**Update** How do you bathe a huge dog in the winter?
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Posted: 1/8/2013 2:45:24 PM
We have a dog that's a pyranees mix. She's 7 months old and I have an appt next week to get her spayed. She's an outside watch dog, so I really want to bathe her before I take her in. If it was warm, I'd use the hose outside. When she was smaller and we kept her in the house a lot more, I just put her in the tub. The problem is that she hates it, she screams like I'm stabbing her when I pour water on her, and neither of our bath tubs have a handheld shower thing. She is so much bigger than the last time I tried to put her in the tub 2 months ago, I'm not sure if I can keep her in it now. Suggestions?

***Update:

I was unable to find a hand sprayer to go over the faucet in time, so Wednesday night I cleared out the master bath and put her in the garden tub. I had to lift her bodily to get her in, but DD helped me keep her there. She didn't do the death scream this time, but she wasn't happy. Her winter coat must be a combination of duck feathers and teflon. It took forever to actually get it saturated. Then while I was trying to fill up my a rinse cup, DD wasn't paying close enough attention and she jumped out covered in soap. We got her back in and rinsed eventually and were all soaked by the time it was done. It took over 30 minutes to get her almost dry with towels and the dryer. I had a whole load of soggy clothes and towels. She was so fluffy and soft when it was all said and done, so she got lots of extra hugs and attention from the whole family.

Yesterday we took her to the vet which was another difficult feat in itself since she hadn't been leash trained (we are basically on a farm so there wasn't a need until now) and got carsick several times on the long car ride. But, she did ok through the procedure and we're happy to have her back home today. She's obviously still feeling bad, she's been sleeping on the cool linoleum by the door since we came in.



I'll definitely get a sprayer before we try a bath again and hopefully its a long time before we have to go back to the vet.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 2:49:33 PM
I don't know I wash mine in the tub before I clean it but we have a hand held shower. He hates it too but he does it because i tell him too. It's so funny he runs if I tell my DS to go do his math homework because he thinks it's bath. DS says he wants to hide from math too. There is a local business where I am that you can bring your dog in and wash it yourself for about $25 kind of a do it yourself grooming place. Do you have anything like that near you?

I hope you can figure it out.

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Posted: 1/8/2013 2:53:51 PM
We have a hand held shower attachement too.

Do you have a self serve dog grooming place near by?

We actually just take our large dogs to the groomer We have 2 Samoyeds and a German Shepherd Dog. The Sams have a double coat so we don't bathe them ourselves, too much work!


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Posted: 1/8/2013 2:54:18 PM
We have a Pyrenees who is two years old - and he goes to PetSmart for his baths! He's like 130 pounds, and I don't think we've ever given him a bath at home, except for *maybe* once during his first year. After that, he was way too big to handle in the tub!

Fritz doesn't mind the bathing as much as he hates the dryer, they had to call us to come get him early the first two times because he was howling, but he's used to it now and doesn't complain anymore.

I'd definitely try one of those DIY places, and I know some people hate PetSmart grooming but ours isn't so bad and I want to say his bath is only $28-$30? Not including nails and tip ... he's so spoiled.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 2:55:44 PM
Lol at her reaction to getting a bath. Mine doesn't make any noise but when I tell her to get in the tub she slinks veeeeerrrrrrrrrrry sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowly, one paw at a time, into the tub. Then stands there with her head hanging down, ears flat, with *that* look in her eyes. The perfect picture of a poor pathetic abused and abandoned dog.

Anyway, I have no ideas for you since you said your shower has no hand-held nozzle thing. Could you take her to a groomer? I've never heard of those do-it-yourself dog washing places but what a good idea! lol...



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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:09:22 PM
Unfortunately I live way out in the middle of no where and the closest towns are small and don't have Petsmart or any of the doggie wash things. Part of the reason I want to bath her is because its an hour car ride to the vet. I have a crate to put her in, but I wanted to just use it on the way home when she's still groggy. We've never crated her before so she'll likely freak out if I try to stick her in it on the way there while she's still fully aware of everything.

And yes, she hates the hair dryer, too. I told DH she must think its a laser death ray or something. That's another reason I haven't bathed her since it got cold, I could just put her out in the sun during the warm weather and skip the whole dryer fiasco.

She's such a good dog. I love her to death and she minds so well to be young, but she's definitely a drama queen. She literally screams like a person when she freaks out. 2 nights ago I had set the litter box out the back door for DH to clean out. She got to it before he did and somehow got stuck in the lid (its a top entry box and has a hole cut in the lid). DD heard her screaming and looked outside, she was stuck with the lid around her waist. She was running up and down the hill screaming, DD thought a coyote or something had her and was yelling "Mom, something's got Penny!!" I had to go outside and removed her from the lid. I swear it was the funniest thing seeing her running all round stuck in that thing, I think she though it was eating her or something!

I really would like to bathe her, but we may just have to take a smelly dog to the vet.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:14:04 PM
Here she is about a month or so ago, she has gotten bigger since then. My mom actually asked me how I keep her so clean, but she cleans herself up pretty well. A few weeks ago she was covered in something black, no idea what she'd got into, but by the next morning she was all white again.



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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:20:47 PM
Aww, what a sweet face she has. I love how their eyes look like they have eyeliner on!

Have you checked to see if the vet's office does any grooming, or at least bathing? It might be costly, and may not work into your timeline, but it is worth a shot to ask.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:26:46 PM
I'm with Amy, I used to work at our vets during high school and I bathed the dogs all the time as we also groomed pets. Call the vet and see if you can drop her off the night before to be bathed and he can spay her in the am. Good luck and she's such a beautiful dog!


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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:32:58 PM
I just gave Emmett his holiday shower on Saturday. The rest of the year I bathe him with the hose outside and let him air dry, but in the winter, I give him a decadent warm shower in the downstairs shower (we never use it - it's in the guest bath). He will just stand there looking sad. Then I brush and blowdry. Then he skips around the house naked just like a toddler.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:38:36 PM
Does your Vet have a groomer in office? If that's a possibility you could take her a day early they could groom her, and then spay her later in the day.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:40:19 PM
What a big cuddley teddy bear Penny is Except she dropped her drama queen crown

We got complimented on one of our sams being so clean and pretty and to us he was looking pretty bad! I love it when our white boys get home from the groomer's. Koda is going today as a matter of fact and I can't wait to give him a big old bear hug!


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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:41:50 PM
I take my Newfoundland to the groomer. Call ahead though, not all groomers can handle giant breed dogs.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:42:17 PM
Well isn't she just gorgeous!

Definitely check with your vet. They may be able to take care of everything for you.

If not, I'd just do the best I can at home... screaming and all. I have one that screamed bloody murder when she was little. She HATED baths. We just kept at it. Now she's the only one that doesn't run from us when we say the word "bath". She does really well!

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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:00:04 PM
Thanks on her behalf for the compliments. It's hard to tell in this pic because of the sun, but she has little black spots on her face that look like freckles and she has a light brownish blonde saddle and ears. A friend posted pics of the pups on facebook and I laid claims to her immediately, lol. She was the prettiest and everyone wanted her but my friend held her until I could get her (my yorkie had surgery the same week the pups were ready to give away.) Someone had given her an adult female dog, told her it had been spayed, and supposedly it was part Great Dane. No idea what the dad was since her dog being pregnant was obviously a total surprise, but we're thinking a Pyranees by the looks of Penny.

She has to have shots next week too, so I really can't afford to add on a groom right now. We have to get her spayed ASAP because my sister's dog hangs out here a lot and he is unneutered If I could afford it, I would get him fixed, too.

She isn't supposed to eat or drink after midnight the night before, so I think I might bring her in and try to bathe her in the garden tub. If I put up everything in the room that is breakable or shouldn't get wet, I think I can wrestle her into the tub with the help of DD or DH and maybe use a bucket. I might wear a swim suit for that then I can confine her to the bathroom overnight to keep her out of the cat and other dog's food. I'll have to update you guys on this.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:09:55 PM
You can buy a handheld shower head with a decent length hose for around $20. It's not very hard to swap out the heads when you need to bathe the dog.

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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:16:31 PM
We have a walk in double shower. Dd puts on a swim suit and take our dog into the shower. While they are in there we turn on a portable heater in the bathroom to get it extra toasty. Our dog is a short hair, so a towel dry and time in the bathroom is all she needs. She would probably freak at the blow dryer.

Why is your pup an outdoor dog? Mine would freak at that too. She's a big baby.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:25:20 PM
Since this will be an ongoing thing, it would be a good idea now while she's young to try to turn "bath time" around to something less stressfull for her. She may never LOVE it, but you should be able to get her to the point to where she'll grudgingly put up with your "silliness".

I have a golden retriever service dog who LOVES to swim all summer long in our lake - she'll play fetch non-stop if she gets to swim out to retrieve whatever you throw for her. However, when time for a bath, she looks much like that sweet brown dog.

She hates sliding around so we throw a towel in the bottom of our tub to minimize her feet sliding. We added a hand-held attachment to our shower, and we bath her in the tub. Gracie will do ANYTHING for a food treat, so we give her quick tiny treats during her bath. Once she is out of the tub, she always happily rolls around on her beach towel on the floor - then comes to me for her BIG TREAT (rawhide teeth cleaning chew).

Gracie still doesn't love bath time, but she willingly even hops into the tub now (treat awaits her in there) and puts up with the bath.

In your case, you might work at training her to hop into your tub, then in and stay a few minutes, working up to actually running water while dog is in the tub to eventually giving her regular tub baths. Sometimes you just do things periodically so she remains used to it for when you HAVE to. Take baby steps now to "desensitize her" and help her get past the crazy fear.

Oh, and I don't know HOW cold it is where you live right now, but our dog actually STILL loves to swim in the lake while there is snow on the ground and ice forming in the lake. Your dog will likely be able to handle a warm water bath with the hose outside in your climate just fine - then bring her inside till she dries off.

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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:28:32 PM
We bath our dogs indoors. We bought the handheld shower thing for this purpose. It's easy to swap out.



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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:45:19 PM
You can buy a hand held doggie shower that attaches to your tub spout. I bring our dogs into the shower with us and they don't mind, since I am in there with them. Usually I wet them and soap them up and scrub the heck out of them. Then I shower myself and rinse them. It takes a LOT to rinse our big dogs, far less on the little girls.

We also have a do it yourself dog wash and they are GREAT. I would check there first and do it at home second.



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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:46:32 PM
Laurie, you doggie looks so sad

Cindi - she is a "working" dog. We were actually looking for a pure Great Pyr because they are excellent guard dogs and are good with livestock, but had no luck finding a breeder nearby (I won't buy from a breeder unless I can check out where they are coming from) and none of the rescues I talked to would work with me because we were too far away for them to do home visits. I lucked into finding her.

We live out in the mountains and have no other neighbors for nearly a mile except for my Dad, who's house actually can't even be seen from ours. DH works second shift and we needed something outside to let us know if someone or something is out there that shouldn't be at night. Plus we have chickens and she is a great deterrent to keep coyotes etc away from them. I let her in the house often to play etc, but she actually prefers to be outside when its cool. In the summer we will probably keep her in more often, the heat is harder on her. She has a nice insulated dog house with a big bed, but unless its raining or snowing, she just sleeps in the yard in front of the house. All that fur keeps her toasty.

I need to find one of those rubber hose type shower attachments that slips over the faucet. The tub in our master bath is separate from the shower and bigger and better suited than the one in DD's bathroom. The shower is just a small stall, no way she would fit in it.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:50:39 PM
I forgot, but when we had to bathe the horses for horse shows, we had this Y connector for the hose. We would hook it up to the faucets going to the washer so we could use warm water on the horses


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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:53:14 PM
In the winter we either bathe Cooper in the bathtub or have them bathe him at doggy daycare. It costs $20 at daycare but it's so worth not having to clean up the mess. (Just think LOTS of loose black dog hair clinging to EVERYTHING in the tub -- a royal PITA).

He needs a bath now come to think of it. He's a stinky boy!!! (but oh so cute!)


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There's a mobile dog bathing truck that makes the rounds through our neighborhood we've thought of trying but haven't so far. There's also a pet store in a nearby town that has a huge tub they let people use. Haven't tried either yet but we may do that soon. It may just be easier & cheaper to let doggy daycare folks do it.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:55:05 PM

Mine doesn't make any noise but when I tell her to get in the tub she slinks veeeeerrrrrrrrrrry sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowly, one paw at a time, into the tub. Then stands there with her head hanging down, ears flat, with *that* look in her eyes. The perfect picture of a poor pathetic abused and abandoned dog


That cracked me up. Totally can picture that.



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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:56:39 PM
Dori, that is an excellent suggestion! My washer is right by the back door so that would work perfectly for us. Thanks!


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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:11:47 PM
We have a big lab puppy who loves water, but not bathes. We did what 3kidsmama suggested. We put her in our big soaking tub in the master bath when she was little. That kept her safe when I had to shower, and I always had a toy in there that she hadn't seen in a while. Treats are good, too! After a few times, I would put an inch or so of water in the tub and toss a ball in there. Happy days!

When she was 3 months old, we took her on vacation in MN, where there are more lakes than people. She was wet the entire time and just loved the water. She still isn't crazy about baths, but will tolerate them.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:18:48 PM
Michelle, that is excellent advice about letting the puppy play in the tub. Wish I'd thought of it when Penny was small. The yorkie likes taking a bath, so it didn't occur to me that another dog would hate it SO much. She does tolerate being in the tub, its the pouring of water over her and use of dryer that she thinks is murderous. I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and wrestle her though them until she gets use to it I guess.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:20:36 PM
We have a walk in shower. We let him just walk in and use the handheld part of the shower with the door open. He doesn't mind it.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:26:39 PM
If we ever get to remodel, a walk in shower is top priority in the plans. That would be so convenient.

Just because I like to show off the critters, here's our Christmas pic. I posted it on one of the holiday threads, but its too hilarious not to share again!



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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:47:59 PM
We have a utility sink in the garage and my husband hooks the hose up to it. You can have whatever temperature water you want. Also -- water drains naturally out of the garage; so you could bathe her inside, away from the cold and leave her in the garage to dry.

Of course, I can just use the utility sink since we have a Maltese--all white also. She is an inside dog and spoiled, so she stays clean, but still goes to the groomers every 6 weeks.

She gets very excited over seeing the groomer and suddenly remembers this means a bath and starts trying to back up and get back into the car!!

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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:53:20 PM
That is the most adorable picture!!

We got Fritz from a farm out in SW VA, after trying unsuccessfully to rescue a Great Pyr that had lost his owners due to a heart attack and house fire. The dog was only a year old, but he'd been outside all that time, alone (in a very large enclosure with some shelter) and he was just too wild. We tried to corral him and collar/leash him for almost 2 hours in the snow before we gave up. We were so bummed. The lady that had been taking care of him actually located some puppies for us, and contacted us a couple of weeks later. We made another 8 hour drive out west to pick up the furball from a sheep farm, and he has been providing us with daily entertainment ever since!

He is so spoiled though - he doesn't want to be outside without us. He is a great guard dog, being so ginormous, it doesn't take much for him to intimidate someone. And he's just a big teddy bear, I wish I had some good pics to share.


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Posted: 1/8/2013 6:36:58 PM
That holiday picture is beyond perfect!!!

I think, my parents got the Y hook up at the hardware store, it was back in the 70's (yes showing my age) and I was a kid though. It was nice to have warm water for the horses though


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Posted: 1/8/2013 6:43:28 PM
Awww. That is a great picture!

I should have said that my advice was for others. You can use it on the current pup, but it would takes weeks.

I guess I would just take a deep breath and pay whatever the vet wants to bathe him. That's a lot of fur!


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Posted: 1/8/2013 7:22:31 PM
Ours won't stay out of the shower. In fact yesterday he jumped in the tub while it was filling. Gotta love a lab.

I'd get a hand held shower attachment, our was pretty cheap at Home Depot. Then coax him into the shower and start rather slowly bathing him. I found it better to actually put the leash on and walk him in there. Of course now he's the opposite.

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