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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:04:47 PM

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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:09:35 PM
Um racist, no question. The signs are what do it.



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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:10:24 PM
The signs took it right into racist territory.




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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:11:52 PM
Very poor taste.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:12:19 PM
I agree about the signs taking it into racism.

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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:14:59 PM
Freakin' racist. And poor taste. And stupid as heck. I mean, really. It's the 21st century. Move forward, please.



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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:15:37 PM
I'm sure it's racist to some, but not to this Latina. But I also am not looking to be offended.

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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:16:03 PM
Well, that's exactly what Penn State needs. . .more bad publicity!

And yeah, it's racist and in poor taste. Dumb girls.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:29:22 PM
Oh.My.God.

Disgusting. Tasteless. And yes, racist, absolutely.

I think if my child participated in something like that, I would be extremely sad. What the hell is going on that kids even think to do stuff like this?


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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:32:01 PM
Wow! You would think the University as a whole would try to lay low for a while!!!


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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:33:58 PM
I considered to be racist AND poor taste.

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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:39:26 PM
I don't think its racist but I do think the signs were a dumb thing to do.



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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:40:35 PM
Racist, poor taste, the kind of thing that if my kid did I would crawl into a hole, etc.

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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:41:50 PM
Beyond stupid. I don't think it was racist, but I can see how some can see it that way.



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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:44:45 PM
Let's forget they had the signs.


Then? Is it offensive? Just for having a mexican themed party?

Is a toga party racists to the greeks?

Or is it totally just because of the signs?

Because are we going to get to a point in our nation, where it's so politically correct, that we can't even have "Mexican night" around the dinner table?


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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:53:21 PM
Incredibly stupid and bigoted.

Enjoying a margarita while wearing a sombrero is just silly fun. That's not what these young women were doing, though. If the OP is asking posters to qualify it as racist or just poor taste, then IMO it is both.

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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:53:49 PM
Poor taste



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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:55:09 PM
in my opinion, the signs are what take it into racist / profiling territory.




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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:56:57 PM
For me, those signs put it firmly in the racist - and stupid - camp.

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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:59:37 PM
Can my answer be "both."

Who raised these young ladies that this is even remotely acceptable? Even if only on a "this is not going to look good for us" level?





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Posted: 12/6/2012 4:59:41 PM
The party theme in and of itself is, as someone else said, "silly fun"

I don't know if it is racist or not. Not even sure I'd classify it as poor taste. I think the term "ignorant" applies quite well.

And stupid. I'd add stupid to the list as well.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 5:02:06 PM

Let's forget they had the signs.


Then? Is it offensive? Just for having a mexican themed party?

Is a toga party racists to the greeks?

Or is it totally just because of the signs?

Because are we going to get to a point in our nation, where it's so politically correct, that we can't even have "Mexican night" around the dinner table?



It is just the signs for me, like I stated. The theme is fine.



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Posted: 12/6/2012 5:03:06 PM
I think it was a bunch of stupid girls needing a reason to wear their stupid hipster mustaches.

I'd wish there were a few that had some empathy, common sense, a bit of compassion and just enough backbone..... to tell those who made the signs, that they were classless and racist.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 5:03:33 PM

It is just the signs, like I stated. The theme is fine


Theme fine, signs, stupid. That's what I was thinking.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 5:04:52 PM
I agree, the signs make it racist.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 5:08:56 PM
Racist, poor taste, completely idiotic...they all apply.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 5:11:23 PM
Neither. I think it was immaturity and an overreaction by a very PC world.

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Posted: 12/6/2012 5:11:28 PM
I think the signs take it into the racist category. And stupid. And classless.

Really?


Cheech and Chong would be persecuted these days.


I disagree. Two of the most famous comedians in Latin America are Los Polivoces. They make fun of campesinos. They are wildly famous.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 5:17:35 PM

Because are we going to get to a point in our nation, where it's so politically correct, that we can't even have "Mexican night" around the dinner table?


These women aren't having "Mexican Night" or celebrating Mexican culture. The signs are what make it insulting and racist.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 5:36:36 PM

Is a toga party racists to the greeks?


I don't know a single solitary real life Greek today who wears a toga. I don't think there are any real live toga wearers around to be offended by someone else's nasty stereotype of them. If there are, then I will gladly rescind my objection to the analogy.

On the other hand, I know some real live Mexicans who are often offended by nasty stereotypes of them, so I tend to be a bit more cautious of such impersonation.

But once again, I am a known stick in the mud, so...

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Posted: 12/6/2012 5:40:07 PM
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Posted: 12/6/2012 6:03:59 PM

Well, that's exactly what Penn State needs. . .more bad publicity!


Exactly what I thought! People, look what your school just went through. Keep your noses clean. Geez!

Dalayney, these wholesome young sorority ladies were not having a Mexican dinner around the table. They were mocking people based on stereotypes. The signs.

1950-Do something stupid. Keep it between you and your dumbass peers. Move on.

2012-Do something stupid. Photograph it with pride. Show the world. Live on in dumbass perpetuity.

Why oh why do these morons have to show the world their idiocy? Why are they so proud of it? The world of higher education in America. Getting dumber with every technological advantage instead of the other way around.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 6:11:47 PM
The outfits, no.

The signs, yes.



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Posted: 12/6/2012 6:13:09 PM

Let's forget they had the signs.




Why? Why would we do that?

If I take a picture eating dinner in a white hood with a burning cross, would you say...let's just forget about those pesky hoods and cross and concentrate on the pretty wine glasses?

When are we going to quit yelling about how overly politically correct things have become and actually recognize racism when it occurs?

That's either racist or stupid or both.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 6:15:28 PM

Neither. I think it was immaturity and an overreaction by a very PC world.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 6:20:57 PM
Not racist.
Silly. It was Halloween.

I've heard comedians of Hispanic lineage say similar things and people thought it funny. There's a little bit of truth in most stereotypes. All of them.







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Posted: 12/6/2012 6:21:08 PM

Neither. I think it was immaturity and an overreaction by a very PC world


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Posted: 12/6/2012 6:46:24 PM

They make fun of campesinos
Are campesinos farm workers?

eta - the signs - I can't believe they wouldn't know this wasn't ok. ignorant bunch of girls. sad They look cute in their Mexican get-ups though, that part doesn't bother me.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 8:25:48 PM
Without the signs, it is a group of girls dressed as Mexicans. With the signs they are using negative stereotypes. Which IMO is in fact racist.

What a bunch of dumb asses. How could they not realise where this was going to go?!?!

This from the link provided:


"The students in the photo are within their First Amendment rights to express themselves in this way," Powers said. "Although we are certainly appalled that they would display this level of insensitivity and lack of judgment."


I can't tell you how sick and tired I am of seeing someone justify something disgusting they have said by jumping on the "first amendment rights" wagon. Pathetic.

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Posted: 12/6/2012 8:30:05 PM
Just b/c you are within your rights to do something doesn't mean there are no consequences. Sometimes the consequences include people looking down upon you for your lack of taste and class, people thinking you did something wrong or stupid, disgust with your organization and it's 'values.'

These girls were representatives of a group--both Penn State and the sorority when they posted photos of themselves with those stupid signs. But as long as they were having fun and looking cute, right?


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Posted: 12/6/2012 8:44:36 PM
I guess I am not seeing the cute sorority girls others are.

I see entitled white women making a caricature out of my culture and laughing about it. And being called cute for it.

What makes me crazy is that I remember having this same damn discussion on my college campus twenty-five years ago. That long later, and this is how far we've gotten.

As has already been explained, the toga party analogy is off base. If you want to tell me that the PC folk are ruining your chance to have a Toms and Coons party, and make that analogy, then I'm listening.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 8:50:34 PM

I've heard comedians of Hispanic lineage say similar things and people thought it funny. There's a little bit of truth in most stereotypes. All of them.


Black comedians use the N word all the time in their routines. If you tell me that it's ok for people of other races to use the N word just because blacks use it, then I buy your argument. However, I doubt that you will make that assertion.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 8:59:28 PM
Maybe it's because I live in Central Texas, but I find it offensive, even without the signs. It smacks of the "lazy Mexican" stereotype to me -- the napping man, sombrero pulled over his head with the blanket across his shoulders.

When you dip down to derogatory symbols to represent an entire group, that's offensive.

These girls showed very poor judgment.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:09:27 PM
I am curious what the little bit of truth is in the lazy, pot smoking Mexican.


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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:21:58 PM
Los Polivoces on Youtube


Are campesinos farm workers?


campesinos are people from the "country"


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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:27:31 PM
I vote for both poor taste and racist.





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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:31:55 PM

Not racist.
Silly. It was Halloween.



The articles I saw said it was a party prior to Halloween. I am going
to guess, since they were all dressed alike, that it was either a rush party or a theme mixer with a frat. When I was in college, we had themes for Rush, but they were based on tv shows, or sports, or other silly things. My sons are in a frat and they have some themed mixers that are questionable, but still not a racist theme.

As for it being just a Mexican themed party, I don't know. I have been to Cinco de Mayo parties and never once did I see the female guests decked out in sombreros, serapes, and fake mustaches. If it were just a Cinco De Mayo themed event, without the mustaches and signs, maybe, just maybe I could buy it.

And to top it off, once again, kids stupidly post these pictures online.

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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:38:39 PM
baylor university

Evidently, this did not only happen in Penn State, it also happened in Baylor university .

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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:46:51 PM
Mexican themed party - fine.

Signs with derogatory stereotypes - racist.


There's a little bit of truth in most stereotypes. All of them.


Which truth are we portraying with this stereotype?


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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:52:33 PM
Honestly, I can't see how it is NOT racist.
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