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Posted: 1/31/2013 4:21:31 PM
My local Michaels is advertising for a papercrafting instructor. I'm intrigued! Before diving in, I thought I'd better ask the Peas for any feedback anyone can give. Pros/cons? Good/bad/ugly? Fun/not?



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Posted: 2/1/2013 1:30:12 PM
I would be interested in this answer!

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Posted: 2/1/2013 3:41:07 PM
Me too! The store here is also looking. I know I "can" do it. Just not sure if I "want" to do it. It will take away from my scrappy time. If it's worth it, $$ wise, I would though!

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Posted: 2/1/2013 5:31:04 PM
I just did a six month stint as a Michaels instructor. I've been teaching scrapbooking at different scrapbook stores for 10 years and during 2012, I sold out almost every class I taught at the LSS (several each month).

So it seemed like a sure thing to add Michaels to my teaching agenda. I really like Michaels and the manager there was really a nice guy.

I gave myself a goal of making it successful by January 2013 and I did not meet that goal. Here's why I think that was the case:

- The classes are corporately designed. The instructors are able to "put their own spin" on the classes but the basic design must stay the same as well as the concepts that are to be taught. So for example, if they show you 5 cards that use certain papers, you can change the papers and even the colors and even the theme of the card but everything else must stay the same. That was a problem for me because although I went into it with an open mind, the designs were not up to my standards. I have my own style that I have worked hard to be identified with, as an instructor. My style was nowhere present in their classes. For the life of me, I couldn't get their designs to look like ME. So I got frustrated trying to teach something that I didn't love. Also, a few of the classes were so poorly designed that I even had customers make a face when I showed them the project. It was then I thought, "What am I doing?"

- The marketing structure. Because I make papercrafting my business, I went into teaching at Michaels with an enthusiastic attitude of how I could market the classes. I wanted to have color postcards printed and hand them out everywhere. I was told by the manager that no instructor could spend money on marketing materials because Michaels could not be held liable for the expense. The only marketing materials I could provide were black and white typed and printed handouts on colored paper. They are very ineffective on the counter by the registers because there's too much going on up there already. The class calendars were often either unavailable, incorrect or not on the website. Basically, driving class sales is left to the instructor but since I was not an employee in the store full-time, I was never there to promote them! The manager did offer to let me put a bulletin board up by the bathroom and I did not take the time to do it because in the end, I just lost my enthusiasm for promoting classes I had little confidence in. The primary issue with class sales is that the cashiers are the people responsible for telling customers about the classes and signing them up and the cashiers for the most part, do not care about classes. They have enough to deal with.

- The pricing. So having said all that....it boiled down to the fact that I can do a fair job promoting myself if I'm really excited about something and I could even continue to work on the designs to make them more what I would do but the main problem with Michaels classes is the price point. The standard rate for the classes is $25 PLUS SUPPLIES. Shocking. I know. Maybe that's in line in some other areas but around here - the precedent has been set that classes range from $15 - $20 with supplies included. I just taught a 20 page mini album class at the LSS - it sold out - it was $20, supplies included. Yes - I spent a lot on supplies and probably should have charged $25 but no way would I ever charge $25 with no supplies included! Turns out, no one in my area wanted to pay that and I even felt bad for asking for it!

What frustrated me the most is that there is a Facebook group of Michaels instructors and they all frequently try to mention the price point and are shut down immediately. It is the elephant in the room. No one is allowed to speak of it. I truly don't understand why they are shooting themselves in the foot with a too high price point because it primarily benefits the instructor and if the instructor doesn't want to charge that - be FLEXIBLE! Michaels barely makes anything on the class price - their profit comes from sales of supplies. So make the class fee attainable and more people will sign up and you'll have more sales!

I got so frustrated that I just gave up. I don't like to spin my wheels. If something is set up so that I simply cannot be successful, I don't want to be a part of it. The highest selling instructor for Michaels is in Canada. I quickly befriended her to see what her secret was and she told me that she is in a high income area and her store is brand new with a fabulous classroom so the sales of her classes were great. She's making a killing so it pains me that I couldn't duplicate her success but in the end, I decided it was just not for me.

I have to have more control, creatively and business wise over what I'm working hard for.

There were other issues like classroom division between the instructors (the jewelry instructor repeatedly booked a class at the same time as mine and when I showed up to teach...there she sat with her student!). Everyone there was super nice and I had a hard time leaving the group but I feel I made the right decision.

Sorry so long but I guess I needed to vent!!

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Posted: 2/1/2013 5:49:02 PM
WoW!
So, if you don't mind me asking, do you get a set payment for each class? Or is it a percentage of each person's fee? How do you, as the instructor, make money?

We don't have a great scrapping community here, so I'm sure the classes are a big flop, but I have considered it in the past when there was a job posting.

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Posted: 2/1/2013 5:53:26 PM
You get a percentage of each class fee and it is a lot. It could be a potential money maker for sure if anyone signed up! I would have rather had the classes be $15 and had 10 people at each one than one person I begged each month. It is just not set up to be successful.

In our area, Archiver's now has the most success in this industry. Michaels should be paying attention to how Archiver's is doing things because their classes are successful and around $15 to $18 with supplies included. Plus, they obviously have people designing them who really know what they're doing. Their class samples always blow me away.

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Posted: 2/1/2013 5:56:34 PM
I had the same problem Tracy did.
But, I chose to stop teaching before the 6 month mark.
I didn't like sharing a classroom with the Wilton class.
Icing and paper do not mix well.
And how do you teach a class while someone that is teaching a different class at the same time?
I wanted to use my designs too but was shut down. Not because they didn't like tj but because that's just not how they work
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Posted: 2/1/2013 6:04:50 PM
Thanks for all the info! And I totally agree... If *I* wouldn't pay that much for a class with no supplies, how could I expect somebody else to?

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Posted: 2/1/2013 7:58:01 PM
Exactly!! I thought about telling the powers that be my opinion but I think they've heard it over and over and choose to ignore it.

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Posted: 2/2/2013 5:52:08 PM
Thanks for all the input. I'm curious, so I filled in their online application, and omigosh, after the 10-minute IQ test there's a TWELVE PAGE (each with 20 questions!) aptitude test! I happened to be there this morning and so asked the cashier if she had to answer all those questions too. Yes. Seems a bit much for a small position of only a few hours a week, yikes!

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Posted: 2/24/2013 9:19:55 PM
I had an interview for a papercraft instructor today at my Michael's. I got the job on the spot. The manager said Michael's would call with all the job info. The store has not had papercraft classes in a very long time. I hope it works out because I am super excited.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:19:39 PM
I had to take that aptitude test back when I worked there...10 years ago! Good luck on the teaching gig.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 5:29:37 AM
Tracie I passed for your same reasons, but luckily for me I investigated all before committing, this only becaue I got burned by the Cricut Army situation, so I knew what to look forward. The program offered by M's is too controlling and I wasn't willing to push my creativity to the side for their classes. The on-line application process was a joke. Way too long. I'm so glad I passed, I'm sorry Tracie you stuck it out for so long you are a good one.

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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:31:06 PM
I was a Michael's instructor several years ago when they offered a whole range of crafting classes. Then they got rid of all their classes except Wilton. The classes are slowly starting to come back. Before there was realy no management of class offerings, and it was really difficult to work with them. It sounds like they have now gone to the opposite extreme. Hopefully they will figure it out.

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Posted: 2/26/2013 11:37:32 AM
I taught with Michael's for almost a year, and my experience was similar to Tracie's. I taught with the SDU/Spotted Canary program through EK Success. In addition to not matching my style, the projects and techniques they were teaching were about 10 years out of date! I was also frustrated with the marketing of the classes and never had more than a few sign-ups each time I offered a class. To make matters worse, the classroom was basically a converted storage closet in the back of the store -- cramped and kind of depressing.

I think the classes would be a lot more successful if they gave the instructors a bit more creative freedom to infuse their own style and personality. Right now, they are all about "control" and making everything the same, which is the exact opposite of what this hobby is really about. Sad.

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Posted: 2/26/2013 11:51:02 AM

the projects and techniques they were teaching were about 10 years out of date!
I'm glad to hear someone who actually worked in this position say this! Hearing about how Michael's runs their classes has been informative, and disappointing. I often wonder when I see the card/layout examples pinned up in the store, who is teaching the classes and who is taking them. I'd love to be involved with my local M's store, either teaching or taking classes, but not the way they are currently offered and controlled.

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Posted: 2/26/2013 1:00:05 PM
Tracie hit the nail on the head with regards to the price points and the supplies, and that is why it never worked out for me before I even got my first class going. There was no real direction as to what I was supposed to teach, but absolutely no freedom to design my own curriculum. I tried joining the Facebook group, and my request was ignored for several weeks (in fact, I never did get my acceptance come to think of it). This is where I was hoping to gain ideas. They wanted to me to come in on say, a Saturday, and do a few demos to gain attendance for my upcoming classes. But there was no direction as to what I was to be teaching.

The worst part was that they encouraged me to use the paper and supplies I found in their classroom craft cupboard. And sure enough, they had LOADS of paper and scrap supplies in there, which I would have been happy to use. The problem is, the customers weren't allowed to use it. They have to pay $25 for their class, and then buy the supplies on top of it. But in my experience, 99.9% of beginners want to make what the teacher is making. So how am I to use the outdated product in the cupboard that is no longer being sold, if the customers can't a) use it or b go out and purchase it off the shelf. Furthermore, what happens if I design some cards or a few layouts and then there are not enough supplies on the shelf for the customers to buy? It's not like I could cross-reference their stock with my layout plans.

Basically, it's just set up terribly. I asked them if I could plan classes and charge more with supplies included and they of course, said no. It is beyond me why they wouldn't consider this. Well actually, it's not. They want customers to go out there and find the supplies, and find other things along the way. I get that. I took Wilton classes at Michaels, and that totally made sense, because there are set supplies for cakes and it's the same ones every time, but since scrapbooking isn't the same, I couldn't see a way to make it work. I planned a crop night as a last ditch attempt to familiarize myself with their way of doing things, only to find out the night before the crop that they hadn't even started advertising it yet. Decided I wasn't going to waste my time, and let the Manager know I didn't think it was a right fit. She actually was quite understanding, and knew that it was a backwards way of doing things. She said she didn't blame me, and that she would have done the same thing in my shoes.

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Posted: 2/26/2013 2:03:33 PM
Sounds like you had the same experience as me.

I would like to point out that I am a huge fan of the SDU/Spotted Canary class I taught at Michaels which was an 8 hour beginners class. I plan to teach that other places. It is chock full of great info and well worth the $25 but the other classes I taught were through Paper-ED the current Michaels program and the problem lies in their leadership decisions. It's a corporate policy thing. They're not in touch with the industry as it relates to classes.

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Posted: 6/3/2013 1:22:29 PM
I recently completed my paperED certification and should be starting demos and classes soon. I haven't seen very good feedback on the experience, but maybe it varies by store and manager. I asked specifically about creating my own classes and they seemed very receptive, so we'll see what happens!

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Posted: 6/3/2013 1:34:35 PM
I taught at Michael's and the main problem I had was that I had to use products that they carry - fine i can understand that but then they wouldn't give me the product for free to make the sample. The store manager let me use returned product that was classified damages but I usually ended up using my stash. I did demos on Sat. to gather enrollment and I couldn't get many ppl. to stop. My classes were mainly consisted of parents from my son's preschool, people I knew from crops and my friends and family. I'd love to do it again but I got really tired of the recruitment part. I always thought it would be awesome to get some sororities from the university to come. My other comment is that the crafting room the have for the classes is super MacCheesey. i wish they'd let me get in their - redecorate - offer a few free workshops if you spent $50 or more and supply class kits at a fixed/ discounted price, then start selling the classes once you get a following. And they need to stop advertising papercrafting workshops in George and basic shapes cricut font. dude - that screams MacCheeze!

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Posted: 6/3/2013 2:04:21 PM
when I worked for them as a scrapbook instructor there was rarely a class where I had even 2 people. Back then I set the cost and designed the project, but I had to provide all the supplies as well - trimmers, scissors, adhesive, etc. I got an hourly wage.

I tried setting up a requirement for a basic class kit and people didn't want to buy the stuff in advance of the class, they wanted to wait until after the class when they got a 10% disocunt.

I hated going there and punching a time clock and then having no one show for the class, or even worse, one person for whom I had to do a two hour class because the rule was if you had one customer you had to teach it.

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Posted: 6/3/2013 2:42:00 PM

I asked specifically about creating my own classes and they seemed very receptive, so we'll see what happens!

I'm sorry to tell you this, alliec, but if they let you design your own classes, that is going against their own corporate policy. I am very familiar with the leadership of the papercrafting arm of the classes and they have stated again and again this year how they are doing things and that does not include designing your own classes. That is absolutely not allowed.

But there might be a store manager out there who doesn't follow the rules. I can't see the District Manager going along with it but in my opinion, my store manager didn't even know what I was teaching, when I was teaching or what I was using. In hindsight, I probably could have come up with my own classes and no one would have ever known. The managers were too busy with other things to care.

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Posted: 6/3/2013 4:18:49 PM
Tracie and others thank you so much for the honest feed back. I also saw a notice at my local Michaels this morning and was interested as I don't teach at my LSS any more and have been sort of itching to get back into it. But I realize that would be a very bad fit for me. I personally could not IMAGINE teaching a class while a cake decorating class was happening in the same room. That is just plain weird!

Thank you

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Posted: 6/3/2013 5:00:02 PM
During a scrapbook improv with Lain Ehmann she mentioned that she had asked at her local Michael's about teaching classes and she filled out the aptitude test and the whole bit and the never got a call back. She laughed and said "I'm not good enough to teach at Michael's." lol

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Posted: 6/3/2013 5:25:46 PM
Wow. I have alwasy wondered about this as I have heard good things about the cake decorating class and great things about the beginners sewing classes at JoAnn's. I am not a teacher, but I always wondered about the classes at Michael's. They have some cute stuff on the shelves (Heidi Swapp, Tim Holz) so it's sad that they wouldn't let an enterprising instructor come in and teach classes.

They are missing the mark!

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Posted: 6/3/2013 5:30:56 PM
Thank you for your honest feedback. I used to teach at several of our LSSs, but they are all gone now. I've been missing teaching, and I had considered applying at Michael's. I won't be doing that now.

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Posted: 6/3/2013 7:07:53 PM
So crazy they didn't call Lain back maybe they were intimidated, haha

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Posted: 6/27/2013 6:02:01 PM
Thanks for the info.

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Posted: 9/16/2013 9:33:40 PM
I am late to this post and I am a new paper ed instructor with Michaels. In the few short weeks I have found that the Month Scrap-in ($5 for 6 hours of use of the classroom and all the supplies we have on hand including die cut machines) and the Cricut test drive ($10 for a demo of the latest edition and functions of Cricut) are the best for people interested. They are low cost and both allow customers/students to bring in their own supplies and not be required to purchase big kits up front. Hope it helps. Happy Crafting!

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Posted: 9/16/2013 10:00:03 PM
Don't waste your time and energy.

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I am late to this post and I am a new paper ed instructor with Michaels. In the few short weeks I have found that the Month Scrap-in ($5 for 6 hours of use of the classroom and all the supplies we have on hand including die cut machines) and the Cricut test drive ($10 for a demo of the latest edition and functions of Cricut) are the best for people interested. They are low cost and both allow customers/students to bring in their own supplies and not be required to purchase big kits up front. Hope it helps. Happy Crafting!

Ironically, that was one reason I quit teaching at Michaels - I absolutely HATE using a Cricut. I own a Silhouette Cameo and it is light-years ahead of the Cricut in my opinion. I even felt guilty for selling one to a customer and then a few days later, she hated it and called me complaining. But I agree - the crops are the best deal going there. I would have continued to work there and just host crops but that is not allowed.

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Posted: 9/17/2013 8:28:10 AM
Don't do it.
I used to teach for them too.
While it looks like a neat gig, it actually isn't all its cracked up to be
One of the things that sucked was that I had to share a classroom with the Wilton class.
How does one teach while another person is teaching something completely different?
And, icing and paper do not mix.
And when you teach to a room full of women and only half paid for your classes but all walk away with the lesson because they were there, its not fair to those that paid or the instructor
They also wanted to give me the dregs of the time slots even though my classes always filled
Their reasoning was that if I had the crummy times and my classes filled no matter when they were, they could get more people into classes at prime time

Really, go somewhere rise to teach. Maybe Joanne's.

Are you SDU certified?

ETA: they also want you to come in often to do demos.
They think a demo of what you're teaching in your class will get people to sign up.
The problem I have with this is you end up teaching your entire class as the demo, why on earth would someone pay for a class they just watched?
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:45:53 AM
I saw the ad at our store, too, and was interested. But then I found someone that had worked there for 2 years trying to do that job and their response was the same as Tracie's. Doesn't sound like it's worth the headache.

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UGH! I am due to teach my first class in the morning and between my store manager, who is lovely and nice, and the woman who is in charge of the Paper ed instructors in our region....The manager and the region director continuously contradict each other. It's been mind blowing.

I was actually approached in August and began in September/October and each month I am informed of something I should have been told that first meeting/at least that first month. Like - I must commit to a demo each month. Then that I must commit to a Saturday at the store. Then that I must commit to a Friday night crop - no way to this last. I just, five months later, am being shown online instructions I should have been shown my first day - like dress code, etc. They refuse to get the products with which I'm supposed to teach. In fact - they have Big Kick and Sizzix and Cuttlebug machines - but not the accouterments, such as cutting pads, to make them useful. ALL of the dies have been stolen.

It is supposed to snow another 6 inches tonight. I think I'd rather quit now than shovel six inches to get into a job that I realize is never ever going to work out. I was excited to learn new techniques. But honestly, having taught with Creative Memories tools for six years....nothing in Michaels is as easy. I was also looking forward to learning how to thoroughly use my Cricut and other tools and techniques. But the store really isn't forthcoming in providing the materials that I need to teach their own classes.

The thing I didn't like about being a Creative Memories Consultant was selling my own product. People just...well, I liked the idea of teaching at Michaels. But their policies are just not, as has been mentioned, a good model.

Two little girls and an adult coming in for a beginnners class. I'll teach basic cropping help them design their pages. I think that's it. In five months they've had this one class. Not worth it.

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Posted: 2/17/2014 11:08:53 PM
I'm so sorry. Did you see this thread only after you had accepted the position? I've been pretty astonished by how some people have been told and know going in that it won't work and then still waste their time. I can tell anyone reading this thread that it won't work long-term. I taught in the industry for 10 years with sold out classes but I was a bust at Michaels. Nothing I did worked.

I hate that for you. I really like Michaels as a company and the manager was great and it's close to me so I wish it could have been successful.

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I decided to take this position in January, even though I read everything on this thread. For the record, haven't had 1 person sign up for any classes so far.
To update everyone on the 'new' classes that started in April: a majority of the materials to be used for the 'new' classes aren't sold any longer. Most of them were clearanced in the system and aren't available at all. Ironically, I'm searching ebay and other shopping sites to get at least one to use in the class. I'm determined to make these classes happen. The class prices are way too high for what they teach PLUS you have to purchase the materials in addition. I decided to make kits (out of my own pocket) to distribute to people who sign up for the class. I was warned by the Jewelry instructor at my store to not follow the class guidelines. I wanted to find substitutions that were suitable but even doing that is hard.
I can't understand how the geniuses in the corporate classes department didn't talk to the geniuses in the merchandise department before rolling these classes out??? All the classes got a makeover for April, including a free class (that if you register online for, you have to put in a credit card number) but so far I'm the only one I know that's having problems.

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Posted: 4/11/2014 1:15:18 PM

The class prices are way too high for what they teach PLUS you have to purchase the materials in addition. I decided to make kits (out of my own pocket) to distribute to people who sign up for the class.


Please do not spend your money to make kits. You are just going to get burned doing that.

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Posted: 4/11/2014 1:21:53 PM
cgmaru - I understand your tenacity because I was determined to make it work, as well. I was teaching sold out classes across town and had for years at scrapbook stores and knew I was capable of being the one who could bring class sales to my Michaels but their system is set up for you to fail. Get out now while you can and see about Hobby Lobby or Joann which are more flexible. Trust me. I wasted a year working and spinning my wheels on Michaels. They need someone in scrapbooking at the top of their company to overhaul the whole thing.

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PeaWee

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Posted: 4/11/2014 10:40:02 PM
Wouldn't recommend looking at Jo's either for teaching opportunities.
I got a spot before Xmas as their scrapbook teacher. Was pretty excited about it.
You have to teach specific classes, for example Scrapbook 101. They charge $40 for the class and then expect the student to purchase the supplies for the class. They also expect the teacher to make samples for the class AND the samples have to use only items available in the store. This particular store had a tiny scrapbook dept. just two small isles. Their patterned paper is mostly DCWV pads and HOTP papers that they've been selling for like 10 years.
Guess what? Not a single student signed up in 3 months.

I tried to explain to them that the price was too high. All the classes I've attended at LSS and conventions include supplies, and then if it's a good class it gets people excited to buy product. Management not interested, sounds about the same as mikes. Corporate people making decisions when they don't understand the clientele.

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Posted: 4/12/2014 1:01:11 PM
It's really too bad since the big box stores are almost all that's left of physical scrapbook stores. If they updated their classes to teach newer styles and techniques they'd probably do pretty well, especially if they used some of their current stock.

I'm not planning to take any classes but I checked online to see what my M's offered. There's a PL class for $15, bring your own mini kit. Not bad. The stamped card class was $25, but required you to buy/bring 7 stamps and 8 ink pads. Now that could get pricey.
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