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Posted: 12/1/2012 3:14:36 PM
chalk?

We're watching a tivo'd ep of Judge Judy. I think these people are from Georgia and they keep talking about chalk. All four people are pronouncing it "chawLk". The "L" sound is very pronounced.

We pronounce it with the "L" silent. Same as the word chock. Sounds like "chawk". I've never heard anyone pronounce the "L". Curious.

How do you pronounce it?



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Posted: 12/1/2012 3:17:32 PM
Chawk.

And probably a lot like Judge Judy says it with a pronounced New York accent.



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Posted: 12/1/2012 3:18:58 PM
Chawk

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Posted: 12/1/2012 3:19:52 PM
Chawk! And I love me some Judge Judy!!!




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Posted: 12/1/2012 3:20:59 PM
Chawk

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Posted: 12/1/2012 3:37:56 PM
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Posted: 12/1/2012 3:40:49 PM
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Posted: 12/1/2012 4:47:44 PM
chawLk .... just like "walk" and talk.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 4:56:40 PM
I think I say chawk, maybe a light L sound in there sometimes.

However, I do not pronounce chock that way at all. Chock is more like chahck.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 4:59:07 PM
To rhyme with walk and talk.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:03:38 PM
Like walk.

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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:11:00 PM

To rhyme with walk and talk.


Same. Also rhymes with hawk, but not rock.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:34:30 PM

chawLk .... just like "walk" and talk.


So you pronounce the "L" sound in walk and talk too?



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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:39:23 PM

chawLk .... just like "walk" and talk.
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So you pronounce the "L" sound in walk and talk too?


I was wondering as well. I just say "wok" and "tok." (yes, that looks weird, typed out! But there's no "l" in my pronunciation.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:42:04 PM

So you pronounce the "L" sound in walk and talk too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes
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doesn't everyone?

Rock and hawk rhyme. Chalk does not rhyme with either one of them.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:42:15 PM

Same. Also rhymes with hawk, but not rock.


These are all the same to me! How do you say rock?




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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:43:54 PM

So you pronounce the "L" sound in walk and talk too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes
::: puzzled why you ask.. :::

doesn't everyone?



Nope!

They sound like, chawk, wawk, tawk, rawk.

And also jawhawk.



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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:44:18 PM
chawLk-- like walk.


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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:45:46 PM

These are all the same to me! How do you say rock?



I'm not the person you asked that, but I say them differently.

For me, chalk is "chawk" and rock is "rahk."



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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:46:49 PM
Rock, hawk, chalk all rhyme. The rest of you are wrong


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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:52:23 PM

So you pronounce the "L" sound in walk and talk too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes
::: puzzled why you ask.. :::

doesn't everyone?

No! I've never heard anyone pronounce the L in chalk, walk or talk. Interesting!





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Posted: 12/1/2012 5:58:23 PM
chawk. Like rock.



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Posted: 12/1/2012 6:11:51 PM
Never have I said Rock and hawk to rhyme . Chalk is said with a slightly less pronounced L than Walk and talk. The L has to be in Walk and Talk, but in Chalk it could sound slightly like CHaw-lK


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Posted: 12/1/2012 6:27:19 PM

Chalk is said with a slightly less pronounced L than Walk and talk.
Around here (central Ca.) there's no L pronounced in walk or talk. wok tok


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Posted: 12/1/2012 7:09:42 PM
I have never, ever heard an "L" in chalk, walk or talk. With all the US television we watch I would think I should have heard it by now. Chalk rhymes with rock, sock, lock.

weird.

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Posted: 12/1/2012 7:21:16 PM

So you pronounce the "L" sound in walk and talk too?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes
::: puzzled why you ask.. :::

doesn't everyone?

No! I've never heard anyone pronounce the L in chalk, walk or talk. Interesting!


I've also never known anyone to pronounce the 'L' in "walk" or "talk" and I am really surprised to hear that some people do!

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Posted: 12/1/2012 7:39:12 PM
chawLk (I am from Georgia)


So you pronounce the "L" sound in walk and talk too?

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Posted: 12/1/2012 7:52:06 PM
Another chawker who also doesn't pronounce the L in talk or walk.

Do you pronounce the L in salmon or almond? I don't in salmon, but do in almond. Growing up in CA, the almond growers didn't pronounce the L they said "amond".


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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:02:13 PM
Chawk, rhymes with rock. Never heard talk or walk with the 'L' pronounced. I don't think I can even say it that way.

I do say almond, with the 'L' and salmon I say with out the 'L' .

I'm in the PNW.

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Posted: 12/1/2012 8:08:32 PM
I had to say "chalk" out loud...chawk. Who knew?

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Posted: 12/1/2012 10:35:32 PM
Well no-one is going to understand us Australians that's for sure!

Rock - roc, rhymes with sock, lock,never in a million yrs would it rhyme with hawk
Chalk - chawk, rhymes with walk, talk, hawk

Most definitely silent L's here. I'm really curious how you say walk and talk with an L sound. Is it a particular dialect or locality thing?
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Posted: 12/1/2012 10:44:11 PM
Wow.

I've never heard any of these words pronounced without the Ls I think that would bother me. A lot.

Walk sounds like wall plus a k at the end. WaLk.
Talk sounds like tall plus a k at the end taLk.
Chalk rhymes with walk and talk.

The people in the OP were from Georgia and I'm from Texas, so maybe this is a north/south thing?

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Posted: 12/2/2012 12:23:59 AM
Well I'm from Texas, and I've never heard anyone pronounce the L in walk or talk. I think I would cringe if I heard someone pronounce it that way.

Chalk rhymes with hawk in my world.

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Posted: 12/2/2012 12:56:22 AM
I'm from Texas and I pronounce the L in chalk, walk and talk.


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Posted: 12/2/2012 1:24:22 AM
very interesting.. I would think since some pronounce it (chaLK, WaLLK, TaLLk) .. sounds British to me.

I'm from California and say chock,wok,tak,hok, ..
So what about those of you who use the l's how do you saw:

stalk or stalker .. I could never imagine hearing someone say "stall-ker"

so you say - wall-ker, wall-ing, wall-ked, etc?
That's hard for me to say




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Posted: 12/2/2012 2:52:23 AM
chalk = chock

walk = wok
talk = tok
hawk = hok
stalk = stock
rock
flock

They all rhyme.

There might, at times, be a slight inflection but the 'L' is never fully pronounced. It would be like wa(l)k rather than wok - the 'l' isn't pronounced, but kind of breathed - subtle, as the 'b' in lamb and dumb.

I also say 'samin' for salmon, but I do pronounce the 'L' in almond.




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Posted: 12/2/2012 3:08:53 AM

Well no-one is going to understand us Australians that's for sure!

Rock - roc, rhymes with sock, lock,never in a million yrs would it rhyme with hawk
Chalk - chawk, rhymes with walk, talk, hawk




Make that ditto for the Brits



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Posted: 12/2/2012 3:53:02 AM
Stalker is pronounces Stall-ker. It is someone who is following/spying on another.

Stocker (no L) is someone who puts merchandise on the shelves at a store.

They are not pronounced the same.


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Posted: 12/2/2012 5:08:28 AM
Nope! Chalk, choc, rock, hawk, lock, talk,walk,mock all rhyme in my world! Can't imagine going for a wall-k or telling someone we need to tall-k.

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Posted: 12/2/2012 6:03:48 AM
Chawk, which rhymes with talk/tawk and walk/wawk.


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Posted: 12/2/2012 6:31:13 AM
The L in chalk, walk, talk and stalker (and salmon, almond, etc.) are ALL silent. You can not enunciate a silent L.

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Posted: 12/2/2012 8:45:14 PM
Rock Chock Wok Rok here too.
And I pronounce the L in almond?! I am confused on that one being silent?
No matter if you say Al-mund or All-mund the L is there. I know Salmon is silent but cannot pronounce Almond without an L. Impossible.


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Posted: 12/2/2012 9:08:38 PM

Stall-ker. It is someone who is following/spying on another.


Well here's how I pronounce it.

stalker

I can't find a dictionary that shows a different pronunciation. Do your local television news anchors, etc., pronounce the L? Maybe we can find a clip.





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Posted: 12/2/2012 9:17:34 PM
Yeah, but why were they talking about chalk on Judge Judy?!?

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Posted: 12/2/2012 9:24:32 PM
Hee hee...yes, I'm curious about why chalk is a legal matter, too!

I wonder why it's so common to not pronounce the L? I can't think of any "silent L" phonics rules, and I can't think of any other words besides salmon where it's not pronounced. I'm guessing this is a regional thing. Here in the South, chalk, walk and talk all rhyme and all have the L pronounced. Hawk does NOT rhyme with any of them or with rock, which rhymes with sock, clock, etc.


Huh. Interesting.


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Posted: 12/2/2012 9:33:23 PM
Hmmm... I think that because in American English we pronounce many (not all) L's just by raising the back of our tongue (as opposed to Italian/Spanish speakers who alwyas say L with the tip of the tongue), there's confusion over whether the closed sound is a vowel color or an actual consonant.

Any speech/dialect professionals want to chime in?

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Posted: 12/2/2012 9:39:31 PM
Well Texas is a pretty big state, and I haven't been to all of it, so apparently in parts of it people pronounce the L in walk and talk, but not in Houston or Austin or San Antonio, that I've ever heard.

I'm actually surprised to hear that anyone pronounces the L in those words. I've literally never heard anyone do that, even in all my travels. Huh. And I don't think any reputable dictionary would list that as a proper pronunciation, either. You learn something new every day!

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Posted: 12/2/2012 9:42:01 PM

And I pronounce the L in almond?! I am confused on that one being silent?
No matter if you say Al-mund or All-mund the L is there. I know Salmon is silent but cannot pronounce Almond without an L. Impossible.


Ah-mond. I don't pronounce the L in any of these words. Almond is the only one that I have ever even heard it pronounced in. I am in PA.

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Posted: 12/2/2012 9:47:19 PM

I think I would cringe if I heard someone pronounce it that way.



Go ahead and cringe. A Texan here who pronounces the L in chalk, talk & walk. The only people I hear that don't (chawk, etc) tend to be from the North.


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Posted: 12/2/2012 9:57:32 PM

Yeah, but why were they talking about chalk on Judge Judy?!?


Heh.

I wasn't paying that much attention, but I think it was a renter/landlord case. The lady's kids had colored all over one of the doors in the house.

The landlord claimed the kids had CARVED in the door.

The renter claimed her kids had just written in chaLk on the door and it washed right off.

There were photos, but you couldn't tell from the pix if it was chaLk or carving.

She kept saying chaLk chaLk chaLk over and over. That's what caught my attention.

Also, I pronounce it AWL-mond.

My friends in California all say ah-mond though.


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