What irritates you most at the airport/on the plane?
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Posted: 1/29/2013 8:52:28 PM

People, open up to the universe. Well, the poor lady next to me on the second leg of the flight spilled her soul about her drug addicted son. I still worry about her. Imagine needing to talk to someone so badly that you'd open up to a stranger on an airplane.


Oh Sharla, when I worked retail (for years and years) people would tell me all kinds of crazy crap. I always felt bad for them because I figured they had no one in their life to share this info with. But it's not uncommon. I can totally see someone opening up to you, just based on your personality here.



To the seat recliners... Go ahead and recline, I can't stop you, but don't get pissed when I kick the crap out of your seat. If you recline just a tad, I'm ok. If you recline it the full way, I will make sure you don't sleep. It's rude! I don't want your smelly, dirty head in my lap.


Mature.

Honestly, the peas come up with the weirdest stuff to get bent about. I think this falls into the category of stuff that no one in real life even thinks about.

There's very little that annoys me when flying because I love it so much.

I do have a couple of examples that I'll share, just because it's fun.

We used to always take the first flight out of SeaTac in the morning. This was back before 9/11, so there were dozens of flight and the first was usually at like 5:45 am or some god awful time. I vividly remember getting on the plane and trying to go back to sleep, only to have these cheerful a-holes in the row ahead of my LOUDLY CHATTING EACH OTHER UP FOR THE DURATION OF THE FLIGHT. LIKE FROM THE TIME WE TOOK OFF UNTIL WE LANDED. THEY WERE TRAVELING TOGETHER FOR WORK!!! ISN'T IT EXCITING!! WAIT, I'M GETTING A CALL! (before we took off, and right when we landed) GOTTA TAKE THIS! BLAH BLAH SPIFFY BLAH BLAH BLAH. I'M AN INCONSIDERATE A-HOLE BLAH BLAH.

Shut. Up. And try to be aware of the people around you who are trying to sleep. You sound like an ass and you're not representing your employer very well by disrupting the entire plane.

BUT THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED!!

So anyway, my friends and I, sometime when we're travelling early, we always try to keep it down because we're trying to be considerate, but we're so excited to be travelling. Anyway, at some point, one of us will say to the others, "Shhhh! Don't be the annoying happy people on the plane! LOL!" and then we'll burst into a fit of giggles and try to quietly shut up.

Another time, it was an early, early flight. I was traveling with SIL and Step-MIL. We were all three in one row.

The FA asked me to change seats to accommodate a family (They wanted to be 4 across. Three on one side, one across the aisle.) Even thought it was a long flight, I said fine.

So I gather all my crap and move.

Settle into my next seat. Fall asleep.

I kid you not--- a couple minutes later, the FA wakes me up and asks me to move to accommodate another family!!!! Swear to god.

I look her right in the eye and go, "Sure. Why not. I've already been separated from my family. Why not do it again!"

Sheesh. Why in the world would you pick the person who is sound asleep and make them move (twice)??? Ugh.

Anyway, other than a couple of specific times, I love flying.


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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:14:26 PM

Knowing that if you do something, it could possibly hurt or at least bother the people behind you and doing it anyway, is rude.


It actually doesn't matter how many times you say it - it doesn't make it true. When one uses an item as it is designed and advertised to be used, they are not being rude - even if someone is bothered by said use.

My last flight involved a woman across the aisle who could not fit easily in the seat without the arm rest being raised. She raised the armrest as soon as she sat down. I'm sure she was quite bothered that the person next to her wouldn't leave the armrest down - and was certainly in pain with it digging into her person. That doesn't make the person who uses the armrest rude.


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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:20:10 PM
Hands down people who bring on large suitcases and hold everyone up trying to find a spot overhead on a crowded plane.Then when the plane lands they have to disrupt deplaning while they go against the flow of traffic to retrieve their bag.
We travel for pleasure a lot and always check our bags and bring a small carry on. I realize some people don't want to pay the extra $ to check or don't have the flight status to receive a free bag check and others don't want to wait at baggage claim but it is my pet peeve.


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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:47:54 PM

Honestly, the peas come up with the weirdest stuff to get bent about. I think this falls into the category of stuff that no one in real life even thinks about.
There is a USA TODAY/TripAdvisor survey that drew more than 6,500 responses that says otherwise. And that's just one place. Google and you'll see lots of people are talking about it. Everywhere.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:51:03 PM

and was certainly in pain with it digging into her person. That doesn't make the person who uses the armrest rude.
Darcy, I don't see how you can argue that doing something that puts another person in pain, just because you can, isn't rude.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:57:49 PM
My cell phone is designed to receive calls and texts at any time. But you would think I was rude if I answered a call while watching a movie.

Being polite is the act of taking other people's feelings and comfort into consideration with your actions. It's polite to hold open a door, it's polite to put your cell phone away when you're out with friends and its polite to check when you recline to make sure you aren't hurting the person behind you.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 10:01:36 PM
I am not going to ask permission to do something that I am entitled to do. I purchased a seat just like you did, and I'm entitled to whatever amenities (if reclining 2 inches counts as an amenity) that purchase includes.

YOU are being rude by expecting people to hold off on doing something they've paid for because it upsets you.

The simplest way to solve this problem is to purchase a seat in Business or First class, where you have plenty more room than in coach. If you don't wish to do it, then suck it up, buttercup, because the world does not revolve around you. Someone choosing to recline their seat is not rude, and does not excuse honest to goodness rudeness in return (kicking and pulling the seat in front of you).

Also, what airlines are you people flying that these seats recline so far that the person in front of you is in your lap?

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Posted: 1/29/2013 10:11:16 PM

My cell phone is designed to receive calls and texts at any time. But you would think I was rude if I answered a call while watching a movie.
Great point momofkandn.

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Posted: 1/29/2013 10:37:12 PM
Would someone PLEASE post the names of the airlines with the practically "lie flat" seats in coach class? I travel extensively, both domestically and internationally. I have not had a coach seat recline more than a couple of inches in many years. I am apparently not flying the right airlines.

I recline my seat. It is a function of the seat that I pay for. I do bring my seat forward during mealtimes. But as soon as the trays are cleared, you can bet I will be reclined once more. If the amount of space you have in regular coach isn't enough, then you need to cough up the extra money for economy+, bulkhead/exit row seats, or pay for upgraded tickets to Business/First.

And whatever you do, don't fly Air Malta. The seats on that airline as so close together that the headrest in front of you is in your face while in upright position!


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Posted: 1/30/2013 2:32:11 AM

It's polite to hold open a door, it's polite to put your cell phone away when you're out with friends and its polite to check when you recline to make sure you aren't hurting the person behind you.


I doubt anyone here would intentionally hurt anyone else but I think *most* people are really talking about having a little less personal space in front of them, rather than suffering pain. As I said earlier if the person behind me told me (politely!!) that I was causing them pain I wouldn't recline my seat - of course! But I just don't see it as impolite to use the service the airline provided and I paid for.

But asking me to forgo a service I'd paid for because it inconveniences you is rude and expectational.

It really does come down to choice - if you find space too cramped you need to choose to fly with an airline that provides more - not expect everyone else to curtail their experience and comfort on your behalf.


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Posted: 1/30/2013 2:57:38 AM
I think maybe some folks are taking this thread a little too seriously.

When I posted my pet peeves, or irritations about airports and airplanes, back when the thread started, they were things that are just that, pet peeves. In a perfect world, the airlines would all provide enough space so everybody could recline their seats and nobody would be inconvenienced. People in group 6 would wait politely while the those in groups 1-5 boarded. Checked baggage would be free and nobody would be forced to carry on their huge heavy bags.

However, the world is not perfect and these things are MINOR irritations. I don't like being in coach where the seats are too close together for anyone to be really comfortable on a long flight, but I know what the deal is, so I deal with it. I would never kick anyone's seat, or deliberately do anything to annoy them. I generally prefer to sleep or work on a flight, but if someone starts a conversation, I'll talk back to them. I've actually met some really interesting people on flights.

The OP asked what irritated people most...folks have responded, but If everyone was seriously POed at all these little inconveniences, there would be a lot of angry people filling the airplane, and frankly, I don't see that happening. Most people are nice and like me, they're just trying to get from point A to point B, with as little fuss as they can.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 3:04:40 AM
Agreed


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Posted: 1/30/2013 6:21:06 AM

My cell phone is designed to receive calls and texts at any time. But you would think I was rude if I answered a call while watching a movie.

No, big difference here, because the movie theater always runs a "TURN OFF YOUR CELL PHONE" promo on the screen. So THEY'RE telling you to shut it off. Comparing recling your plane seat to answering your cell phone in a theater are two total different things.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 6:42:38 AM
My biggest pet peeve: people standing right up to the luggage carousel and crowding it. Then, when I spot my luggage I have to squeeze past them and try to get it before its no longer within my reach and other people are blocking me. So annoying. If people would just all stand back and only move to the carousel when their luggage is spotted... So much easier. It's not like being closer makes your luggage come out faster.

As for seats reclining, it bothers me in the same way someone sitting right in front or next to me at a pretty empty movie would. Except, I understand reclining seats a lot more. I tend to not recline, but when I do I usually check if the person behind me is reclined and if they aren't, I won't.

I was on a flight where the lady had two seats. (The one next to her was empty) she reclined both seats, but sat up in her seat most of the flight. That annoyed me to no end. She also had bulkhead, which added to my frustration. Her traveling partner was in the aisle seat across the aisle from her. I felt bad for the people sitting with him. Two bigger people with a lap baby. No one was doing anything wrong, but it was a sucky situation for everyone but the lady with two seats.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 6:48:50 AM
Is anyone else seeing the correlation between those that vehemently defend their "right to recline" (I bought my ticket and if I want to recline my seat, I will) are the same ones that are complaining about talkers? (I bought my ticket and if I want to talk, I will).

tee hee.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 6:48:59 AM

No, big difference here, because the movie theater always runs a "TURN OFF YOUR CELL PHONE" promo on the screen. So THEY'RE telling you to shut it off. Comparing recling your plane seat to answering your cell phone in a theater are two total different things.


Ok, so how about when a friend takes you out to dinner. It would be rude to use the phone then wouldn't it?

Look, I was just reacting to the several posts that stated they were entitled to recline the seat because they paid for it. They are right. But just because you are entitled to do something doesn't mean that you should do it in all cases. If you notice that the space on the plane is so small that reclining your seat puts your head in the lap of the person behind you, would it kill you show a little kindness and keep your seat up? I think this world would be more pleasant if people were kinder and more polite to each other.

I was on a Virgin airlines flight from London to Dulles. The coach section seats were so close together that if the person in front of you reclined, then you couldn't see your individual TV screen that was in the seat in front of you. So who's right in this situation? I paid for my seat that comes with a TV screen and the person in front of me paid for their seat that reclines. We are both entitled to what we paid for. But we both can't get what we are entitled to because of the design of the plane. Yes, its the airlines' fault. But what do we do once we are there stuck on the plane together. When I noticed the issue, I decided to be nice to the person behind me and not recline my seat. I did not ask the person in front of me to move their seat up. And I didn't think they were rude for reclining it. But it would have been nice if he did the same for me that I did for the person behind me.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 7:16:59 AM

My cell phone is designed to receive calls and texts at any time. But you would think I was rude if I answered a call while watching a movie.
Reclining seats are provided by the airline for use during flights. If the theatre (or the restaurant in the most recent example) were providing the cell phone for use during the movie, it would be a valid comparison.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 7:20:55 AM
Then you all should take it up with the airlines. If someone purchases a ticket, then they have the right to recline because the chair does just that. The only ones who can change it are the airlines.

Frankly, everytime I fly, I always see numerous people reclining, and I don't see anyone complaining or whining about it. Just here on 2Peas.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 7:24:34 AM
I hate recliners, but I don't grouse about it because it's part of what the chair is for. I mostly hate it because it means I can't use my macbook. Was it ever explained why using laptops infringe on others?

I get annoyed by parents who let their kids run around the airport and slooooooooooooooow people. I understand why they do, I just don't like it.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 7:35:43 AM

and was certainly in pain with it digging into her person. That doesn't make the person who uses the armrest rude.
Darcy, I don't see how you can argue that doing something that puts another person in pain, just because you can, isn't rude.


I mean this in the nicest way possible, but if you are unable to physically fit into a standard seat then you need to pay for a bigger seat. It is rude for you to expect others to accommodate you at their own expense when it is your fault you don't fit into the seat!
We all pay for the same seat, we have the same reclining abilities and the same amount of legroom. If this set-up is causing you pain or discomfort, then it's on you, not on other passengers, to make accommodations for your comfort and choose a bigger seat or a different airline.

P.S. travelling in stressful as is. As long as my plane gets to its destination on time, in one piece, and my luggage is not lost, I consider it a win. If people talk to me I put on headphones. If someone's feet smell I put a scarf over my nose. The only thing I won't tolerate is kicking my chair and pulling yourself up by the back of the seat. Oh, and please don't stick your smelly feet inbetween the seats in front of you to the point where I can see them. That's just ridiculous and I will whack your foot with a magazine. Other than that, I consider everything else a part of air travel and just deal with it.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 7:39:02 AM
One time DH was on a really rough flight from Florida to Chicago. So rough that the flight attendants were strapped in most of the time.

Well, it was for business and he didn't get to choose his seat and it was a full flight. He was stuck in the very back row, which does not recline.

The guy in the seat in front of him reclines.

DH gets queasy. He gets out the airbag. He has it in front of him and it brushes the dude's head.

Guy turns around and gives him a really dirty look.

DH says. "Look, I'm going to get sick. You can either move, or you're going to get wet."

Guess who moved?

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Posted: 1/30/2013 7:41:31 AM
All my years of business travel have made me a pretty easygoing traveler. Commercial air travel is usually uncomfortable for everyone involved, and I figure we're all just trying to make the best of a bad situation.


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Posted: 1/30/2013 8:10:51 AM

Lauren, my DD and I bother no one. She's an experienced flier. We started when she was 4 weeks old. She plugs in her earphones and you do not hear a peep out of her except to tell us what she wants to drink.

I understand people asking once if we want to trade. I even appreciate it. However when we say no thanks, the huffs, muttering, dirty looks, and carry on banging start. Same when DH and I book two aisle seats across from each other. The minute the person in the middle realizes we're together, they some how think we'll jump at the change to trade and get irate when we say no thanks.

I've never had a seat I booked randomly changed. I have changed seats at the request of the gate agent or FA to accommodate families if I was in the mood. But most of the time I get stuck In the middle of two large or smelly strangers. Not my cup of tea. So I usually decline the request.


So you would rather have a large, smelly stanger sitting in between you and your daughter? I find it really odd that you would chose to have a stranger in the middle seat. If I came upon that situation I would instantly offer to change seats, thinking there had been some mix up with the tickets and you get upset because people ask?.
I also think it is very selfish to book a window and aisle seat, if you need the aisle seat then your daughter should be next to you.
You sound like a nightmare mother who needs the best for her special snowflake!

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Posted: 1/30/2013 8:25:19 AM

So you would rather have a large, smelly stanger sitting in between you and your daughter? I find it really odd that you would chose to have a stranger in the middle seat. If I came upon that situation I would instantly offer to change seats, thinking there had been some mix up with the tickets and you get upset because people ask?.
I also think it is very selfish to book a window and aisle seat, if you need the aisle seat then your daughter should be next to you.
You sound like a nightmare mother who needs the best for her special snowflake!


And you sound like someone who is mad that they got stuck with a middle seat.

My DD likes the window because she likes to look out. I like the aisle because I'm a bit claustrophobic. If I book early enough to get a window/aisle combo, I'm going to do it. To bad, so sad for the person that books in the middle. They can book when I do and select an aisle or window if they prefer that. We don't bother anyone so I really don't see how this is selfish of me.

Middle seats usually fill last. So by booking an Aisle/window combo, sometimes we end up with an empty seat between us. Score! If I booked a window/middle, I'm almost certain to have someone in the aisle.


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Posted: 1/30/2013 8:39:28 AM
Aye, whatever, I never get the middle seat when travelling alone but you didn't answer my question. What happens if you get a smelly, old, fat, farting guy between you?

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Posted: 1/30/2013 8:49:23 AM
I dunno. It's never happened. For some reason, we usually get a woman between us. Sometimes a young woman in her 20s, sometimes an older woman. The younger women tend to read or tune out to music. The older ladies generally try to talk to DD (she's 7). DD is two feet from me. Nothing is going to happen without me seeing it.

We try to fly JetBlue which has individual tvs with Direct TV. DD puts on Nick and zones out. We don't have cable so this is a real treat for her. If we're not on JetBlue, she watches movies on my iPad.

I'm not totally heartless. If I saw a 6'5" guy like my older son trying to wedge himself in the middle, I'd probably offer up my aisle seat. But if he got all huffy and entitled, maybe not.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 10:04:02 AM

I also think it is very selfish to book a window and aisle seat, if you need the aisle seat then your daughter should be next to you.
You sound like a nightmare mother who needs the best for her special snowflake!



Oh my.

How, exactly, is it selfish to book your preferred seats when the option is available to you??

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Posted: 1/30/2013 10:44:36 AM
I have a bad knee. I will say that whenever's it's been acting up and I've had to fly, if first class is full, I've asked the person in front of me if they'd mind not reclining. To date, I've never had anyone refuse. They may not have been happy about it, but they did not recline.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 11:51:01 AM

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but if you are unable to physically fit into a standard seat then you need to pay for a bigger seat.
You do? Really? You're addressing that to me and you can can clearly see that it wasn't me with the issue of not being able to fit in the sit. It was said by someone else that I was responding to. And they weren't even talking about themselves. It was something they observed. But go ahead and lecture me that if I'm too fat to fit in the seat that I need to buy a bigger seat.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 12:42:55 PM

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but if you are unable to physically fit into a standard seat then you need to pay for a bigger seat.
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You do? Really? You're addressing that to me and you can can clearly see that it wasn't me with the issue of not being able to fit in the sit. It was said by someone else that I was responding to. And they weren't even talking about themselves. It was something they observed. But go ahead and lecture me that if I'm too fat to fit in the seat that I need to buy a bigger seat


General you, not specific you, was I'm sure what she meant


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Posted: 1/30/2013 12:45:46 PM
I am irritated about policies that allow people to fly with animals as carry ons. My daughter and I both have severe cat allergies and the presence of a cat on a plane makes both of us quite ill. You can request a peanut free flight if you have nut allergies and the airline will comply, but you can't request a cat free flight. The last time this happened my daughter was traveling for an audition. She arrived at her destination sick and had to take medication that made her extremely drowsy on one of the most important days of her life.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:45:03 PM

You can request a peanut free flight if you have nut allergies and the airline will comply, but you can't request a cat free flight.
I'd be seriously messed up if I was enclosed with a cat nearby for the duration of a flight. I'm pretty darned allergic.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 1:56:06 PM
People who bring carry-ons that won't fit in the overhead compartment, so they have to get a green tag or whatever so their luggage is last on the plane and first off. Invariably there's all this crap piled up in that accordion hallway right at the entrance to the plane that you have to maneuver around. Then at the end of the flight, we're standing there waiting for Joe Schmo to figure out which of the 27 black bags in the hallway actually belongs to him or we're all tripping over each other to get around him.

I think they should make those passengers wait outside the gate to get their bags until everyone else is off the plane.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 2:00:10 PM

Ok, so how about when a friend takes you out to dinner. It would be rude to use the phone then wouldn't it?


Yes, becuase the expectation for that dinner is that you socialize with each other. Not a good comparison, since on a flight where seats recline, the expectation is that you recline your seat.




I mean this in the nicest way possible, but if you are unable to physically fit into a standard seat then you need to pay for a bigger seat. It is rude for you to expect others to accommodate you at their own expense when it is your fault you don't fit into the seat!
We all pay for the same seat, we have the same reclining abilities and the same amount of legroom. If this set-up is causing you pain or discomfort, then it's on you, not on other passengers, to make accommodations for your comfort and choose a bigger seat or a different airline.


I agree with this as well. In the example someone used of the large person who was in pain due to the armrest - what was the alternative? That they didn't use the armrest, and then the large person would be partially in the other passenger's seat? That whey would basically be sitting right next to each other with no distance or barrier between them? I don't know about you, but I would NOT be comofrtable sitting in full contact next to someone I don't even know for hours on end. I like my personal space...and I paid for it, when I bought my airline ticket.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 2:27:27 PM
I thank the good Lord above that I have flown with really nice people in my 25 years of business travel.

I do believe it was possible I sat behind a Pea on a flight home from Philly once about three years ago. She proceeded to recline her seat back during taxi upon departure. When the stewardess asked her to sit in the upright position the woman was belligerent about having to be "uncomfortable" and that she "paid for the seat" and she was "going to recline it because I can". The steward came by right after take-off and did something to the back of her seat - it wouldn't recline for the remaining three hours of the flight.

As for trying to identify your bag amongst all the black bags out there in airports - below is a picture of what a work colleague did to his black suitcase:


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Posted: 1/30/2013 2:43:39 PM

I am not going to ask permission to do something that I am entitled to do. I purchased a seat just like you did, and I'm entitled to whatever amenities (if reclining 2 inches counts as an amenity) that purchase includes.


Yes, you are entitled as you say. Which seems to be the issue. We as a society have certainly moved to entitlement thinking at the expense of consideration to other human beings. It is close, cramped quarters, and people should be aware and considerate.

Of course it isn't all the recliners fault either. The seats in general have moved from 4" to 5" closer together (pitch). Also some seats recline more than others. The low end is 2" and can go up from there. A lot of major carriers are 3" to 3.5". When you add the increased recline space with the closer pitch of the seats you have a very difficult and potentially painful flight for the person in the back.

You have to be able to readjust your posture every so often to be comfortable. Otherwise you are at risk of deep vein thrombosis (blood clots).

I don't think it is unreasonable to ask the flying public in general to be considerate of those around them. Your entitlement could be at the expense of the health of those around you.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 2:50:54 PM

You have to be able to readjust your posture every so often to be comfortable. Otherwise you are at risk of deep vein thrombosis (blood clots).

I don't think it is unreasonable to ask the flying public in general to be considerate of those around them. Your entitlement could be at the expense of the health of those around you.


Oh, goodness. So now people who recline their seats are responsible for death by blood clot. Hysterical!

I actually fly business class most of the time, so reclining isn't an issue for me personally. If you don't want to deal with the problems in coach, pay for an upgrade. And seriously - I flew coach last year because I was on a short (2 hour) flight, and my seat couldn't have reclined more than 2 or 3 inches. What airlines are you flying? I'm not being snarky. I can't say I've ever seen a coach seat that reclines so far that the evil recliner is in another person's lap.

I think that people who expect others to not do what their seats are designed to do are the entitled ones. Reclining your seat is allowed by the airlines. It's a miniscule comfort that your purchase of a ticket entitles you to. More leg room is a comfort that paying for an upgrade entitles you to. If you want more room, pay for it or deal with the fact that traveling like a sardine is par for the course in coach.

A few people on this thread admitted to poking, kicking and pulling the seat in front of them to antagonize someone who would dare recline. Quite entitled and childish if you ask me.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 2:59:17 PM

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but if you are unable to physically fit into a standard seat then you need to pay for a bigger seat.
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You do? Really? You're addressing that to me and you can can clearly see that it wasn't me with the issue of not being able to fit in the sit. It was said by someone else that I was responding to. And they weren't even talking about themselves. It was something they observed. But go ahead and lecture me that if I'm too fat to fit in the seat that I need to buy a bigger seat


General you, not specific you, was I'm sure what she meant


Thank you, gar!
Of course I meant the general "you." I've been in this thread for a while, I quoted you both, so I didn't realize I have to actually spell it out. But regardless, why so freaking defensive? Geez.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 3:03:09 PM
Well, I might be a "nightmare mother" coddling my special snowflake DD but I ain't no seat recliner or overhead bin hog!

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Posted: 1/30/2013 3:09:52 PM
I don't recline my seat when I fly. Never have. But what I don't understand is why, before you recline your seat, you don't take a quick look and see who is behind you. If its some short small person then recline it but if it looks like it might smash somone's knees why do you need to recline your seat and cause someone discomfort for 5 or 6 hours. Whatever happened to showing some consideration to your fellow passengers? To me its nothing but me me me attitude.

For the record, I have 90 minute bus ride to and from work. The buses have reclining seats. I do recline my seat on the bus. But I always look behind to see who is sitting there and if I think I'll smash their knees then I don't put the seat back. And its no biggie.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 3:28:21 PM

I don't recline my seat when I fly. Never have. But what I don't understand is why, before you recline your seat, you don't take a quick look and see who is behind you. If its some short small person then recline it but if it looks like it might smash somone's knees why do you need to recline your seat and cause someone discomfort for 5 or 6 hours. Whatever happened to showing some consideration to your fellow passengers? To me its nothing but me me me attitude.


And why are you so certain that the person in front of you doesn't have issues that make reclining a necessity for them?

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Posted: 1/30/2013 3:32:26 PM

People who bring carry-ons that won't fit in the overhead compartment, so they have to get a green tag or whatever so their luggage is last on the plane and first off. Invariably there's all this crap piled up in that accordion hallway right at the entrance to the plane that you have to maneuver around. Then at the end of the flight, we're standing there waiting for Joe Schmo to figure out which of the 27 black bags in the hallway actually belongs to him or we're all tripping over each other to get around him.


I have never been asked to gate check because my bag was too big (at least not according to airline standards), but I have often been asked to gate check. This may be a particular hazard of flying out of a small airport that has mostly small planes. Often, it is everyone after a certain point in line. On a flight from Dallas to San Francisco last week, from what I could tell, everyone in economy was asked to gate check.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 3:43:16 PM

And why are you so certain that the person in front of you doesn't have issues that make reclining a necessity for them?


Ah I see you're part of the "me me me" crowd.

I doubt that is the case but if it is just say to the person behind you "do you mind if recline the chair". Simple. Its just called common courtesy on crowded planes.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 3:49:03 PM

Ah I see you're part of the "me me me" crowd.

I doubt that is the case but if it is just say to the person behind you "do you mind if recline the chair". Simple. Its just called common courtesy on crowded planes.


And I see you're part of the "can't be bothered to read all the posts crowd."

I rarely fly coach, so this isn't an issue for me. I just find it really odd (and kind of amusing) that so many of you take seat reclining so personally. The seats recline for a reason. Someone choosing to recline during a flight isn't about YOU; why would you presume that another adult has to ask you permission to do something their seat is designed to do?

Take it up with the airline or purchase an upgraded seat if this is such a huge issue for you. Of course, you feel that your comfort is more important than that of the person in front of you, so all of this is falling on deaf ears.

And, though it's been asked about a million times on this thread already: what airlines are you people flying on that the seats recline so dramatically as to interfere with the person behind them? I am reading all this talk of people's heads being in other people's laps, and that just doesn't agree with any of the commercial flights I've been on recently.


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Posted: 1/30/2013 4:30:55 PM
Sitting on the wing! I took my grandson on a trip--we were armed with DVDs, a player, and earbuds. Couldn't hear a thing. Now I know to get the sound blocking kind of headphones before our next flight. He was really good even without the entertainment (we played cards and I read to him, quietly). He's a great traveling companion--flying or driving.

On the second leg of our trip we sat on the tarmac for about an hour wondering what was going on. Turns out the baggage handlers' shift ended so they left without loading all the baggage. Weird. The pilot was pissed--he was a nice guy though, let my DGS sit in the cockpit after our flight. It was a small plane.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 4:35:15 PM
Oh-- the WORST is when you sit on the tarmac with the engines going, and you can smell the exhaust! That makes me so nauseous!

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Posted: 1/30/2013 8:23:11 PM

Oh-- the WORST is when you sit on the tarmac with the engines going, and you can smell the exhaust! That makes me so nauseous!



Oh that would be me!!

I wish...I really wish...I could book the exit seats prior to getting to the airport. That's my gripe. Love sitting in them.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 9:40:58 PM
Perhaps everyone should just recline their chairs.

That would be comical to see, though, wouldn't it? If someday an entire flight decides to recline for the duration.

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Posted: 1/30/2013 9:52:25 PM
Honestly until the reclining issue came up on 2peas, I had never thought about it. I reclined or the person in front of my reclined it didn't even register that it may or may not be rude. The button was there and I pushed it.


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Posted: 1/31/2013 11:16:36 AM

why would you presume that another adult has to ask you permission to do something their seat is designed to do?


Because as you said, you are an adult. One who is aware of others around you. Or should be.
You are now aware that doing so could cause someone's knees to be shoved into your seatback, causing them pain. You are aware that people can't use their laptops when you're reclined, some have even had them broken when they're being used and you recline without warning. Or their drink dumped in their lap. Because you are aware and asking if it will be a problem is being an adult and being considerate of those around you.
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