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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:06:14 AM
Would you say anything about it?

I was all of 20 - was going through some awful times and completely stressed out at my job - a really GOOD job - but my boss kept piling work on, and instead of doing the mature thing - I just walked out, never called - HR called me later and we put in work for me to quit -

Flash to 25+ years later and a friend says they are hiring - really good company with benefits - I was a fool for quitting back then and shoot myself in the foot every day - well not EVERY day but a good majority of the time -

How would you handle this - my name is different, I've had career change since then, I don't know how far back they go -

Just say nothing about working there before?

I was planning on saying nothing and if it is brought up say it was a huge regret and I was too immature to handle the responsibility - I'm 25 years older now and a parent 2x over and have more than made up for that in responsibility -

Just wondering - what would you do? There's the ethical me and then the "there's no reason to bring it up" part of me -

I guess I know what the RIGHT thing to do is - I just don't know what or how I would handle the interview - well I probably wouldn't get one anyway with that on my record but say for grins and giggles I DID get one - ?



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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:11:08 AM
My company wouldn't have HR records to check back that far, but there are many people who are still here from that long ago, and someone would probably remember you. Not sure how to advise you to handle it, just giving you my perspective on the "risk of recognition".

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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:11:15 AM
I think honesty is the best policy.

Imagine if you are able to hide the previous experience, and it comes out after you've started working there - what a mess, and you'd probably lose the job.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:11:58 AM
Always err on the side of honesty and integrity.

I really am not sure how Id bring it up but I think you do need to be honest about your past with the company.

Your name and career path may have changed but your social security number hasn't. If the company would do some checking in terms of previous employment with them and found that you had worked there but weren't honest about it they wouldn't hire you. In the event they did hire you and later found out about your past there would they then let you go? Even if they didn't let you go you would be known as dishonest.

I think you need to tell them.



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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:20:41 AM
I wouldn't bring it up unless it's asked. If they ask (usually on an application), you can say honestly that you worked there 25 years ago and what your position was.
If they asked why you left, I would just say because the workload was too heavy for you at that point in your life. I wouldn't bring up the no notice part unless they ask.
I doubt they'll have records that long.

I worked in a newspaper 25 years ago, and I couldn't tell you who quit or who walked out then. I'm sure people did but I have no idea who did. I know for sure there's no HR records that's going to go back that far. You're sweating over nothing really.


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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:27:50 AM
I would probably bet too that they do no have records back that far. Don't mention it. Is it on your resume?

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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:34:32 AM
I wouldn't mention it and not have it on your resume. Your name is different, different people are there, years have past. But maybe just maybe someone remembered you, they wouldn't be the person interviewing you, just someone you'd run into in the hallway weeks after being hired.




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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:38:35 AM
I wouldn't want it lurking over my shoulder, ready to do me in at the worst possible moment. I would call their HR and ask if my prior action would prevent me from being hired at this time.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:41:24 AM
I would be very surprised if they do not ask on their application if you have ever worked for the company before and if you ended up with an official 'quit' via HR, then that is what I would put.

As long as you were eligible to be rehired at that time, I would leave it at that.



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Posted: 12/5/2012 9:25:21 AM
I used to work for American Airlines in the department that trained the flight attendants. At the time while going through training you were not an employee but once you passed it you became one. They put the social security number of one of the ladies into the system and found out she was a former employee. There was a spot on the application that asked if you had ever worked for the company before and she marked no. Someone from HR meet her at the airport she was assigned to and fired her.

Moral of the story don't lie on the job application. And if it's not asked let them know you used to work for the company. Either they don't hire you for past actions or they find out later and fire you.


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Posted: 12/5/2012 9:37:21 AM
I left a company 22 years ago because I was accused of something that another (higher up) employee did. I tried to defend myself, but I was the lowest on the totem pole and her word carried much more weight than mine. I gave my notice and worked until the two weeks were up.

20 years later, a friend told me of a job opening there that would have been perfect for me. It was the same type of job I had before, but with much better working conditions. I applied and was told that my file was marked "ineligible for rehire."

So don't count on them not keeping files. In this day of computer storage, files are kept much longer than they were when everything was on paper.


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Posted: 12/5/2012 9:40:42 AM

Always err on the side of honesty and integrity.


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Posted: 12/5/2012 10:52:17 AM
your file was ghost 7-10 years after you quit.

I say apply if you feel that strongly about it Besides, you are a different person now than you were in your 20's

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Posted: 12/5/2012 11:10:46 AM

I vote for acknowledging that you worked for the company under _____ name from <startdate> to <terminationdate> and you voluntarily resigned. The drama of walking out without notice is irrelevant at this point. The truth is, you worked there, your name was whatever it was, and you resigned voluntarily. That can be verified if they have the HR records (which they may very well have the barebones records of start and end date and how you OFFICIALLY left. The very smartest thing you did back then was to process paperwork for a voluntary termination record. If they marked it "do not rehire" and they care enough about such things to keep it forever available for review, there is nothing you can do, and you won't know that until you apply.

How do you bring it up? Leave it off the resume - good resumes don't go back that far anyhow. Hopefully it asks on the application, and if they ask you about it, tell them you were young, inexperienced, the work load was too heavy for the training you had and you resigned to go look for a job that was more suited to your skills. Leave off any details about your personal problems with the boss or outside of work. Unless you were fighting cancer or something, it's never a good idea to hint that when your personal life gets overwhelming (as it's bound to do for the best employee) you implode and leave.

If they don't ask you, just say "I don't know how long you keep employment records, but I want to disclose that I worked for this company briefly 25 years ago and resigned voluntarily."

You can add that you regret leaving, because you realize it is a good company to work for and you hope that you can put the skills and experience acquired in the past 25 years to work in order to be an asset to the company and blah blah blah.




I think this is the best response! Good luck! I'm sure no one remembers, but I'd cover myself just to make sure.








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Posted: 12/5/2012 11:12:08 AM
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Posted: 12/5/2012 11:31:23 AM
I would be truthful but I would not volunteer information that is not asked for. If the application asks about working there previously, I would leave it as the dates you worked there and that you resigned. If you area asked why you resigned, I would say it was for other opportunities. Unless you are interviewing with the CIA, if the records show that you resigned, does a potential hiring manager really care for any more details than that for something that happened over 25 years ago? The hiring manager should be able to verify your dates of employment and that you resigned rather than you were fired for cause.





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Posted: 12/5/2012 12:37:59 PM
The application might have a separate question asking specifically if you have worked for that company before.

I would be honest and mention it. Your name is different but your SSN is not.


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Posted: 12/5/2012 12:45:05 PM
your name may be different but I don't think your SSN is so if they ask I would certainly not lie. If they don't ask on the app or during the interview I would assume it's not an issue and I would not bring it up.


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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:26:03 PM
I would not lie about that info or leave it out on purpose.
But do you realize that, although there might be info around about you working there, the info about how you quit is not? Even if there are people still around...so what?
Everybody makes mistakes and I would just let it go. But never lie/cheat!


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Posted: 10/17/2013 9:21:23 AM
Wow, you posted about this today, 10/17/2013 and also posted about it last December!!! What happened? Did you not apply last year?

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Posted: 10/17/2013 11:38:32 AM
This appears to be an old thread that was bumped. Is there an update?

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Posted: 10/17/2013 11:42:49 AM
Wondering about this bumped post and also
where in the heck did Night Owl Scrapper and her post go????


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Posted: 10/17/2013 12:11:20 PM
Nevermind I see the new post with almost the identical question except now its 26+ years ago...

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