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Posted: 1/6/2013 4:11:20 PM
Ever since I saw this line I KNEW I have seen it before. Are the two designers working together or is it a copy, a coincidence or what? Does this not look just like the new ILS designs "divine this line"- well, one of them anyway?

http://www.ahouseinthehills.com/ahouseinthehills/2011/11/28/birds-of-a-feather-patterns.html a house in the hills

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Posted: 1/6/2013 4:22:30 PM
Wow, very similar!



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Posted: 1/6/2013 4:45:42 PM
I remember that they have another paper just like one of the 14 papers... the aqua chevron?

I'm not very conservative, but I didn't realize they used that kind of language on scrapbook supplies!


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Posted: 1/6/2013 4:51:41 PM
I agree with you Kim. That language is little over the top.


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Posted: 1/6/2013 4:55:44 PM

I'm not very conservative, but I didn't realize they used that kind of language on scrapbook supplies!

I must be blind. I'm not seeing anything off-color. Can you please be specific - which item from which collection?



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Posted: 1/6/2013 4:59:50 PM
"I must be blind. I'm not seeing anything off-color. Can you please be specific - which item from which collection?"

The ILS line in the link near the end of post
F-you
F-yeah
F-this
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Posted: 1/6/2013 5:02:24 PM
You have to scroll quite a ways down to the stamp sets....


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Posted: 1/6/2013 5:07:16 PM
WHOA! Those European girls must make some very racy pages!

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Posted: 1/6/2013 5:13:30 PM
Thanks shyone and scrappycass! I can see Kristina Contes scrapping with that, LOL!

I do like a lot of their other sayings. They're different.



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Posted: 1/6/2013 5:14:22 PM

WHOA! Those European girls must make some very racy pages!


First thing that popped in my head when I read this is "what kind of LOs is Glitter Girl making behind the camera?"


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Posted: 1/6/2013 5:18:46 PM
Hahaha Kim- so now we know what these Europeans are REALLY scrapping!

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Posted: 1/6/2013 5:47:57 PM
I love the offensive language. My husband and I should come with a parental warning. They could use those stamps for project life stuff or layouts. I can totally see myself using them. To each their own, right?


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Posted: 1/6/2013 6:04:08 PM
That's offensive. I'm sorry but too over the top.



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Posted: 1/6/2013 6:05:23 PM

To each their own, right?


Yep!


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Posted: 1/6/2013 6:29:50 PM
Beautiful papers.
I would not use those stamps, but it doesn't bother me that others would. Vive la difference!



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Posted: 1/6/2013 6:38:33 PM
The winter collection blues/greens are beautiful. I could see myself fiendishly stalking them.

I **might** use that language occasionally but not with my scrapbooking. I do agree to each her own, though.

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Posted: 1/6/2013 8:22:59 PM
I don't think I would buy those f'n stamps! Kinda funny though!


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Posted: 1/6/2013 11:46:03 PM
They are both listed as being by different designers, but two of those are pretty darn near identical.



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Posted: 1/7/2013 12:47:16 AM

I am wondering if the F---- has something to do with translation.
When viewed at this web address, it isn't the F-word used in the designs?


Or they tamed it down for us prudish Americans!

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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:07:09 AM
I'm a European girl and although I like the collection I wouldn't use the F. word tags or other!


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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:17:41 AM
In that second link (the blog) they show this in tiny letters under the pics:


We removed the rude stickers and stamps from this post because we don't want to hurt your feelings. If anyone felt offended, we apologize.

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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:34:22 AM
I saw this:



Daphne6 stycznia 2013 11:09
Like the colours and the design - but unfortunately not the rude swearing words


annamariawolniak6 stycznia 2013 11:13

Nasty words are only for personal use for European girls




I am not offended. Different strokes for different folks, and all. Anna Maria may have been trying to be funny, but that response just doesn't sound very professional to me.




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Posted: 1/7/2013 2:38:12 AM
Lol - to my knowledge, Glitter Girl doesn't have any stamps quite like that! When I worked with a uk stamp company, we did sometimes joke that we should do a phrase set of just words that sound fine to the American ear but are quite offensive in the UK. there are some words that have different meanings and they just make me cringe to see them on quite innocent scrapbook supplies - it's just an amazing cultural difference where the words mean such differerent things. But we were only kidding - we never made them into stamps.

Though I can't speak for the designers of that line at all, I would say culturally there is a very different use of swear words in Europe to the States. It is more pronounced in countries that don't speak English as their first language but swearing in English has mixed into the culture. When I was a teenager in a little Kansas farm town, we hosted a Swedish exchange student who was 17 and she brought her school yearbook. it was full of swearing (in the actual printed text, not just what people had signed) and because that was the only bit in English, it was all I could read. I'd never seen such a thing! A few years later when I started to travel, it made more sense. It definitely doesn't have the same offence level in much of European culture. (it is still relatively offensive in the UK though maybe slightly less shocking than in the US.) sometimes it feels like it almost doesn't 'count' because it's in another language. A bit like when swear words get watered down and things like 'darn' and 'gosh' stand in for words that would make something more offensive. I'm not an expert on that subject - that's just what it feels like as an observer of the upbringing that if you said those words as a teenager you'd be sent home from school and grounded until you were thirty!

Sorry that was a total hijack but I was just finding the cultural element of the stamp discussion interesting.


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Posted: 1/7/2013 6:26:01 AM
I could not support buying this line when I can see it is a blatant rip off of another designer...but to each his own. Unless they bought the rights to those designs- hopefully there is something I don't know about because I would hate that in this industry

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Posted: 1/7/2013 7:01:27 AM
That is NOT a word I'd say in any sort of context, much less place on a scrapbook page!


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Posted: 1/7/2013 7:38:13 AM
I don't think the designs are a blatant rip off. They look very similar and look like they are both heavily influenced by current fashion and design trends. I have sheets of papers by a variety of companies that have very similar designs and colours to those posted by the two companies here.






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Posted: 1/7/2013 9:04:18 AM
I agree that the designs are probably not a blatent rip off. There are 999 chevron papers... Certainly we can't say that they all copied each other... trends sell, so all the companies follow the trends.

And thanks Shimelle! It is an interesting topic. And happy to know that GG doesn't have a secret stash of naughty supplies!


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Posted: 1/7/2013 9:40:53 AM
Totally NSBR here but:

Years ago ; 10 maybe? I was collecting accounts receivables for a business. I sent statements. This one owner of a car sales company (one of the major 3) owed us money. The statement was returned to me with "F-this" (full words) stamped on it in bright red three inch letters. I thought it was hilarious (not) that a major business would do that. Offensive in that setting. I've never bought a vehicle from that company either.


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Posted: 1/7/2013 9:46:49 AM
I've never seen stamps like that before. I'm Speechless! My mom has an old notepad from the 1960's that said, "Isn't this a lovely day, now watch some jerk F--- it Up." I'm putting in a pocket on her LO at work, because she got a great laugh from her co-workers ( mostly men) giving her foul mouth cartoons and memos, but the stamps threw me. i wouldn't feel comfortable just putting something like that on a LO. But, to each his own.

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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:05:11 AM
I think some of the designs are a blatant rip-off. Not sure from which side though. It's not a simple chevron, it's a lot more technical than that.

The F-bomb stamps are absolutely awesome! But I do swear like a sailor sometimes. Regardless, I wouldn't buy them. I curse IRL, but I don't want that on my pages for some reason.




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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:37:04 AM
I was really shocked when I saw the stamps!! Hearing people say the words doesn't bother me, I agree - each to their own, but I'd rather not use them on my layouts. I wouldn't want to see them in shops either where children could see them.

Tbh though - I found the comment that they were for the European even more offensive than the actual stamps!!!!

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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:41:18 AM
Why are people offended that the stamps are better intended for a different culture? Why does that matter? Different cultures view/use words differently, and as we can see from this thread most Americans wouldn't use them!

BTW, I always joked that I should have a "WTF?" stamp for when I was marking papers, because it would save me time trying to leave comments when figuring out what (university) students were trying to say on poorly written papers. My mom and DH also mark/grade university papers, so a stamp like that would get good use in our family! Of course, we couldn't actually use it, but the idea always made me laugh.






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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:59:46 AM
I wouldn't call that paper "chevron" at all- although I guess it is...to me they are almost identical. Same with the peach colored one. It can't be coincidental can it? Same color scheme and all?

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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:14:20 AM
heh, I totally love the f-bombs. I'd buy them and use them.

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Posted: 1/7/2013 12:34:37 PM
I don’t think I’d need stamps if I wanted to say that in my scrapbook. I have a million Thickers.

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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:01:11 PM

Tbh though - I found the comment that they were for the European even more offensive than the actual stamps!!!!


This is not directed towards you =) , but I think it's obnoxious to go and make a comment about how you dislike the F-bomb stamps. It seems a bit self-righteous to say the least. The manu knew what they were doing, so it's clearly was not meant for everyone. To call them out on it is unnecessary IMO. I guess Anna-Maria was just trying to be funny without actually saying that Americans are prudish, which as this thread (and the blog comment) exemplifies is the truth.


ETA: I think I will get those stamps for my art journal!!! I just remembered an entry I made that had F*** You in huge letters in the center. It was about my old nightmare job with a horrible monster boss. It was so so cathartic. I don't mind cursing in the journal, but I do mind on my scrap pages for some reason.




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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:12:52 PM
Wow! Those are really similar! And yeah, not a fan of the stamps.


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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:20:55 PM
Kind of ironic how she has the "linked with love" icon on her blog page
The stamps don't bother me- I would not use them- I don't really talk or even think that way, imagine your grandchildren unearthing your journal someday, and seeing that- hahahaha grandma was really racy!

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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:43:03 PM

I'm not very conservative, but I didn't realize they used that kind of language on scrapbook supplies!
Oh my! I am just shocked by that! It is one thing to let the F-bomb fly from time to time, but to create that!?

Plus, they are horrific copy cats!!



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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:53:33 PM
Goodness this is a shocker, I didn't realise us Europeans were known for our foul mouths.

Not stamps I would personally feel comfortable using, but I love some of the other stamps and lines

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Posted: 1/7/2013 2:32:40 PM
I think they do look similar, but I have seen worse and they called it, "inspired". We just seem to accept it around here. the colors are to muted for my taste, so I would not be purchasing either way.

As for the stamps I stand by my earlier statement, not interested in that language in my album. Call me a prude all you want lol. Where I am from that is not considered lady like to talk with that type of language.

Shimelle, I think your comment has some merit. I work with many different nationalities and they all have different takes on the use And are more "liberal" with the use of that type of language than most in my area.

To each there own.

I want to add that the Pinterest board recently posted shows that all their designs. It is a copy. And to copy that crappy stamp too... Sad.


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Posted: 3/21/2013 1:55:12 PM
I am an European Girl (actually a German girl living in the UK) and I commented on their website to that line.
I don't like the F-word at all and would never use it; so do my friends, my relatives and my parents.
Please don't lump us Europeans all together!


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Posted: 3/21/2013 2:42:30 PM
I am not offended by the stamps, but I am quite offended that someone would claim that all Europeans swear like sailors. Nonsense! I have never and will never use the f-word in my life. I really am angered by that comment! I would call it prejudiced, and not funny or toungue in cheek at all.

I think it's more of a language barrier than a cultural difference. If you are not as familiar with the English language you will not understand quite how offensive the f-word is.



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Posted: 3/22/2013 7:47:23 AM
The F-word stickers in my opinion, are just the good or bad taste of the company designers. Should they or shouldn't sell them, is the other topic. The most important thing in this case, is stealing designs by ILS paper designer - Anna-Maria Wolniak, just to make this even more funier, the F-word stickers was also stolen by her
-> http://pinterest.com/pin/31666003602282423/

I'll try to show you whole situation in one big shortcut. The original founder of ILS was Anna Wach aka. Nulka, and something about over a year ago, Anna-Maria Wolniak became a co-owner. Her job - AMW - was to project new paper collections - with one other designer Ewa Kujawska (Nebri). Almost whole storm has started on wednesday/thursday last week, when DT members discovered that the last collection - Divine This Line, has few papers that suspiciously similar to another designers work. They decided to go to the source, the girl that has own the copyrights to those similar designes. After few mails, DT members was informed by Sarah (the owner)that ILS stoled her designs, that she received a lot of emails informing her about ILS collection. Sarah wrote email to ILS, demands to delete her papers, withdraw them from selling, write an apology. After three months, the only thing she recieved during this time, was a very rude email from AMW - the CO-OWNER AND COLLECTION DESIGNER . She recieved a small fee for stolen designes, after the ILS DT members starts a fire. Till this time ILS owners - Anna Wach and Anna-Maria Wolniak, was quiet. Very quiet. In a way, that nobody knows - nobody talks. DT members after such a news - resigned. Almost whole Design Team has ended their co-operation. Till now, they're waiting for any form of apologizee from Anna-Maria Wolniak. We can say, Anna Wach make such a statement. And now here's the deal. I got such a feeling, that half of you don't understand the situation. Anna-Maria Wolniak - and I don't give a damn about writing names - stole not 2 or 4 designes. The stolen paper designes, flow out at the moment and there are about maybe 20-25, from the last 2 years. She talks about herself like an huge worldwide artist, and at the end, we find out, that she's not only a thief, that stoles anothers work, but also a liar - yeah, apparently she didn't finish The School of Fine Arts. She's known in Poland as a bitch, but she don't give a damn about opinion in Poland, she wants to be famous in the whole wide world, but not on her own country. Still, she's in Studio Calico Design Team and Dear Lizzy DT, i'm just figuring out - did she makes her works by herself or just copying others? I hope i show you a little more than you're thinking, and disable your pity for her, that irritates me very much, as i know the whole situation. Have a nice day
Oh, and by the way. She's deleting any form of question about the whole situation and any questions about illegal copying and stoling others designs from her fanpage on FB.

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Posted: 3/22/2013 7:48:33 AM
An interesting email from the original owner of designs stolen by Anna-Maria Wolniak:

link

And the main thing - ILS haven't ended their activity, they only temporary stopped.

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Posted: 3/22/2013 7:50:32 AM
Holy crap!!!! Thanks for the low-down....


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Posted: 3/22/2013 8:43:06 AM
I must be missing something. I don't see what you all are talking about.








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Posted: 3/22/2013 10:18:40 AM
Hi Everyone,

I'm Sarah, the owner of the designs that were stolen. I want to finally chime in here to say a few things. First, thank you so much for your support! It has been amazing to see the scrapbook community come together in support of copyright, and more importantly in support of ethical behavior in the design community.

I'd like to share my side of the story and clear up any misconceptions!

I received quite a few emails alerting me to the fact that I Lowe Scraps was using the designs that I had commissioned from a brilliant designer Aileen Cheng . When I confirmed that a few of the papers were exact copies of the designs I commissioned, I reached out to them. (I also noticed that the logo for the collection was also a ripoff of my own logo).

I included the response that I received from them in a Studio Calico Forum, which was immediately deleted by moderators (Anna works there). But another thread was quickly started and someone found the original post and took a screenshot of it (can be seen here) Unfortunately that post was also deleted. It seems that Studio Calico wants to control the amount of information the community has about this issue.

Bottom line is this: The owner of the company admitted the designes were stolen and paid my designer a small fee and agreed to stop selling the papers. I've been informed by distributors that they have not been responding in regards to refunding them for the papers they no longer want to sell. It's a very unfortunate situation and we're very grateful that you've taken a stand, stealing another designer's work and passing it off as your own should never be tolerated or excused.

Thank you again!

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Posted: 3/22/2013 12:23:55 PM
Very informative, thanks for the recap and screenshots, Sarah.

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Posted: 3/22/2013 7:43:15 PM
OK, so here's a deal. I wrote a personal message to the SC moderator. Just like they wrote "If you have any questions, concerns, or humorous anecdotes to share, you can contact us here: http://www.studiocalico.com/conversations/new "
So i wrote under these link. And what??? Check this out, what SC thinks about stolen designs...


Hi,
first of all I'd like to congrats your moderators thunder speed actions. Nearly minute to delete the post, and almost 2 to delete an account. I see, you don't accept any words of clearly critics under your address. Once more congratulations of keeping your "creative" DT member. I'll let me paste over here my deleted post, hoping of recevieng satisfying answer.

Hi,
I would like to thank you for making a clear statement for the whole situation with Anna-Maria, unless I can't said i understand your point of view and your actions. If stealing designs and getting credits for it, by your DT member, a person who is a name sponsor to your company, is not an enough reason to get cut the contract off, then I don't understand what is. The bad fame will follow her, but it's your way of running company. All I can wish to SC, is not to have similar issues in future.
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