Tragic - Princess Kate's Nurse who was pranked by the DJ's call dies
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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:12:59 AM

I don't think you can class this as a reasonable outcome they should have prepared for. You can't plan for every eventuality. You can't see something like this coming from the harmless joke.


See, I don't understand this thinking. Seems like the person playing the joke never really considers that it might not be harmless to other people involved in it through no choice of their own. If you can't plan for pretty much every eventuality then maybe you shouldn't carry out the prank. But then, I don't think the ones pulling the pranks really ever think of the other people; they are selfishly deciding based on their own reasons.

I've never found "prank" humor to be very funny.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:40:36 AM
I keep hearing the phrase "harmless joke." That is the rub. I have *never* seen pranks that rely on tricking or fooling someone, making them feel vulnerable and look foolish as "harmless."

I have a great sense of humor. Love comedy. Laugh a lot. I think comedy that is at the expense of tricking someone else is

Have never laughed at tricks and pranks like this.



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Posted: 12/8/2012 10:05:35 AM
I am surpised that they are even able to give infor over the phone to Kate's inlaws. In the US they are so strict with HIPPA that I don't think they are able to give any info here.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 10:12:07 AM

I can't understand anyone's mentality thinking that a hospital stay would give some credability to carry out any prank involving any patient.

ITA And Kate wasn't in the hospital with a sprained ankle. She was in for a serious condition that could threaten her pregnancy. There's nothing humorous about that.

I'm not a fan of prank humor, either. The whole point of prank humor is to make the victim look like an ass. Not funny, IMO.



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Posted: 12/8/2012 10:25:35 AM

A quote from you, that perfectly describes your posts on this thread.



How so? I find the very notion that she is a princess utterly repulsive. And like the DJs, I come from a country that pays tribute to her elitism.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 10:52:05 AM
Regardless of her status within the monarchy (she isn't a princess, she is actually titled dutchess), she is a person in a hospital with an illness. She is to be treated with the same professionalism and respect that anyone else would be. She is also entitled to the same legal protection regardless of your feelings about elitism. Once you walk through the hospital doors, I don't care if you are a queen or if you are homeless. You are entitled to the exact same care. Period. With your supposed beliefs in humanism should believe the same. Unless you want to see her punished for her privilege. If so, you are the hippocrite.


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Posted: 12/8/2012 10:54:48 AM
Batya, you have a habit of making shit up. I never said anything of her right to health care. The fact is, she chose to be the princess and is therefore going to be the target of pranks and harassment. I don't feel sorry for her in that respect.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 11:14:49 AM

If Kate and William do not want to be harassed, they can give up their made up elitist titles. The fact that there are kings and queens and princes and princesses is much more offensive to me than a stupid prank phone call.


Dude. Put down the crack pipe. THIS is what YOU said.

And I said, regardless of their titles, they are entitled to the care and professionalism in a HOSPITAL that anyone else gets. So they should not have an expectation of harassment just b/c you look at their lifestyles as a product of elitism. Once they pass through hospital doors they are people. Period.

I didn't make up anything.



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Posted: 12/8/2012 11:18:02 AM
either you made shit up or you have the reading comprehension of a pea-brain.

my comment said nothing of their rights and only of their reality.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 11:30:54 AM
You don't care about rights, suddenly. OK, so let's talk about reality. When you walk through the doors of a hospital, the reality is that you should be able to evade harrassment regardless of who you are. Whether that be at the hands of a stupid DJ, a criminal stalker or a MIL. Is that more clear for those of you who have problems with elitism? You are coming to a place that is treating you for a health condition. There are practical and legal procedures in place to protect you.

"Pea brain." Very punny! We're all pea brains here, aren't we?!


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Posted: 12/8/2012 11:53:46 AM

the reality is that you should be able to evade harrassment regardless of who you are


I agree that one would generally not want to be harassed while in the hospital. However, the rest of your post is utter bullshit.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 12:32:07 PM

However, the rest of your post is utter bullshit.


It's a matter of opinion who is posting the bullshit and it certainly isn't Batya !

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Posted: 12/8/2012 12:53:10 PM

If Kate and William do not want to be harassed, they can give up their made up elitist titles. The fact that there are kings and queens and princes and princesses is much more offensive to me than a stupid prank phone call.
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Yeh, you ask them to give up their *elitist* titles before Prince William rescues you in a blizzard from a mountain or you happen to have fallen down a deep revine - ask him to give up his title before he puts his own life at risk to rescue you.

Or you could also ask Prince Harry to give up his elitist title before he would cover you in combat in Afghanistan - that's if you have the courage to serve there !



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Posted: 12/8/2012 1:05:00 PM
i can hardly think of another search and rescue worker who gets monetary tributes because of their inbreeding.

i would never serve in an army because i think that they are mere tools of an elitist agenda.

you have to be a complete dumbass to disagree that royalty is elitist.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 1:33:37 PM
Of course royalty is elitist. But that's not the point. The point is that they are entitled to equal treatment and safety free from harassment at a hospital. If you don't agree, that's reverse discrimination. Just as bad. Kate is a human being who was ill and should not have been harassed just b/c she is royalty. If you are a humanist and care about people then that should bother you just as much.

I know, I know. I made stuff up, BS, have a pea brain and other ad hominem attacks b/c you can't stand to be wrong. Deflect! Deflect!

Stop crying propaganda. I'm a liberal but I am also a person who actually cares about human beings more than an agenda. If you care about people, it doesn't matter whether they wear a crown or have no shoes. We are all the same and when we are ailing it all falls away. No one deserves to be harassed when they are ailing.

You just make liberals look bad. You rail against things but when push comes to shove you don't really care about all people. Just the underdog. And only in theory. You sit behind your computer, smoke your weed and theorize.


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Posted: 12/8/2012 1:34:23 PM
i don't smoke weed.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 1:41:48 PM
Well, if that's all you got from that, you're on something. Good luck.


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Posted: 12/8/2012 2:05:27 PM

i can hardly think of another search and rescue worker who gets monetary tributes because of their inbreeding.



Check you facts - Prince William does not get any monetary gains from the Civil List !


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Posted: 12/8/2012 2:33:42 PM
ya instead him and his family get 100 million US per annum of public money

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Posted: 12/8/2012 4:06:58 PM
Don't usually post as prefer to lurk but I really hate people who don't get their facts right

to the poster who is whining about the royals family and the civil list

Google is your friend

Only The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh receive funding from the Civil List. The Queen reimburses the annual parliamentary allowances received by other members of the Royal Family.
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surrender of the hereditary revenues (mainly the net surplus of the Crown Estate) by the Sovereign. £190.8 million (2005-2006)

In 2005, Civil List expenditure amounted to £11.2m.

Hmmm, the Sovereign surrenders £190.8 m and in return receives £11.2m for official expenses as Sovereign.

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THE CIVIL LIST

The Civil List is the sum provided by Parliament to meet the official expenses of The Queen's Household so that Her Majesty can fulfil her role as Head of State and Head of the Commonwealth.

It is not in any sense 'pay' for The Queen, but funding for her official work.

The Civil List dates back to the Restoration of the Monarchy in 1660, but the current system was created on the accession of George III in 1760.

In that year it was decided that the whole cost of civil government should be provided by Parliament in return for the surrender of the hereditary revenues (mainly the net surplus of the Crown Estate) by the Sovereign.

In the financial year 2005-06 the revenue surplus from the Crown Estate paid to the Treasury amounted to £190.8 million.

As a result of Royal Household efficiency savings and lower than expected inflation during the period up to December 2000, a reserve of £35.3 million was carried forward. The annual amount of the Civil List for the next 10 years for the period up to December 2010 remained fixed at £7.9 million.

In 2005, Civil List expenditure amounted to £11.2m. Since the transfer of additional expenditure to the Civil List with effect from 1 April 2001, Civil List expenditure exceeds the annual £7.9 million payment, and amounts are therefore now withdrawn from the reserve each year, rather than being paid into it.

The budget for each year's projected net Civil List spending is reviewed by the Treasury, which audits the accounts and verifies that the Household's financial management is in line with best practice.

About 70 per cent of Civil List expenditure goes to pay the salaries of staff working directly for The Queen.

prince charles has his own private income from the Duchy of Cornwall and he pays for William and kates bits and pieces, KATE IS NOT A PRINCESS either .

Back on topic

the nurse who took her life over the unfunny prank call was from India and for those of you who are unaware people from that part of the world are brought up with a very strong work ethic and are taught to respect their Employers/friends from almost day one, It is not actually uncommon for people to take thier lives if they feel they have greatly disrespected Employer's / friends . So this maybe the case saying she had issues beforehand is not very nice as no one knows the full story . All that matters is that there are now two kids without a Mother and a Husband who has lost his wife

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Posted: 12/8/2012 4:14:54 PM
any public money to the queen is too much. as canadians we pay $1.50 per capita to the royals. it is a complete waste of money. there should be no queen.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 4:55:34 PM

there should be no queen.



Yeah, we gathered that you're not keen on the royal family. . . . anything else?



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Posted: 12/8/2012 5:25:04 PM

any public money to the queen is too much. as canadians we pay $1.50 per capita to the royals. it is a complete waste of money. there should be no queen.


Just to make sure you have the correct facts - Canadian citizens do not pay $1.50 to the ROYALS - the cost that you are referring to covers the Governor General's post. You make it sound as if you are contributing to the Royal Family which is not correct.

You and others that feel the same are quite welcome to join the movement of the Citizens for the Canadian Republic if you so wish.

I'm sure an elected president would cost you a lot more than $1.50 per capita.






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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:19:18 PM

A quote from you, that perfectly describes your posts on this thread.

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How so? I find the very notion that she is a princess utterly repulsive. And like the DJs, I come from a country that pays tribute to her elitism.

There is almost no need for me to post, as you make my point so well.

Everyone else is talking about the tragedy of the suicide of an innocent person after a prank call that went wrong.
You're the only fool banging on about elitism and princesses over and over. You do need an IQ check because you are obviously unable to comprehend the topic at hand.

This was a prank call, to a HOSPITAL about a sick pregnant woman - in what universe is that ever OK? Even if this lady hadn't killed herself, the prank could have cost several people their jobs, is that funny too?

But you think prank calls are perfectly OK - great, let's hope next time someone you love is sick in hospital you get a prank call about that person. Wouldn't that be hilarious?

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Posted: 12/8/2012 9:48:53 PM
1.50 to pay for the monarchal framework and 60 mill for their vacation...huge waste of money.

as for the prank phone call, not a big deal - as i said, don't be a princess if you want privacy.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 10:02:26 PM
Yes, you've said exactly the same thing 10 times now - we get it, you are too dumb to understand what the rest of us are talking about.
No point engaging you any further...can't fish in a dry pond.

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Posted: 12/8/2012 10:03:29 PM
someone's a tad upset/psycho

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Posted: 12/8/2012 10:16:40 PM

I'm sure an elected president would cost you a lot more than $1.50 per capita.


Isn't that the truth.


On the thread topic. The whole thing is rather tragic. I dont know how anyone can say otherwise.


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Posted: 12/8/2012 11:09:17 PM
Yes, it's tragic. It was meant as a joke and for reasons unknown, that poor woman cracked.

Sad for the Kate, William and the baby, as it puts a dark cloud over this pregnancy.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 3:12:41 PM

An apology was forthcoming the next day after the prank from the radio station. BUT it was followed by jokes and boasting on their website and twitter accounts, so it doesn't sound to me like they were sorry at all. They've both been stood down as of now, wether they'll be reinstated remains to be seen. Mind you, anyone who describes herself in her bio as "having a rack that's not half bad" isn't working on a full set of batteries anyway IMHO. Stupid and tragic for everyone concerned.


That was after the prank but before the suicide, right? I think the DJs are completely distraught over what has happened. I saw a snipped of an interview with them and they looked destroyed. The woman's face was all puffy and she couldn't stop crying. It *was* a stupid prank, but agree with others--they are not responsible and they had no way of anticipating this would be the result.

Just so sad all the way around.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 4:15:22 PM
i finally just heard the prank call. there is no way those djs were responsible for the nurses' suicide. she definitely was on the brink and would have killed herself either way. the prank phone gets 1/10 on the outrageous meter, it wasn't even funny. but the part played by the dead nurse was so insignificant that it is a really stretch to put her death on the djs.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 4:29:24 PM

I think the DJs are completely distraught over what has happened. I saw a snipped of an interview with them and they looked destroyed. The woman's face was all puffy and she couldn't stop crying. It *was* a stupid prank, but agree with others--they are not responsible and they had no way of anticipating this would be the result.




And yet, in that same interview where they are so distraught, they employ the defence that it was not their choice to air the prank call. As if washing their own hands of any responsibility. I'm not unfeeling towards them, but clearly they are minimizing their own role in all this. So I'm not sure if they have really learnt anything.

I disagree with anyone saying that the call was so harmless they should not shoulder some blame. There will always be exceptions, vulnerable people, or people who feel things differently or take them to heart more heavily. That should be taken as a warning about the nature of such "jokes", not a reason to blame the victim.





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