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~*Trollie*~
My virtue has been restored! =)
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The gun loving, I wanna take my gun everywhere people can live on one side, and the rest of us can live on the other side.
The gun lovers can arm their kindergarteners, take their guns to Macy's and sleep in their bunkers. The rest of us can carry on with our daily lives.
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SDeven
Love Letters Pea
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Unfortunately it's just not that easy. There are also plenty of gun owners who are more realistic and balanced than the nuts at Macy's that make the news.
I have a concealed carry permit but you would never know it. |
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I want to divide the country along the lines of those who want to pay more taxes, have more spending, more debt etc on one side and those who believe in fiscal responsibility on the other. Sounds like a win-win to me. |
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~Laurie~
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 2:11:41 PM
I think the country started becoming divided 4 years ago. |
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~*Trollie*~
My virtue has been restored! =)
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August 2006
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 2:13:40 PM
I think the country started becoming divided 4 years ago.
It was divided LONG before that. |
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Ouiser
Ancient Ancestor of Pea
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uhmm yes, maybe we should divide it 3 ways. Those that don't want to have guns any where around them. Those of us who do have guns and are responsible owners and then the other third, throw all the extremists from both sides in it. You know - those that think that everyone that owns a gun is a redneck itching to shoot something or those that stroll in to pennys with it over their shoulder. |
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lovemybabes
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My husband is a conceal & carry guy... and we own guns... and we are not batshit crazy gun toting fools.
 I think we have a right to protect ourselves. I believe in super tough back ground checks.
I like Lauren's division. LOL... |
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SueSume
AncestralPea
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 2:15:01 PM
Ok, divide away.
Is it gonna be like a playgound pick? Who gets to go first?
(and, more importantly, who's gonna get stuck with FLORIDA?)
Just pullin' your leg, Florida |
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cindosha
StuckOnPeas
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Count me on the side where you work for a living without a government handout and where people don't need assault weapons to feel validated.
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*Kath*
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 2:17:18 PM
I can't decide if I want to live in Trollie's country or Lauren's. 
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mirabelleswalker
My president has 6-pack abs.
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 2:19:28 PM
As long as I don't have to move, that's fine by me. |
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Dalai Mama
La Pea Boheme
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 2:21:44 PM
(and, more importantly, who's gonna get stuck with FLORIDA?)
I think it's still going to belong to Canada? |
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Donna in GA
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 4:38:22 PM
I like Lauren's idea!
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ePEAcenter
BucketHead
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Oh, yes. I'm always in favor of secession plans.
I'm gonna bet that the same states that are full of batshit crazy gun wielding conservatives are also the same economies that are growing, and have lower unemployment, lower crime rates and lower divorce rates.
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PeaFixture
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 5:10:55 PM
I think the country started becoming divided 4 years ago.
Laurie, I'll agree with you, but probably for different reasons that you would probably suggest. |
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Mrs_Tyler
Sorting Laundry
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 5:16:15 PM
I want to divide the country along the lines of those who want to pay more taxes, have more spending, more debt etc on one side and those who believe in fiscal responsibility on the other. Sounds like a win-win to me.
I'm for this type of division. The ones willing to have a government budget that is followed responsibly can come live with me (since I like where I live and not want to move). And I'm willing to bet that we'd also be the side with responsible citizens who appreciate and practice their 2nd Amendment rights without overreacting... | |
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eebud
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 5:32:37 PM
I can't decide if I want to live in Trollie's country or Lauren's.
No question for me.............I'll live in Lauren's country. |
 
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I pick Lauren's version! | |
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 5:40:51 PM
I can't decide if I want to live in Trollie's country or Lauren's.
I'd pick Trollie's and I'd pay extra taxes to make it happen. |
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I-95
It's all just nonsense anyway!
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July 2003
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I want to divide the country along the lines of those who want to pay more taxes, have more spending, more debt etc on one side and those who believe in fiscal responsibility on the other. Sounds like a win-win to me.
Sounds like a Red States/Blue States division....that works for me. We'll keep all the Blue States...wait, didn't we have this discussion already? | |
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huskergal
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 5:46:54 PM
Sounds like a Red States/Blue States division....that works for me. We'll keep all the Blue States...wait, didn't we have this discussion already?
That would probably split those that pay more in taxes from those that receive more in aid. That is pretty much red and blue too. Guess where the red states fall? |
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I-95
It's all just nonsense anyway!
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 5:51:56 PM
Just to make it clear what we're each getting....
Dear Red States:
We’ve decided we’re leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we’re taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren’t aware, that includes:
California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.
To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss. We get 85 percent of America’s venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share.
Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition’s, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms. Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war.
With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country’s fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95 percent of America’s quality wines, 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford, Berkeley, Cal Tech and MIT. With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia. We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.
Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the war, the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you wackos believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties.
Finally, we’re taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt weed they grow in Mexico.
Peace out,
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BucketHead
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My husband is a conceal & carry guy... and we own guns... and we are not batshit crazy gun toting fools.
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BucketHead
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 6:12:36 PM
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*Kath*
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 6:12:50 PM
A more accurate representation would be counties, not states.
And looking at a county voting map of the United States in 2012, the blue counties wouldn't be left with much land. Red side would be about 85% to 15% blue side. Blue side being one big metropolitan paradise.
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huskergal
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 6:13:03 PM
I will happily move to the blue state country. |
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Maryland
Ancient Ancestor of Pea
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 7:12:35 PM
I want no guns, low taxes and low spending AND want to live in North Carolina or Florida!! I am an anti-gun Republican!! | |
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kmoller
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 7:33:43 PM
Since the 2nd amendment was adopted in 1791 then I think that the guns that were available at that point in time are the only ones that people should be allowed to own and carry. Then we'll see exactly how many people still want a gun, with muzzle and flintlock... No need to worry about cutting the country in two or dividing it between red and blue. My comments are in jest, but I certainly don't think when the amendment was written that they were thinking of individuals arming themselves with today's weapons of war. In the future it will be laser guns or vaporizer guns that will be added to the list... | |
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 7:38:17 PM
Where does this idea that we divide by "state" come from. I'm from NY, one of the most traditionally "blue" states around. BUT, there are many, many of us "reds" here. We're the hard-working productive people living in areas outside of metropolitan NY.
No, I see us dividing by individuals, not by states. States do not represent all of us, and at times, don't represent as much as 49% of us, as can be seen by the fact that Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton were "elected".
No, the blues get half the land and any of the people who want to go and the reds get the same. Everyone takes their own property and their own businesses with them. We divide up the assets owned by the federal government. I'll take the reds as I have far more confidence in their ability, as a whole, to support themselves and their children and to make a go at a productive life. |
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Mrs_Tyler
Sorting Laundry
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 7:44:37 PM
Since the 2nd amendment was adopted in 1791 then I think that the guns that were available at that point in time are the only ones that people should be allowed to own and carry.
Since the 1st Amendment was ratified in 1791 then I think that the religious groups that existed in the US and the forms of communication and press that were available at that point in time are the only ones that people should be allowed in the US.
Oh and since you and I are women, our opinions don't matter and the south can go back to slavery. If you're going to use that line of "logic" you gotta take it all the way or you're being a hypocrite. | |
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don92340
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 7:45:32 PM
Not once have I heard of an armed citizen using their weapon to stop a crime in progress except in their own home. | |
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AncestralPea
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 7:54:35 PM
I want my own island that belongs to no country. |
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sillymae
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:12:53 PM
What happens in the middle? Do the pro gun people and anti gun people just stare at each other? |
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Free~Bird
Honorary Bearcat!
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:17:40 PM
Dear Blue states:
Fine, take your toys and go home. But when you want to travel from western blue, to eastern blue, I'm afraid you'll have to take the long route because red states are now a no-fly zone.
That's pretty much the entire middle.
See ya later.
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:21:44 PM
there are many, many of us "reds" here. We're the hard-working productive people living in areas outside of metropolitan NY.
yes you asshole, only conservatives are hard working and productive. nevermind the fact that you are a small town hack divorce lawyer who spends a great deal of time arguing with people on an internet message board. You are complete scum lauren. | |
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:24:25 PM
FYI:
Maybe we shouldn't be talking about states, but talking about counties instead.
The country's not as blue as you might think/wish. |
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*Kath*
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:29:37 PM
What happens in the middle? Do the pro gun people and anti gun people just stare at each other?
Well, if we split it right down the middle in Kansas, nobody will be there anyway, just rows of corn.
I propose the red side take the high road and offer the eastern half of the United States to the blues. It's lovely country, quite pretty.
Trust me when I tell you that Colorado, which would be on the red side, is way overrated. Beetles are eating the forest, raging wildfires, tornadoes. We'll take this beetle-eaten charred tornado hole and the blues can have lovely Florida, as others have mentioned earlier, very nice. Good deal.
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freecharlie
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:37:04 PM
I'm gonna bet that the same states that are full of batshit crazy gun wielding conservatives are also the same economies that are growing, and have lower unemployment, lower crime rates and lower divorce rates.
And you would be wrong.
Bat shit crazies = south and red states = high un or underemployment. As for crime rate, it depends on the type of crime, but the highest violent crime states are predominately red states and from the few google sites I've looked at, it seems the same for divorce. |
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I-95
It's all just nonsense anyway!
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:38:14 PM
Gee, with all those red counties, you guys still couldn't elect a President? The country is not as red as you might think/wish | |
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freecharlie
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:45:41 PM
Well in Colorado, the blue areas are way more populated than the red. |
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:47:01 PM
if you adjust the by county electoral map by population, you get a less dichotomous result : http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/ | |
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SueSume
AncestralPea
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:51:11 PM
Looking at FreeBirds county/color map: those poor forlorn reds in the middle of Maine are gonna need safe passage...
But, honestly, some of my best friends own guns. ( I like 'em any way) Of those, some pay taxes. (I like 'em anyway) I know some people who actually ENJOY Florida
( but I like them anyway)
When did we decide that we don't need the red, the blues and the whites? |
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Words are hard.-Hannah Kelly
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:53:38 PM
Don't be dragging your raggedy blue butts over to the red section in a zombie apocolypse just because we have guns to protect you. Unless you want to be bait.
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PeaFixture
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:54:41 PM
Gee, with all those red counties, you guys still couldn't elect a President?
Bah! |
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freecharlie
Is the pool open yet?
PeaNut 109,127
September 2003
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:54:53 PM
DH and I own guns, pay taxes, and like to go to the beaches in Florida on the Gulf side. We also lean way left socially (me more them him)
I'm gonna get stuck in purgatory or something, aren't I? |
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 8:56:46 PM
Don't be dragging your raggedy blue butts over to the red section in a zombie apocolypse just because we have guns to protect you. Unless you want to be bait.
Bwahhhhaaa.
My problem is I am in favor of gun regulation, but I want to live in the red portion. In the end, I think the reds will have more financial stability. But I want to live where you live, BF, and others like you. If that means people own guns, I can live with that. |
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BucketHead
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| Posted: 1/20/2013 9:06:21 PM
ya the red states are the economic engine of america
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ETA* I thought that the Red states are also the poorest, so they already pay fewer taxes, no?
And I believe that they also receive far more federal assistance, you know, those awful entitlement programs, than they actually fund. I believe it was Chris Christie who mentioned that NY and NJ, which are heavily blue states pay far more in taxes than they receive in handouts.
I am really feeling like there is no where for true moderates to belong in anyone's dream scenario anymore than there is in reality. Anyone want to start a nice moderate island with me? | |
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AncestralPea
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Anyone want to start a nice moderate island with me?
I'd ask you to join me on mine, but we haven't established an immigration policy beyond go away. |
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