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Posted 12/5/2012 by angievp in NSBR Board
 

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Posted: 12/5/2012 3:55:23 AM
Do you think ALL sellers such as on ebay and etsy should disclose whether an item comes from a smoke free environment in their listing.

The reason I ask is that I"ve noticed a lot of sellers on Etsy do not list this information. I mean, isn't it something that you would put regardless of what you sell? Who would like to give a gift that smells like smoke or buy something that smells like smoke? I just saw a fleece blanket that's exactly what I was looking for (for a child's gift) and the seller had over 200 positive reviews--none of the reviews noted that the items didn't come from a smoke free environment, which shocks me. I always confirm with the seller, regardless of the item. (she responded that they do not come from a smoke free environment).

If you are a seller, do you feel you need to disclose this information, or do you only disclose if it's asked?

As a buyer,do you even care? Do you always ask? Or do you just focus on getting the item?

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Posted: 12/5/2012 4:30:40 AM
I would not buy anything unless I knew it came from a smoke-free environment. I'm sure I am not the only one. I think it would be to their advantage to list whether it is from a smoke-free environment.


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Posted: 12/5/2012 4:57:46 AM
I get that you wouldn't want to give or receive a gift that smells like smoke (neither would I). But I would expect a seller to only note the environment if they considered it a "plus" in selling the item. To advertise that they are NOT a smoke free environment would deter customers looking for a product from a smoke-free environment.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 5:08:13 AM
I agree with Betsy. If they don't say it, I don't buy it.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 5:14:39 AM
When I used to buy a lot of children's clothes, I always asked (once bitten!). I don't ask so much now as I rarely ever buy clothes.

But I am seller and notes that it is a nonsmoking household are in my auction regardless of what I am selling.

I think people just don't think.


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Posted: 12/5/2012 5:29:01 AM
I would ask (if it wasn't mentioned) for some items that smoke would affect but not necessarily for everything.



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Posted: 12/5/2012 5:52:15 AM
when i sell i always state that it comes from a smoke free home. I agree that i wouldnt buy from someone that didnt state this in their auction.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 6:03:44 AM
I wish it was required! I don't always think to ask, and ordered a 3DS off eBay that smelled nasty. I resold it (with full disclosure about the smoke smell) and bought another one. That smell gets into everything!!!


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Posted: 12/5/2012 6:20:16 AM

I get that you wouldn't want to give or receive a gift that smells like smoke (neither would I). But I would expect a seller to only note the environment if they considered it a "plus" in selling the item. To advertise that they are NOT a smoke free environment would deter customers looking for a product from a smoke-free environment.




I was going to order a fleece blanket for a child. I would have thought that this was an absolutely relevant thing to indicate in your listing, since A) it's for a kid and it's fabric.

I have ordered other fabric items (custom blankets) and in one, the seller didn't mention it in the listing but later clarified it when I asked and the second seller noted it in her listing.

I just would think that to not note it and you are selling stuff for kids is sort of not cool at all.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 6:25:55 AM
I almost always mention that my items are coming from a smoke-free home.

I typically look for that in other auctions.

I imagine that a smoker would opt to not say anything rather than to point out that they are a smoker, kwim?


But I also imagine that some sellers are either new, or just never thought about it, and therefore don't mention it, even though I see it as a "pro" for your listing.

I have and will ask the seller if their home is smoke-free if they do not mention it in the listing.

About 15 years ago, when I was new to ebay, I bought a CD that smelled so strongly of smoke for so long that I eventually got rid of it.

That was my lesson. Now I ask.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 6:40:30 AM
I email the seller and ask if anyone who made the item smokes, because quite frankly I don't care if they smoke outside and then come in an use their disgusting smelling fingers to work on the items, and have their disgusting smelling clothing touching the items, they are stilll going to stink.

Smoke-free home just means they do not smoke inside. I found that out the hard way when I ordered some handmade lace and it REEKED when it arrived. But it had been in constant contact with those stinky fingers.



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Posted: 12/5/2012 7:05:36 AM
Also, many sellers buy from estate sales & such and then resell the item, both on ebay, and in the "vintage" or "supply" section of Etsy.

In those cases, although their own home may be smoke-free, they either do not know the status of the original home, or they think it might have been a smoking home, and therefore they do not mention it in their listing.

Other times you will see something like "Although I list items in my smoke-free home, the items themselves are from estates and therefore I cannot guarantee if they have always been kept in a smoke-free environment.".


As someone who has both allergies and asthma, I can smell cigarette smoke from quite the distance, so if I buy something to resell, I can tell right away if there is smoking in the house.

Often, I can tell as soon as I hit the garage if someone has been smoking in the home. So I simply avoid any item with even the tiniest hint of a smoke smell to it.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:06:03 AM
If it's not listed as coming from a smoke free environment, I send them a little note and ask. Not that hard. Most are willing to answer. If they don't answer, I for sure don't buy. If they do answer and the answer is no, I don't buy either, but I thank them for their time.



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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:48:50 AM
I would want to know and won't buy soft goods unless the seller states it's never been around smoke. If they don't say it will be smoke residue free, I assume they are smokers.

I once bought greeting cards from a smoker and never could use them. Years later they still reeked.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:55:51 AM
When I sold on eBay, I always listed as smoke free/pet free home. When I buy items that can retain smells, I look for the same as I have asthma and am allergic to dogs.

When I buy crystal, I'm less concerned unless it's a gift because packaging keeps the smells.





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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:57:06 AM
I think many people who don't smoke just don't think about it unless they had a negative experience like some of you did. And smokers obviously don't want to lose the sale.




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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:57:16 AM

If they don't say it will be smoke residue free, I assume they are smokers.
That's what I figured as well.

The alternative descriptor would be "Items might smell like smoke." and who is going to volunteer that?

I'd like to know if items were in a cat-free environment! That's where my allergies are likely to cause issues for me.

Do I always ask? If it's washable and I really want it, I'd buy it without asking. I am around my mom and her home so much, cig smoke isn't a deal breaker for me.







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Posted: 12/5/2012 9:01:08 AM
I haven't ever sold anything on ebay but if I were going to I would definitely list it because I would think for some people it would be a selling point.

That said, depending what I was buying I maybe wouldn't worry about it. For example, if I was buying something that goes outdoors, or something that is washable (like something made of glass) then I wouldn't probably worry about it since it would be outside or could be cleaned up.

The only things I remember buying on ebay have been ornaments and stamping supplies, both of which I make sure they come from a smoke free home because the materials to make those things (paper, wood, rubber, plastic, etc.) can become discolored, are not washable, and are porous and absorb the smell. Typically when I'm buying it's either listed or there is another one in the same price range that says it's smoke free and I go for that listing instead.

I would add it, if it were me, because it won't hurt anything but it might help.


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Posted: 12/5/2012 9:06:41 AM

As a buyer,do you even care? Do you always ask? Or do you just focus on getting the item?


I've never really thought about it. I notice if it's there, but don't notice if it's not.

I have never asked because I don't smoke and don't think about asking.


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Posted: 12/5/2012 12:20:58 PM
i recently purchased some stuff on the FB scrapbook market board and got papers that reeked heavily of smoke. i had to throw all the paper out but at least the non paper items didn't hold the smoke smell so the purchase wasn't a total bust. shame on me for not asking but who sits in their scrapbook room and smokes????

another time i bought something on ebay and it smelled of smoke. i called the seller on it and she claimed that the smoke smell probably came from the post office or the mailman's truck. how could i prove otherwise? but now that i've been burned twice, i do care where my items come from and will ask from now on.

as an etsy seller, all my items come from a smoke free home. i don't have that posted anywhere and no one has ever asked me. i would happily answer if anyone asked.



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Posted: 12/5/2012 12:43:45 PM
I ask the seller.



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Posted: 12/5/2012 9:27:37 PM
Had a friend who owned a craft consignment store. She only smoked in the back room but several vendors and customers complained. Some smokers just don't get it. She now doesn't smoke and really complains about people in stores who smell of smoke. I am ok with fresh outdoor smoke but stale smoke is nauseating. I am the same with scents. I can get instant nausea and headache. I loved the merchandise in a scrapbook store close to me,well 40 miles, but that's close enough. This woman used some sort of scent in there and after a couple trips there I could not go back. I have had to trash what I bought there because the smell just would not go away.
I have one friend that is forever trying new perfumes. I don't go in her vehicle even though we have a great time together. She finally stopped trying out new smells on me after I said..if I throw up on you, don't take offense, but what part of I like some smells but they don't like me do you not understand. I really do like some smells, but I still get sick. Sorry.
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