
The ones that get me are the ones who empty their whole ashtray out on the ground from where they are parked in the parking lot. Selfish pigs.
And I smoke, and I don't throw them out of the window, I use the ashtray, which I empty at hom.
Yes, that really gets me! And thank you. |
Becca
May we be consumed with the Creator of all things rather than with things created.
6 rings - no cheating! Go STEELERS!
Holding a grudge is letting someone live rent-free in your head. | |
|
|
 Pam in CA PeaAddict PeaNut 249,852 February 2006 Posts: 1,057 Layouts: 22 Loc: So. Cal.
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:51:49 PM
I don't get it either. We've had several major wildfires around here in the last 9 years & people still do it. I don't even get why people would need signs telling them not to do it whether it's due to increased fire danger or just common courtesy/sense. |
|
|
 wholarmor I'm NOT a sack sniffer! PeaNut 29,699 February 2002 Posts: 24,045 Layouts: 92 Loc: SE Washington
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 3:53:55 PM
Thanks, simply lovely.
Here's some examples of car ashtrays you can buy for your car that will fit in a cup holder-
ashtrays
I'm not a fan of cigarette smoking, but I appreciate those who make an effort to be conscientious of those around them- and the environment. |
Kris
Mom to Kyrie(9), Isaiah(8), and Jayden(5)
my blog
 | |
|
|
 wholarmor I'm NOT a sack sniffer! PeaNut 29,699 February 2002 Posts: 24,045 Layouts: 92 Loc: SE Washington
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 4:03:58 PM
Here's another reason not to throw your cigarette butt out the window of your car-
Lesson learned
|
Kris
Mom to Kyrie(9), Isaiah(8), and Jayden(5)
my blog
 | |
|
|
 CTLover1 PeaAddict PeaNut 5,797 August 2000 Posts: 1,073 Layouts: 0 Loc: WV
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 4:07:21 PM
People throw their butts out the window for the same reason they don't return their shopping carts. They don't think of themselves as being rude and inconsiderate, just entitled. However, in my mind, they are being rude and inconsiderate...and lazy. No one is entitled to make a mess for someone else to clean up or have to look at. JMHO | |
|
 Georgiapea Mom to the Wild Things. PeaNut 96,783 July 2003 Posts: 26,420 Layouts: 0 Loc: Poss-a-Dillo Hill, Ozark, AL
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 4:13:46 PM
I'm with Shelly. | |
|
 *SeikasHaven* AncestralPea PeaNut 354,541 January 2008 Posts: 4,254 Layouts: 24
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 4:15:03 PM
My coworker (who is lovely and thoughtful in a million other ways) says she does it because she doesn't want her car to smell like smoke. It ticks me off to no end. |
|
|
 crimsoncat05 PeaFixture PeaNut 273,602 August 2006 Posts: 3,295 Layouts: 99 Loc: Phoenix, AZ area
 | |
 poppyred PeaNut PeaNut 248,634 February 2006 Posts: 427 Layouts: 0 Loc: Colorado
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 4:20:28 PM
I'm in the "hate it" camp. But, it didn't dawn on me until a few years ago when my kids were learning about water run-off that all those butts end up in our rivers, streams, lakes and eventually our oceans. They never really go away. |
"First time I read the dictionary, I thought it was a poem about everything." - Steven Wright
| |
|
|
 TeamSteve The saddest thing in life is wasted talent. PeaNut 263,696 June 2006 Posts: 5,158 Layouts: 0 Loc: Florida, for now.
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 4:24:29 PM
RUDE!!! |
___________________________________________________________
Saving one dog will not change the world,
but surely for that one dog, the world will change forever. | |
|
|
 batya Making the WWW better, one post at a time. PeaNut 59,094 December 2002 Posts: 31,816 Layouts: 24 Loc: up on my high horse
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 4:24:41 PM
B/c keeping it inside the car is yucky.
All smokers aren't disgusting and dirty just like all non smokers aren't self-righteous and perfect.
But I'll tell you, when those flaming butts come flying out moving car windows and my window is open, it scares the crap outta me. I hate it. And *that particular* driver/smoker is a dirty, selfish, nasty pig of a person. |
OK. Newbie. This is how it works. If your post consists of 80% sanity, 10% stupidity and 10% all kinds of crazy, we immediately focus on the 20% b/c it discredits the 80%.
| |
|
|
 Sue_Pea Ancient Ancestor of Pea PeaNut 36,163 April 2002 Posts: 9,851 Layouts: 5 Loc: here, there and everywhere
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 4:27:54 PM
Easy. Because they are ignorant jerks. |
|
|
 obsidian StuckOnPeas PeaNut 300,909 March 2007 Posts: 2,154 Layouts: 1 Loc: Waikato
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 4:39:24 PM
Nobody should smoke in cars the smoke has nowhere to go. It gets into the upholstery lingers and it can make people sick.
So anyone who smokes in a car is deliberately making themselves and their passengers sick.
It's the same reason why people stick their hands into boiling water and then complain about the burns. | |
|
 sharonmnc Ancient Ancestor of Pea PeaNut 39,386 May 2002 Posts: 6,854 Layouts: 28 Loc: Charlotte, NC
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 4:50:17 PM
Selfish, slovenly idiots. |
|
|
 Aggiemom92 StuckOnPeas PeaNut 90,200 June 2003 Posts: 2,683 Layouts: 2
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 4:57:53 PM
I don't think of it as trash.
Would you toss a gum wrapper out of the window? That's just as 'small.' |
|
|
 tmifox PeaAddict PeaNut 258,931 April 2006 Posts: 1,451 Layouts: 28 Loc: Utah
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 5:08:42 PM
|
|
|
 Simply_Lovely PeaFixture PeaNut 463,295 April 2010 Posts: 3,283 Layouts: 3 Loc: New York City
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 5:12:31 PM
Would you toss a gum wrapper out of the window? That's just as 'small.'
It has absolutely nothing to do with size. It's a psychological thing, don't try to understand it. And I don't throw out gum either, I put it in a gum wrapper which is in my pocket because I don't throw them out of windows.  |
Meow! | |
|
|
 Canadian Girl 77 StuckOnPeas PeaNut 33,042 March 2002 Posts: 2,865 Layouts: 42 Loc: Canada
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 5:14:52 PM
because SOME people (not all people) are asses. |
|
|
 Spongemom Scrappants HRH pilates teaching wino ball of fun PeaNut 297,141 February 2007 Posts: 10,616 Layouts: 31 Loc: South Carolina
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 5:17:18 PM
It's not only plain and simply littering... but it's potentially dangerous. I find it inexcusable. |
Angie
Where the boys are... my new husband, my four sons and my boy cat.
| |
|
|
 wholarmor I'm NOT a sack sniffer! PeaNut 29,699 February 2002 Posts: 24,045 Layouts: 92 Loc: SE Washington
 | Posted: 11/21/2012 5:19:28 PM
It IS trash. It doesn't decompose. Plus, it contains harmful chemicals that birds and other small animals might eat- thinking it is food. It is harmful to the environment in all kinds of ways. Plus, it's ugly to look at(so is gum- I hate seeing gum all over the sidewalks- and getting it stuck to the bottom of my shoe. So gross!) I wish people would understand that. I dislike litter in general, but cigarette butts are nasty and harmful in so many ways that people refuse to see. |
Kris
Mom to Kyrie(9), Isaiah(8), and Jayden(5)
my blog
 | |
|
|