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Posted: 2/1/2013 4:49:36 PM
on most flights, they will book a tall passenger in the bulkhead or exit row provided that you show up early to check in. short people in those seats should be thrown off the plane.

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Posted: 2/1/2013 5:00:30 PM
Until we as the buying public demand more space between seats this will keep happening. I fly United, Continental, Cathy Pacific, Hong Kong Air, Jet Blue and Southwest. By far the worst is United. They have only 31" pitch between seats. That is measured from point on one seat to same point on other seat. That is just a little over 2.5' which generally leaves only 5" to 6" inches for you legs. When someone moves back 2-3 inches that doesn't leave you much room.

Luckily I fly enough I get a lot of free upgrades but have had to book many last minute flights to Asia and can't get any upgrade even if I pay for it.

It is horrible to be stuck in a 15 hour flight with the seat in front of you reclined. United has everyone put their seat up when serving meals because no one can eat with that little space.

As many others have said a little courtesy goes a long way.

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Posted: 2/1/2013 5:21:34 PM

short people in those seats should be thrown off the plane.


But Oblio...I'm entitled

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Posted: 2/1/2013 8:40:46 PM
I swore to myself I wasn't going to reply to this thread again, but here it goes:

We have 3 airlines here. Southwest, United, and American.
Southwest is the only one with a big jet here. The other two are small planes only...you know where you can't even stand up straight because you will bonk your head, the one where there is 1 seat on one side and 2 on the other, the one where there isn't a first class or any other seat upgrade, the one where the seats are so close together that if you are reclined, you are in my lap and I can't stand up to go to the bathroom without asking you to sit up. The one where there is only an overhead bin on one side of the plane.

FTR, I don't recline, the angle hurts my back, but I wouldn't recline anyway. I'm not going to try and stop you from reclining, because you do have that right. If you're asleep and I can't get out, I will wake you up. I have never asked anyone in front of me to not recline and I never will. I do ask that you check behind you before you push back. I really don't want your seat in my face if I'm bending over to get something out of my carry on that I am told to put under the seat in front of me.

Just got off of the United website booking a flight out of a different city. Noticed some seats say "limited recline" on them. You can bet I booked that one. First class was over $1200, no thank you! There was a picture of a person sitting on the plane with his tray table down and the seat in front of him was in the full upright position. The tray was very close to his stomach. I know that some trays slide forward, but thought it was funny that it was that close with the seat up.


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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:14:51 PM
oh, I have lots of pet peeves regarding flying. But this one bugs me the most: once we've landed, the people who stand up in the aisle immediately after the seat belt sign goes off and try to start pushing their way towards the front. Come on people, we all want to get off the plane, but let's be courteous and let those in front of us deplane first. It drives me crazy when people totally ignore those ahead of themselves


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Posted: 2/1/2013 9:17:39 PM

just wondering if the non recliners have ever flown a night flight for 9 hours in an upright position.?


i think that it is ok to recline on flights that are 9 hours or longer

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Posted: 2/2/2013 4:37:30 AM

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Plebe is also a derivative of plebeian and means first year, uneducated student.

In this context pleb is the correct usage.

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Posted: 2/2/2013 9:49:29 AM

If reclining is so important to you , WHY NOT JUST PURCHASE AN UPGRADED SEAT instead of expecting others who are in coach to sacrifice their comfort for your own?


This place is awesome. Why would this reclining person buy an upgraded seat? They are happy with their seat -- you're the one with an issue!


For those of you saying 'well, if this is a problem for you, go buy a first class ticket'.


Yes, I've seen this mentioned a lot. I don't usually recline, nor am I bothered by people that do, but I will at least mention the fact that about 50% of flying passengers are on business trips, and most companies won't allow their employees to book a first class trip, at least domestic travel. It may not be an option to upgrade. Very rarely do I see the option to pay for an upgrade anymore, because passengers with status get slotted into the open first class seats.


However, I've flown more than 2 million miles in the last 20 years, and I've never had a person ask me if they would mind if they reclined their seat, nor have I ever asked anyone to not recline, nor has anyone ever asked me not to recline.


I haven't flown that much - but I do fly 60+ times a year for the past 10 years, and I will ditto all of that. Never been asked. Never seen it be an issue on the flight. I'm convinced it's a Pea problem.



i've been in agony on long haul flights as some dumb entitled short bitch enjoys her luxurious exit seat.



Well that's unfortunate. It will hopefully piss you off further to know that I don't even have to rush to the airport to get that seat. I select it when I book my ticket. I have that privilege because I fly a hell of a lot more than you do. I've earned the right to have extra leg room, and I really could not care any less that it bothers you. And if I knew that you thought that made me a 'dumb bitch' I might stand up in all of my extra leg room and dance a little jig, just to piss you off.



So I'm guessing people who can't grab the exit seats are buying tickets on airlines that assign seating. You know, the ones where you pay a bunch of money for the privilege of having your seat reserved. And to fight for overhead bin space because you paid for a ticket that doesn't include 2 checked bags.


Yes, I purposefully do choose an airline that assigns seats. Then I don't have to worry about being near a computer 24 hours in advance to select a boarding number so I can have a good seat. But then, I also get to board before pretty much everybody else and put my bags where I want to, I can check 3 bags for free because of my status, and I often get a free upgrade to first class, so I don't have any of those complaints.



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Posted: 2/2/2013 11:43:52 AM
The ONLY thing that bugs me is when i get a seat next to someone who is sick and isnt trying to keep from spreading germs. Coughing everywhere, constantly blowing their nose, and all that. Now i understand stuff happens but please at least make sure your mouth is covered and you tissues are cleaned up. And hand sanitizer is your friend.


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Posted: 2/2/2013 11:50:36 AM

I've earned the right to have extra leg room, and I really could not care any less that it bothers you


it would probably bother you when i not so passively make your life a living hell on the flight, adjacent seat or not, asshole.

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Posted: 2/2/2013 11:54:15 AM

it would probably bother you when i not so passively make your life a living hell on the flight, adjacent seat or not, asshole.


What are your techniques for making her life a "living hell"?



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Posted: 2/2/2013 11:55:47 AM

it would probably bother you when i not so passively make your life a living hell on the flight, adjacent seat or not, asshole.


I'm the asshole? You have anger issues dude. You should consider finding a way to address them before your next 9 hour flight squeezed in a regular coach seat. It will make your own life less stressful We know you won't be in an adjacent seat since I will be enjoying the exit row.


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Posted: 2/2/2013 11:57:20 AM

I'm the asshole? You have anger issues dude. You should consider finding a way to address them before your next 9 hour flight squeezed in a regular coach seat. It will make your own life less stressful We know you won't be in an adjacent seat since I will be enjoying the exit row.


You're wrong...she plans to be throwing you off the airplane so she can have that exit row all to herself.



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Posted: 2/2/2013 12:20:29 PM
well i was mistaken, you do need that exit row since you have a crippling obesity disability.

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Posted: 2/2/2013 1:22:43 PM

on most flights, they will book a tall passenger in the bulkhead or exit row provided that you show up early to check in.


On what airlines are you flying? My DH is 6'3" and my boys are 6'2" and 6". They never get booked into those seats and because I am neurotic about the airport process, we are usually the first ones there for our flights.

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Posted: 2/2/2013 1:32:45 PM

Well that's unfortunate. It will hopefully piss you off further to know that I don't even have to rush to the airport to get that seat. I select it when I book my ticket. I have that privilege because I fly a hell of a lot more than you do. I've earned the right to have extra leg room, and I really could not care any less that it bothers you. And if I knew that you thought that made me a 'dumb bitch' I might stand up in all of my extra leg room and dance a little jig, just to piss you off.





Oblio....you're being nasty again But KAS is entitled...just like me

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Posted: 2/2/2013 1:34:25 PM

On what airlines are you flying? My DH is 6'3" and my boys are 6'2" and 6". They never get booked into those seats and because I am neurotic about the airport process, we are usually the first ones there for our flights.


I specifically ask for those seats...i've flown mutliple times in the exit rows of air canada, lufthansa, us airways, tam, american airlines, united

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Posted: 2/2/2013 1:36:05 PM

On what airlines are you flying? My DH is 6'3" and my boys are 6'2" and 6". They never get booked into those seats and because I am neurotic about the airport process, we are usually the first ones there for our flights.



Most of the major airlines block those seats, and offer the option to their top tier frequent fliers, at the time they make their reservations. If they are not reserved by FF, then the option is available to anyone who asks when they check in, but they are usually already spoken for long before the flight opens for airport check in.

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Posted: 2/2/2013 2:28:48 PM

Most of the major airlines block those seats, and offer the option to their top tier frequent fliers, at the time they make their reservations. If they are not reserved by FF, then the option is available to anyone who asks when they check in, but they are usually already spoken for long before the flight opens for airport check in.


Well, there you go obliolait - your discomfort due to your being "extremely tall" issue is not the airline's primary concern - pleasing their frequent fliers is. So if you want to be angry, be angry at the airline...turn out the "entitled short bitch" in the exit row EARNED those better seats



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Posted: 2/2/2013 2:46:54 PM
they should be shunned from society
or at least kneed in the throat

by the way, flying frequently is not an accomplishment

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Posted: 2/2/2013 2:49:19 PM

or at least kneed in the throat


Since you're "extremely tall", this should be easy enough for you to accomplish


by the way, flying frequently is not an accomplishment


Not sure anyone ever said it was.



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Posted: 2/2/2013 3:09:06 PM

by the way, flying frequently is not an accomplishment

I don't know about that. Used to fly 2-3 times a week for months at a time. Even 20 years ago, that kind of travel schedule wasn't a picnic. Particularly having to put up with snotty, self-absorbed, know it all amateur fliers like you!


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Posted: 2/2/2013 3:22:21 PM

by the way, flying frequently is not an accomplishment



You need to watch 'Up in the Air' with George Clooney. He takes frequent flying to a whole new level.

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Posted: 2/2/2013 3:24:07 PM
i fly multiple times per year - often across continents. i believe in courtesy and decency but i have disdain entitled americans who don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. if anyone is self-absorbed it is those whose actions, permitted or not, negatively impact other people. have a little empathy.

coach is a glorified bus where high and mighty middle income people readily demonstrate what shit heads they are

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Posted: 2/2/2013 3:26:45 PM

i believe in courtesy and decency





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Posted: 2/2/2013 3:35:14 PM
Huh. Maybe it's because we don't fly in or out of the very biggest airports (LAX, La Guardia, etc.), but my 6'5" husband is almost always able to snag an exit seat when we check in. I sit elsewhere with the kids since they're too young for an exit row. And we're not frequent fliers at all - maybe once a year.

I'm irritated by anyone on a plane who thinks they're better than or more entitled than everyone else there, for whatever reason.



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Posted: 2/2/2013 3:37:55 PM

by the way, flying frequently is not an accomplishment


I agree. It's a total pain in the ass, especially when you have to deal with arrogant assholes like yourself, but it's a requirement for my job. Which is why I appreciate the perk of preferred seating afforded to me by the airline.



i fly multiple times per year - often across continents. i believe in courtesy and decency but i have disdain entitled americans who don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. if anyone is self-absorbed it is those whose actions, permitted or not, negatively impact other people. have a little empathy.



"Courtesy and decency" like thinking that a female is a 'stupid bitch' for taking a seat that you somehow think you're entitled to because you have longer legs?


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Posted: 2/2/2013 3:41:03 PM

"Courtesy and decency" like thinking that a female is a 'stupid bitch' for taking a seat that you somehow think you're entitled to because you have longer legs


KAS, you misunderstood - she only believes in courtesy and decency for extremely tall non-Americans.




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Posted: 2/2/2013 3:54:59 PM
Exit rows - fly Qantas when or if you can. Anyone can get exit row seats (and they have lots of leg room) even if they have zero status as a FF. You just pay a bit extra. Any longhaul, eg Sydney to LA or London, it's $160.
If you are on the London flight, it's worth it. It's 22 hours. And every single seat on that flight is reclined!

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Posted: 2/2/2013 4:00:22 PM
kas, i needn't be courteous with you because you are a low life for taking the exit row. its like refusing to give your seat to a pregnant lady on the bus.

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Posted: 2/2/2013 5:41:57 PM
People who block the aisle while they take 5 minutes to cram their oversized carryon into the overhead. I blame the airlines for this - they need to enforce their own rules. I was once on an overseas flight from Barcelona and if someone tried to board with a carryon that was too big they took it away and checked it for them. Also, there was this obnoxious lady who tried to get on with two carryons and they took one away. She proceeded to stand in front of her seat and point out other people getting on with 2 carryons. The flight attendant basically told her to shut up and sit down. I wanted to applaud.


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Posted: 2/2/2013 5:45:40 PM
The other thing about airports ... the toilets with the paper toilet seat covers. I always wonder about the woman who left the stall w/o making sure her toilet seat cover went down the toilet when she flushed the toilet.

I guess there is a toilet seat cover removal fairy that is supposed to that for her.



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Posted: 2/2/2013 7:32:03 PM
Well I fly 2-3 times a year at the most and yet my 5'2" ass is in the exit row at least once during each trip. And I never had to pay extra either. Maybe DH and I just look fit and young enough to help during an emergency. So between that and my reclining I must be pissing everyone off. Oh well. YOLO!




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Posted: 2/2/2013 7:50:51 PM

Most of the major airlines block those seats, and offer the option to their top tier frequent fliers, at the time they make their reservations. If they are not reserved by FF, then the option is available to anyone who asks when they check in, but they are usually already spoken for long before the flight opens for airport check in.


I think I was just confused. I thought Oblio was saying they just automatically offer you those seats if you are tall.
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