How would you handle this restaurant experience?
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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:25:43 PM
I'm just curious about how everyone would think in this situation.

DH and I went out to a fairly new restaurant. The food is really good, it was our second trip. It was almost 8:20pm when we got there and it was still pretty crowded. We were told a 20 minute wait but we were seated within five minutes.

We ordered an appetizer (boneless wings) and drinks the first time the waitress stopped at the table. When she brought us our drinks, we ordered our meals, that each came with a salad. After about five minutes our salads arrived (they were delicious and very generous for side salads) when we were half way through our salads she stopped to see if there was anything we needed. DH asked if our wings were coming. She mentioned they would be out soon, that the kitchen was a bit backed up because they had a large private party that they were cooking for and wanted to feed them all at once.

Right after she left to check on the wings, someone else brought them to the table. We ate those, and then we sat for another 15 minutes. Still no food. Waitress was great, brought us more refills, took our used plates, apologized again and mentioned the large party and that the kitchen was getting yelled at, and after another maybe 5 minutes after that they finally brought out our food. She again apologized profusely.

I'm going to guesstimate that the time the elapsed between us ordering our entrees to getting them was probably about 35-40 minutes. I figured that the restaurant would offer something...not charge us for drinks, discount the appetizer (I wouldn't expect it free, it was $10) because of the delay in getting our food, but they did not.

We will definitely go back again because their food is delicious, we will probably just avoid it on the weekend nights from now on.

Do you think the restaurant should have offered anything as an apology for the wait? We've been in this situation a time or two before, and it always seems that someone offers you something in return for the inconvenience. Part of me says that it shouldn't be a big deal because it was Friday night, and the other part of me says they shouldn't book large parties on busy nights if the kitchen can't handle it.

What do you all think?


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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:30:24 PM
I don't think they owe you anything.....
I wish more restaurants would let you finish your apps and salad before bringing your food. If 40 minutes elapsed between ordering and receiving the main dish, I think that is good timing. And as you said, it is a Friday night. You really think they are going to turn away a large party on a weekend night? That's crazy.





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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:32:15 PM
To be honest, that's about as long as it takes for us to get our meals anywhere around here (especially on weekend nights). I'd be really happy with the explanation and apology.


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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:32:46 PM
Honestly? I don't think that was such a bad experience. In the 35-40 minutes you were waiting for your main meal, you had salads and an appetizer, AND the waitress apologized for your wait.

I wouldn't have expected anything at all, because that just doesn't seem like an unreasonable amount of time to me, unless you were sitting there with no salad, no appetizer, and no drink refills.

I really hope you didn't show your displeasure in your tip, as it doesn't sound like anything your waitress had any control over, and she was doing her job.


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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:33:53 PM
At least you got an apology, this is SOP around here on busy weekend nights.

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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:37:54 PM
Oh Lord no Suzy....still gave my standard 20%.

I guess we are just used to quicker service...lol. Most times we go out our food comes one just after the other. (I also don't like it when the entree comes out in the middle of the salad or appy) That's why we were worried about the appy, we thought it was going to end up coming with the food because we were just about done with our salads before the appy even got there. Then there was a long wait between the appy and the food.

It wasn't just a large party, it was a private party, looked like a Christmas Party. I think if you are going to be booking a private room that your kitchen should be able to handle the load without disrupting the service in the main dining room, no?

ETA: My brother has been a server and has had absolute horror stories about people not tipping him and the reasons why. He used to work at Bravo Cucina. They give out complimentary bread with your meal, but they stop making it after a certain time at night. This one party he had spent quite a bit of money on their meal but didn't tip him because the complimentary bread was no longer available...


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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:39:46 PM
I don't think the restaurant needed to do anything. Not hearing anything in your experience that would even come close to requiring compensation from the restaurant.

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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:40:13 PM
They owe you nothing. I really don't believe your wait was all that bad considering you had appy's during your wait.


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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:42:30 PM
That sounds like a perfectly normal restaurant experience on a busy weekend night. We experienced the same thing tonight and i never would think they "owe" me anything.

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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:45:26 PM
Yeah, perhaps I'm not taking the weekend thing into consideration enough. Most of the time, our eating out occurs during the week. We just happened to be out shopping and thought we would stop again because we loved our first experience, which was a Tuesday night...lol. It just seemed like it took forever to get our meals, but maybe it was just because we were looking forward to eating....lol.


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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:46:28 PM
So it was 30-40 minutes from the time you ordered and got your entrees? But in the mean time you got salad and wings? That actually seem fast! How quickly do you eat? If I'm going out to a nice dinner with several courses I expect it to last a few hours... I hate dining and dashing...




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Posted: 11/30/2012 11:56:26 PM
Well, we are kind of quick eaters...lol. Our dinners usually last about an hour if that. Usually if we are eating out we are in the middle of shopping or something, so we have something else to do or somewhere to go so we don't take too long.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 12:05:24 AM

So it was 30-40 minutes from the time you ordered and got your entrees? But in the mean time you got salad and wings? That actually seem fast!


I know!! That sounds like damn good service, especially considering the place is both new and crowded.

I hate it when the entrees are brought out before salads and apps are finished. We are in a RESTaurant, not a fast food joint.

Dh I and eat out a lot and if we ordered both apps and salads, we fully expect and enjoy spending at least one hour or maybe two in the restaurant. Just make sure our drinks don't run out.

Hope the server got a good tip!

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Posted: 12/1/2012 12:07:06 AM
I wouldn't have expected anything.

We went out last weekend and the wait for our food was pretty long, but not quite long enough to really be an issue. However our waitress was beside herself. She comped two of our four entrees. We were pretty surprised and it's not something that would have even been on our radar.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 12:16:41 AM
Definitely not a bad wait time. I think they handled things in a good manner.

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Posted: 12/1/2012 12:25:02 AM
Unless we told the server that we were in a rush or had a schedule to keep (maybe going to the movies or something), I wouldn't be upset in the least. I love having a chance to take my time in a restaurant, especially if you've got salads and appetizers to eat.

I wouldn't have expected anything to be removed from the bill.



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Posted: 12/1/2012 12:33:07 AM
I think your meal experience sounds lovely, to be honest. And that comes from someone who refuses to ever, EVER eat out on a weekend.

Around here, that's the average for a Tuesday or a Thursday. Friday - Sunday? Gawd. It takes an hour to just get sat at a table.

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Posted: 12/1/2012 12:40:57 AM
That sounds like a pretty normal wait for a table having apps, salads and entrées.

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Posted: 12/1/2012 12:42:20 AM
The only "annoying" part of the experience is what I would perceive to be a "lie" about the wait time to be seated.

Sometimes I think the hostess is trying to get rid of people by telling them the wait is super long. There's one place we frequented for awhile where one particular hostess would tell you "45 minutes". Then she'd disappear, and our name would be called after 5 minutes.

I understand under-promising and over-producing, but that's ridiculous. And it wasn't just once either. I think she just wanted people to go away.

Oh, and while she was telling us "45 minutes" we could see half a dozen empty tables directly behind her. Hmmmm...




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Posted: 12/1/2012 2:06:12 AM
I'm in the minority, you think she'd have offered you a dessert or something. Especially because you were asking about your food, and that indicates you were concerned/unhappy. If you didn't want dessert, your app would at least get comped. $10 is worth eating for the restaurant in order for you to return and keep spending more $$$, and for you to not badmouth them. Especially since they are new!


We are in a RESTaurant, not a fast food joint.


You're also not camping (aka staying in a table so long I may as well grab you a sleeping bag) .... or in a Starbucks. Eat, but once you're done chowing down, it's time for the next table to be sat. ESPECIALLY on a weekend night! That or you pay for your real estate (IE: tip double or triple if you stay for 2 or 3 hours...aka what your server could have made had you decided not to set up shop in their section).

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Posted: 12/1/2012 6:56:25 AM

Do you think the restaurant should have offered anything as an apology for the wait?

The waitress was apologetic, explained the situation, she provided good service, you got your salad promptly and you had wings to eat while waiting on your entree, which you enjoyed. Plus it was 8:30 on a Friday night, a busy time for restaurants . . .

So no.... I don't feel like you were due any more than that. I wouldn't expect a discount or compensation of any kind.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 7:00:55 AM
I didn't read the other replies but after reading your post I thought...that seems like a great restaurant.

We're you in a hurry? I hate being rushed through a meal. It seems like you got your salad, then appetizer, then meal. You were able to finish one course before the rushed the next to you.

I would definitely go back.
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Posted: 12/1/2012 7:04:16 AM
I think your service was excellent.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 7:09:42 AM

I think your experience sounds very typical for a full restaurant. It would seem that people have become so accustomed to fast food that we've forgotten what it means to "dine." It actually sounds like a rather pleasant evening.

Certainly no compensation was required, in my opinion.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 7:17:29 AM
We have been offered free drinks when we have have had to wait in the situation you describe: the fact they kept mentioning the private party was an indication that THEY thought their service was too slow,so a free ( alcoholic!) drink wouldn't have gone amiss with me in that situation!


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Posted: 12/1/2012 7:24:51 AM
They don't owe you anything. When you go out to eat, waiting is part of the game. We're usually a party of six and just getting seated is a challenge. That's the reason, we rarely eat out.

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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:17:23 AM
Another one who thinks they didn't owe you anything. I probably wouldn't go back on a weekend!



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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:26:01 AM
If anything the waitress needed a really good tip. She handled the situation very well.
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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:34:27 AM
For a busy night with a big party, that seems pretty normal to me. I love some "wait time" between apps, salad, and entrees.

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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:43:01 AM
Having owned a good sized restaurant for several years, we would not have offered it. If customer was upset maybe but you did not sound upset.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:45:35 AM
It sounds like a reasonable time for a night out. I wouldn't expect anything.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 9:22:30 AM
No...I've waited that long for my entree and you did have drinks, salad and an appetizer. Plus, your waitress let you knows about the issues.

ETA: it is the beginning of the holiday season so you are going to run into large parties. And who knows how demanding a larger party or really any guests might get?

If anything on a Friday night you need to understand its going to be busier than normal and suck it up.




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Posted: 12/1/2012 10:12:47 AM

Do you think the restaurant should have offered anything as an apology for the wait?

What do you all think?


I don't think they should have offered anything at all. What you experienced was quick for a Friday night and during the holiday season.

It would never occur to me to even think of expecting anything for what you experienced.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 10:31:38 AM
I'm another one who thinks you got good service--the waitress addressed your concerns when you asked--and brought out your food and drinks when they were ready. It's not like she was out back smoking a cigarette while your food was sitting around under the lamps.


It wasn't just a large party, it was a private party, looked like a Christmas Party. I think if you are going to be booking a private room that your kitchen should be able to handle the load without disrupting the service in the main dining room, no?


What is the kitchen supposed to do--order more ovens, grills, and fryers? There is only so much room in each one, and if you want to have your food prepared fresh, you might have to wait on a busy night.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 10:55:07 AM
The Only thing I see here coming from a catering standpoint is that they should have had adequate staff in the kitchen to handle the large party if the had adequate knowledge that they were coming in. The extra kitchen staff should have been exclusively for the large party.

Your service was great. She apologized for the wait and was efficient in serving you!!!

Hope you go back again....

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Posted: 12/1/2012 11:05:33 AM

We are in a RESTaurant, not a fast food joint.
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You're also not camping (aka staying in a table so long I may as well grab you a sleeping bag) .... or in a Starbucks. Eat, but once you're done chowing down, it's time for the next table to be sat. ESPECIALLY on a weekend night! That or you pay for your real estate (IE: tip double or triple if you stay for 2 or 3 hours...aka what your server could have made had you decided not to set up shop in their section).


You are ASSUMING (and you know what they say about assuming) people are waiting for our table. We don't go to restaurants where we are expected to "chow down" and are herded about like cattle carrying stupid red buzzers. (Except I do agree to go to Red Lobster once per year to appease dh ) Plus we tend to eat earlier before places get crowded.




It would seem that people have become so accustomed to fast food that we've forgotten what it means to "dine."


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Posted: 12/1/2012 11:06:06 AM

Our dinners usually last about an hour if that.


So... that sounds like the length of this meal?


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Posted: 12/1/2012 11:30:11 AM
That happens to us often at cheesecake factory and sometimes even at Rubys diner.
I find it irritating especially when the tables near is that were seated way after us get their meals 15 minutes before we do and we've only ordered salad

Honestly, if we've asked where our food was, mentioned the other tables getting theirs and nothing happens... I tip accordingly.
The manager should at least cone over and apologize. If he/she doesn't, o figure the waitress didn't tell and it's on her


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Posted: 12/1/2012 11:55:30 AM
Wow. There was nothing about your experience that sounded out of line to me. Nothing.

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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:17:22 PM
As long as your entrees were as you ordered and served hot, they don't owe you anything. We waited that long for the daily special at a local restaurant recently and the food was lukewarm when it came. We got lots of apologies but nothing else and we will not go back. It wasn't so much the wait but the nearly cold food. I have a thing about hot food being served hot.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:31:25 PM
The restaurant did not owe you anything.

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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:44:02 PM


I honestly can't believe you would even ask. DH recently ordered a large salad and a turkey burger to share and they gave us a regular burger. When I questioned it, there was barely an apology. The waitress saw they we had each eaten some and didn't even offer a new correct burger. Nope,didn't even comp the burger. That is bad service.

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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:51:00 PM

It wasn't just a large party, it was a private party, looked like a Christmas Party. I think if you are going to be booking a private room that your kitchen should be able to handle the load without disrupting the service in the main dining room, no?



You said this is a fairly new restaurant. Perhaps this is the first time these cooks and servers have been under the pressure of a private party and regular diners on a weekend night? It's hard to know. I think your server did a great job. She let you know about the party early enough that you could have cancelled your entrees if you wanted to.

As a parent of young girls, I'd be overjoyed for a long dinner!! That means a longer date night without my kids.



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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:59:54 PM
Another in the camp - they don't owe you anything.

Honestly, if you ordered your meal when you got your appetizer and cocktail, then had a salad, if the entree came any sooner I would have felt they were rushing things.
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