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I hope that the other father robbed of his baby, Mr. Wyatt, will get some publicity and be able to get his baby back too.
I agree that the laws in Utah need to be changed. Father's rights need to be protected, married or not. |
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melanell
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Wow, that's cruel of the wife.
The father should be given the baby back.
How in the world did this drag on until the little girl was 21 months old? That would be so hard for all the parties involved!
Ditto to all of this.
It is so completely insane that this has gone for so long. It is cruel to all involved, including this poor little girl, to have this going on and on like this. | |
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This reminds me of a similar case here in Illinois quite a few years ago. The baby Richard case.
The laws in Illinois were changed because of it. I believe it was in the 1990's...because we adopted our child shortly after that. any family and friends were worried for us in that the same thing may happen. A birthfather may come back to claim a child.
The law now states that if a man has "relations" with a woman, he has 60 days after the baby is born to make a claim...if not, his rights are terminated.
The agengy is SO at fault here as well as any lawyers who are involved. The birthmother is also at fault.
I agree that the birthfather should indeed get his child back.
I also think the child should be able to transition slowly to his biodad. |
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| Posted: 12/5/2012 8:15:04 PM
And the biological mother should then have to pay child support.
Well, she signed away her parental rights, so I doubt he can get a dime out of her for that. On the plus side, I also doubt she has any visitation rights either, for the same reason. So there will be a child that she gave birth to, living with her ex, that she has absolutely no rights to visit, and that could make for an interesting bargaining chip. Great plan, lady. That worked out swimmingly, didn't it?
Now a judgment for her to pay his attorney fees is in order, which likely will offset his required child support payment for the kid she still has. He probably should go for sole custody of that one as well, after the crap she pulled. |
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There is a guy here in Colorado who filed BEFORE the mother traveled to Utah to give birth and then gave the baby to her sister for aduption. I don't know the outcome of the case, but I know that it was sent back to the courts.
It is NOT okay to have things like this happen. The woman is not the only one with rights once that baby it born. BOTH parents should have to give their child up for adoption. A woman can decide to keep a child even if the father does not want to, a father should have the same right. |
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Well, she signed away her parental rights, so I doubt he can get a dime out of her for that. On the plus side, I also doubt she has any visitation rights either, for the same reason.
I do not believe that someone should be able to 'sign away their parental rights' if their child's other biological parent wishes to keep and raise their child.
Men cannot just sign away their parental rights if a woman decides to keep a child. He is responsible for child support whether or not he wanted the child and whether or not he chooses to be part of the child's life.
I do not think that women should be able to either in a situation like this. |
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What a total mindfcuk for the little girl and her siblings. Can you imagine growing up with that? The father should sue the birth mom, adoptive parents, adoptive agency and the state to cover the cost of his legal fees and all the therapy this little one could need. So, so wrong.
I also think that child protective services should be looking into these adoptive parents to determine if they are fit to care for their other children. They have demonstrated that they place their own needs before that of their "child" to her detriment. | |
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| Posted: 12/5/2012 8:39:43 PM
I know the baby is bonded to adoptive parents but that doesn't make them any less shady. I think they should set up a few supervised visits with dad and then let the baby go with him. If dad is so inclined he can allow some contact with adoptive patents but that's up to him. It's his kid. |
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This whole thing is just so, so sad. I cannot believe fathers aren't seen as equal to mothers in adoptions.
I'm absolutely astonished stuff like this is happening in the United States in this day and age. |
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And the biological mother should then have to pay child support.
Just as it works in the case of a biological mother, so should it work in the case of a biological father. Unless there is some reason that a man is deemed 'unfit' to raise a child and his parental rights are severed in court, whether or not he is married to the child's biological mother should not even matter.
Absolutely! And like heartcat also pointed out, men who don't want to become dads don't get to sign away parental rights if the mother wants to keep and raise the child. For a society that claims we are all about equality for women I find it ridiculous that we don't have the same expectations of biological moms that we hold fathers to or offer the same means of supporting single dads the way we provide support for single moms. | |
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I dont know if he is still in the military..But I surely hope if he is that he is not deployed somewhere and the baby has to go to another home to live. I did not see anything but I hope that he has a stable home life with lots of support if he is a single Dad |
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| Posted: 12/5/2012 9:26:05 PM
Also wanted to add that although I feel that this particular family (who probably are LDS based on the language they use on their blog) feels as though they are superior and will provide a superior home, that doesn't mean it is BECAUSE they are LDS or because "the LDS church thinks that way." It is because they are trying to use God to justify their immoral actions.
I'm sure if they were not LDS this particular family would find another means of justifying their actions.
The LDS church ranks families as very important, and although they promote family togetherness they do not discourage single parents. The church would certainly not condone this.
I could tell from the flowerly language on their blog that they were LDS as well. I also figured they were able to raise so much money from their blog for their case from their church friends. I mean I was shocked their blog showed they earned $30K already. I think it's a case of they belong to a ward, so they have a large community to draw from and of course people are going to take their side. |
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| Posted: 12/5/2012 10:04:13 PM
This reminds me of a case years ago between Iowa and Michigan. The adoptive family was in Michigan and the birth family in Iowa. The mom didn't inform the dad of the adoption but changed her mind fairly soon after and informed him he was the dad. It drug out for almost 3 years I think.
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| Posted: 12/5/2012 10:13:59 PM
I mean I was shocked their blog showed they earned $30K already. I think it's a case of they belong to a ward, so they have a large community to draw from and of course people are going to take their side.
I'm sure it is also a case of the family skewing the story to make the dad sound like a deadbeat who is an unfit parent.  Of course people will believe the family, who they know personally, over a stranger, even though it is really the stranger who is right. |
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asr70
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I mean I was shocked their blog showed they earned $30K already. I think it's a case of they belong to a ward, so they have a large community to draw from and of course people are going to take their side.
I'm sure it is also a case of the family skewing the story to make the dad sound like a deadbeat who is an unfit parent. Of course people will believe the family, who they know personally, over a stranger, even though it is really the stranger who is right.
This is why I wonder if people wish they hadn't donated. It's one thing to fight a villainous father who abandoned his wife - it's maybe another when you learn he was lied to. |
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snugglebutter
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| Posted: 12/5/2012 10:33:17 PM
I think it's a case of they belong to a ward, so they have a large community to draw from and of course people are going to take their side.
Personally if I were behaving so incredibly selfishly and children's lives were at stake - I hope to hell my community would call me on it!
That couple is in the wrong and if that woman were my sister, daughter or best friend I would tell them the same thing.
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That baby belongs with her father. Period. | |
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| Posted: 12/5/2012 10:57:23 PM
I do not believe that someone should be able to 'sign away their parental rights' if their child's other biological parent wishes to keep and raise their child.
While I see what you are saying, it may not work out quite that smoothly in the legal world. Setting aside the adoption may not reinstate her rights, depending on state law. In CA, if the same thing had happened, the process to reverse would have been separate court matters, because when mom signs away her rights, she assigns the rights to the child to the agency as if the child were a foster child and the agency has legal custody (sort of, I'm probably not explaining that precisely). Anyway, if the adoption doesn't happen, it doesn't automatically reinstate rights.
Of course, we're talking Utah, so who knows what will happen in bizarro adoption law land. Would be ironic, though, if she had to put up time and money to reverse what she did. What a despicable woman! |
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| Posted: 12/5/2012 11:40:21 PM
I think someone needs to direct our fine friends at 4Chan to the blog and the story and see how fast the angry hackers could take it down. It sounds like these people bought the baby and they feel that since they spent so much, they shouldn't have to give her back.
I'm less worried about the disruption of moving her back to her dad - than the possibility that those a-holes will be raising her. Wow. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 12:08:22 AM
Was there a link to the adoptive parents blog, that I missed?
Make no mistake, I am firmly in the dad's corner, just interested in reading the justifications. |
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Here is the link to the Frei's Family Adoption Blog:
Frei's Adoption Blog
I'm so very tired of the mindset that only a woman determines what happens with a baby, whether to carry it to term, adoption, and yes even abortion.
I think women who do this should be charged with a crime. I also think an adoptive family in this specific type of situation should be REQUIRED to return the baby immediately, at least within a certain time frame of the father finding out the baby exists. I also believe that an adoptive family who does not IMMEDIATELY return said baby should face criminal charges. Dragging it out is shitty.
It is not fair for an adoptive family to fight a birth father who wants his child when he didn't sign away his right. AT LEAST within a certain time frame. To drag it out is the most selfish thing they can do for that child. People form their emotional attachment within the first 24 months of their lives. Tampering with that can be, and has proven to be, detrimental to that person for the rest of their lives.
Shame on the birth mother. But more shame on the adoptive family.
And that's about as nice as I can be.
ETA: This story has been ticking me off all day! I find it curious that she went to Utah for an adoption agency/adoption, instead of remaining in Texas where she resided. Call me jaded, but I don't think that was by any accident.
And while I don't begrudge anyone all the children they want in the world, and wholeheartedly support adoption... this couple has 4 biological children and 1 other adopted child. This was not their very first baby, which I could almost excuse their tenacity to hold on to her. Surely they wouldn't want somebody to take one of their babies. 
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 1:04:32 AM
The father should raise his daughter.
He did not "abandon" his wife and child. When you get orders to move to a new base, in the States or out of, you can't just ignore them. You have to go where the military tells you to go.
I knew someone who broke it off with the father of her child (they were not married) after being together for years and living as a family because he got orders to the first Gulf war. She claimed he abandoned them. That did not fly with anyone. He paid his child support and even lived in an apartment in the same complex as them so he could see his daughter whenever he wanted to. He and the mother just weren't together anymore. |
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They (the adopted couple)are saying he left her without a car and knowledge of his whereabouts. He was DEPLOYED!!! They were acting quickly on the best interest of the child? Whether they're LDS or not it sounds like they saw an opportunity and took advantage over it. Bland the wife cut off all contact it him. She was probably sending all kinds of lies to adopted family so they think they are helping out a poor abandoned pregnant wife.
I hope he gets his poor kids back soon. The baby is young, I hope they can bond soon with each other. From reading the rest I don't think I have sympathy for the family. And definitely not the mother!! It was CRUEL!! |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 4:54:47 AM
There was a similar story here in the Chicago are in the 90's, baby Richard. The bio dad eventually got custody and the news crews were there filming the hand off. It was heart wrenching seeing this little boy crying and screaming while a virtual stranger was pulling him away from the only parents he ever knew. Legally it was prob the right thing, but something I will never forget | |
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Nancie52
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This is the case I remember, years ago,,
Baby Jessica
I remember it all over GMA, with Charlie Gibson..it was heart wrenching because the adoptive parents had the baby for a few years... she eventually was returned to the parents... but it was heartbreaking because Jessica was old enough to understand that she was being taken away from the only parent she knew
In this current case,, the baby should be returned to her dad... asap | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 7:11:00 AM
This case is so unsettling to me.
That baby belongs with her father...immediately. 60 more days to return her after having her for 21 months is outrageous. IMO, the adoptive family has proven themselves to be willing to break the law and I can only imagine wat tey will Coe up with in the next 60 days. They won't use that time to help transition the child, they will use it to prolong this reunion of father and daughter. | |
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cocoanmom
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The Bio Mom is giving an interview on ABC today. I just saw a promo on GMA. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 7:52:41 AM
Sooooo...
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I think someone needs to direct our fine friends at 4Chan to the blog and the story and see how fast the angry hackers could take it down.
That would be like covering your naked body with honey and roll around in angry bees 
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 10:44:44 AM
Sooooo...
How many Peas sent the adoptive parents an email??
I just did, to the address from their "Leah" blog. I didn't say anything nasty, just told them that what they are doing is wrong and they need to give that child to her father.
I hope more people do this, and hopefully they will see the error in their ways and give up the child. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 11:10:28 AM
Thanks, Nancie54 for that link. I was wracking my brain and could only come up with "Jessica", but my searches all came up with Jessica McClure in the well.
Interesting that as old as she was when she was returned to her biological parents, she doesn't remember the adoptive parents. I hope that information would be encouraging to Terry Achane, because somehow I'm skeptical that he won't get his daughter without some ugliness ahead, unfortunately. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 11:30:06 AM
Why is he such a bad person that the birth mother would rather struggle herself to raise her than have her go to her father?
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 11:35:45 AM
If a woman gives her baby up for adoption she's a selfless saint.
If she gives it up to the bio dad (which she really can't do so child support comes into play) she's generally seen as a sleezeball who abandoned her child.
That would explain the urge to circumvent the bio dad. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 11:43:16 AM
If a woman gives her baby up for adoption she's a selfless saint.
If she gives it up to the bio dad (which she really can't do so child support comes into play) she's generally seen as a sleezeball who abandoned her child.
That would explain the urge to circumvent the bio dad.
I dont' get this pov at all. The urge to circumvent the bio dad is apparently part of a marital dispute.
If a woman gives her baby up for adoption knowing that the father, her husband, is not in agreement, so she lies and keeps the father completely in the dark as she puts through a fraudulent adoption, she's a sleazeball. Nothing she did in this makes her look like a selfless saint. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 11:43:26 AM
Why is he such a bad person that the birth mother would rather struggle herself to raise her than have her go to her father?
that's just another indication of how selfish she is. no matter what, she doesn't want the father to have the baby. it's clearly out of spite. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 11:48:05 AM
I'd like to know why the Bio Mom is so against him having his daughter? Is it normal for people to leave their family behind in the military if you are re stationed? It just seems so weird to me. That he had to call around to find the bio mom in a prior story. So he left and then they had no contact at all?
I wonder if he had a home study? I hope that the child has a lawyer herself. Jut to represent her best interest.
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aprilfay21
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Is it normal for people to leave their family behind in the military if you are re stationed?
Yes, it's normal. Sometimes it takes a while to get the family moved with them and sometimes it's not possible for the family to go. In this case, I'm guessing since their marriage was rocky she refused to go with him and he didn't have a choice but to leave her. |
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snugglebutter
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 11:57:06 AM
I dont' get this pov at all. The urge to circumvent the bio dad is apparently part of a marital dispute.
If a woman gives her baby up for adoption knowing that the father, her husband, is not in agreement, so she lies and keeps the father completely in the dark as she puts through a fraudulent adoption, she's a sleazeball. Nothing she did in this makes her look like a selfless saint.
She didn't mean that this woman is a selfless saint - certainly not!
I'm pretty sure she was saying that the general idea of placing a baby for adoption is seen as a noble choice - compared to placing a baby in the full custody of her father and maybe TPR, which would typically get a lot of judgement and seen more as abandonment. |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 12:01:32 PM
I'm pretty sure she was saying that the general idea of placing a baby for adoption is seen as a noble choice - compared to placing a baby in the full custody of her father and maybe TPR, which would typically get a lot of judgement.
Okay, I get it. But I dont' think it explains her vindictive attitude toward her husband. I think it's the other way around - her vindictive attitude explains her deception. So, if she was going for mother of the year, she's exchanged that for selfish, immature b*tch. JMO
Something I noted in rereading the different articles - the other child she has is not his. It's from a 'previous relationship'. So he took on her and her child when they married. And she decided that not only did she not want his baby, he didn't deserve a chance to raise his own baby. Yet she's given no reason other than the 'abandonment' assertion. What a fascinating woman.  |
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that's just another indication of how selfish she is. no matter what, she doesn't want the father to have the baby. it's clearly out of spite.
That's how it reads to me too.
I saw that she had posted (on Facebook?) and then pulled down posts that the father was cheating on her. Like that somehow justifies what she did in adopting out his child. She just seems angry and vindictive.
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 12:57:25 PM
Something I noted in rereading the different articles - the other child she has is not his. It's from a 'previous relationship'. So he took on her and her child when they married. And she decided that not only did she not want his baby, he didn't deserve a chance to raise his own baby. Yet she's given no reason other than the 'abandonment' assertion. What a fascinating woman.
Reading the FB page some one posted earlier, the supposed father of the other child made some comments and said that while he and Terry don't get along (both bfs of birth mother - duh) he supports him in this because he has ongoing issues with her and her family over seeing / getting custody of his child or something. |
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MissBianca
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 12:59:08 PM
I dont know if he is still in the military..But I surely hope if he is that he is not deployed somewhere and the baby has to go to another home to live. I did not see anything but I hope that he has a stable home life with lots of support if he is a single Dad
He could likely get a general discharge. My friend was a Marine and 6 weeks after their second child was born, his wife was killed in a car accident. He was given a discharge because he was a single parent of 2. I don't know if he was given the option to discharge or if they gave him no choice though, I'd have to ask.
Is it normal for people to leave their family behind in the military if you are re stationed? It just seems so weird to me. That he had to call around to find the bio mom in a prior story. So he left and then they had no contact at all?
It is very normal to be left behind. DH's boat had orders from Hawaii to Washington State and they were told to leave all families behind in Hawaii because there was no available housing for us. Personally I would have gone back to CT where my family was instead of staying in HI without DH, but we were being discharged anyway so he already had separation orders from the boat by the time they left.
Being that the wife was pregnant and had another kid, it doesn't surprise me at all that she opted to stay behind where she allegedly had family, according to the second article. And they were supposedly having issues in the marriage.
It seems to me she did research on how to give up the baby without him finding out. And when she made to move to Utah, was when he lost contact with her. | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 1:07:48 PM
ETA: This story has been ticking me off all day! I find it curious that she went to Utah for an adoption agency/adoption, instead of remaining in Texas where she resided. Call me jaded, but I don't think that was by any accident.
Texas law is very cut and dry if you work with an agency. For example, with my son, wssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssshyu |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 1:10:01 PM
Texas law is very cut and dry if you work with an agency. For example, with my son, wssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssshyu
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 1:15:29 PM
(Sorry about the above, my kitten just jumped on the computer!)
The general process in Texas if you work with an agency is that the bio parents relinquish custody to the agency. The adoptive parents may (at the agency's discretion) take over as the child's conservator, but not actual legal guardians. Then, after at least 6 months, the adoptive parents bring (friendly) suit against the agency for full legal parental rights.
In my son's case, we did not have custody until he was about 6 weeks old because he was technically a questioned paternity. The bio mom provided signed releases from known possible bio fathers, and then legal notice was also placed in local papers, etc. for 40 days.
There would be no grounds to question the legality of the adoption, assuming all the rules were followed. Texas is considered one of the best states to adopt in because of having a set of very matter-of-fact rules. Therefore, it would make sense that she (bio mom of this awful story) would want to move to a place that does not set out the rules so clearly, allowing easy challenges to the adoption's legality.
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 1:21:38 PM
"On its website, the center claims to have facilitated about 1,400 successful adoptions since its founding in 1995. According to its corporate registration filing, it has done business under eight other names in the past, including A Heart of Gold Adoptions, An All American Adoption Agency, A Bridge Adoption Services and A Adoption with Love."
source Article from yesterday, linked from the Support Terry Achane Facebook page
also stated in the article on page 2, are the names of 5 other fathers who unsuccessfully attempted to get their children back from the same center.
These people are baby brokers. ETA: 8?!?!? 8 times they changed their name but are a "successful adoption agency" why on earth would you need to change your name 8 times if you were so darn popular???? | |
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 1:25:53 PM
Is it normal for people to leave their family behind in the military if you are re stationed? It just seems so weird to me. That he had to call around to find the bio mom in a prior story. So he left and then they had no contact at all?
Yes, when dh was transferred to Washington we stayed in Illinois until our housing was available. We also stayed in Illinois when he was in Mississippi while his ship was being built. We were apart for 18 months.
Any military wife knows how to get a hold of their dh - call their command. The command would not allow abandonment to happen, unless the military member was AWOL and they couldn't find them.
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| Posted: 12/6/2012 1:27:57 PM
Texas law is very cut and dry if you work with an agency. For example, with my son, wssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssshyu
I'm glad it was just your kitten. I was fearful you had a heart attack or something.
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