So Panetta testified yesterday re: Benghazi and no one seems to care

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Posted: 2/9/2013 7:37:04 AM

I think your attitude would be different if you had known any of the people killed.
As I stated earlier, John McCain said he knew Chris Stevens very well-and that he even called to express his grave concerns over security in Benghazi, months earlier.

And instead of trying to do anything about it, he apparently ignored it. Until he could blame it on someone else, that is.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 8:19:01 AM
Okay, it's making sense now why this subject is AGAIN being bought up....


Following in the footsteps of others in the right-wing media, Fox News host Sean Hannity selectively edited a video of outgoing Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta to portray President Obama as "virtually absent" during the September 2012 attack on a diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya. In fact, Panetta testified that White House officials were kept informed of events throughout the incident.

On the February 7 edition of his Fox News program, Hannity said "a major bombshell was revealed" during Panetta's testimony during a congressional briefing that Obama "was virtually absent" during the Benghazi attack. Hannity then played segments of Panetta's testimony.

But Hannity did not air the section of Panetta's testimony in which he pointed out that information about the attack "went to the White House" and that Obama stayed in contact with military officials and was "well-informed" during the attack. Hannity also failed to air a clip of Gen. Martin Dempsey stating that White House staff "was engaged with the national military command center pretty constantly through the period, which is the way it would normally work."

Hannity joins numerous other right-wing outlets in selectively editing the testimony of Panetta and Dempsey.




Now, I get it...





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Posted: 2/9/2013 8:54:59 AM
I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 9:13:50 AM
Well heck yes, if Democratic Underground says it....

Because they never, ever, spin.

That's funny stuff right there.

But I agree with you that latching onto Benghazi is not the holy grail of "gotchas" toward the President that some think it is.


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Posted: 2/9/2013 11:13:13 AM

Well heck yes, if Democratic Underground says it....

Because they never, ever, spin.

That's funny stuff right there.


But it is actually part of the testimony, there is video to back it up. So they did choose not to show it and some are going off of what Hanitty said alone. It isn't spin, just what happened.



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Posted: 2/9/2013 11:14:50 AM
And again I ask, since only Lynlam answered it. What do the rest of you want? Obama to quit or be impeached or is there another resolution? I just am wondering what you are hoping to get out of this?



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Posted: 2/9/2013 10:56:40 PM

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But, I find it so odd that the right is shitting themselves over this-an attack on an embassy in a place that sees violence and death all the time, but somehow backpedals on doing things that would likely prevent the deaths of innocent children.
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What is it that can be done to prevent the deaths of innocent children that "the right" doesn't want done?



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Posted: 2/9/2013 11:15:12 PM

Enforcing the gun control laws currently on the books. I find it very interesting that you seem to quote me, follow me around. I suspect you are an alter for a pea that likes to make rude commets about babies, i.e. Hi Lauren!
Who said they didn't want current laws enforced? I don't remember anyone saying that. Perhaps I missed it though.
And what the what!? Please do show me where I'm following you around? I honestly am not and I'm not sure what makes you think I am.



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Posted: 2/10/2013 7:58:39 AM
So can anyone else answer my question? I really want to know.



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Posted: 2/11/2013 1:22:55 PM
It looks like we'll never get our questions answered, ScrapPower.

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Posted: 2/13/2013 4:55:32 AM

The shit was going down all night, and not one phone call from the president.


Yup.

Many people posting on this thread have no idea how much Pannetta was covering for Obama, because certain things cannot happen militarily without direct authorization (or denial) from the POTUS. His testimony sounded very similar to the thread here on 2peas when it all went down.

People need to get used to it because both the Senate and POTUS will be held by the left for at least the next 25 years.

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Posted: 2/13/2013 8:51:32 AM
So Desertpea are you saying you were at The White House when this all went down? And because you were with The President you know what he did or didn't do and that is why Panetta is covering for The President?

My guess is no and that you know as much as the rest of do and you're just speculating.

I would also like an answer to the question of what some of you want done.

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Posted: 2/13/2013 9:07:20 AM
It is scary how complacent some of you are when it comes to Obama and this administration.

I also wonder why McCain didn't do anything if he knew there was a problem.

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Posted: 2/13/2013 9:25:09 AM

It is scary how complacent some of you are when it comes to Obama and this administration.

I also wonder why McCain didn't do anything if he knew there was a problem.


I am far from complacent, but go ahead and keep making assumptions.



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Posted: 2/13/2013 9:25:51 AM

So Desertpea are you saying you were at The White House when this all went down?


There is a specific chain of events that happens when one of our foreign embassies are attacked. You can use Google & find out what the responsibility of the Commander in Chief has in that chain.

Do you honestly think Obama or any of the political elite gives a flying crap if you live or die?


I would also like an answer to the question of what some of you want done.


We're waiting for the Baby Boomer generation to die out first.

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Posted: 2/13/2013 9:30:07 AM
Well I have to say Desertpea that was some response. Made absolutely no sense at all. Actually it was just plain weird.

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Posted: 2/13/2013 9:31:16 AM

We're waiting for the Baby Boomer generation to die out first.

As someone born smack dab in the middle of the Baby Boom time frame, all I can say to this statement is this:

FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON.




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Posted: 2/13/2013 9:58:52 AM

We're waiting for the Baby Boomer generation to die out first.


And you mean what, exactly, by that?







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Posted: 2/13/2013 10:36:57 AM

There is a specific chain of events that happens when one of our foreign embassies are attacked. You can use Google & find out what the responsibility of the Commander in Chief has in that chain.

Do you honestly think Obama or any of the political elite gives a flying crap if you live or die?


You never answered the question. How do YOU know that Panetta is covering for The President?


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Posted: 2/13/2013 10:44:41 AM
Did I stutter or something?

We younger generations are waiting for the Baby Boomers to die off.

Until then, we're powerless & just making do to survive until it's our turn. Why do you care? You'll be dead by then, leaving us with trillions and possibly quadrillions in debt. We only have to sit here and endure your inane spewings, your horrible policies, your corrupt politicians, and your lies for another two or three decades. You can have the Federal government -- it's yours.

Apparently you never visited USDebtClock.org? Each one of us owes $1,085,447 for unfunded entitlements at the time of this posting. Some of us are a little bitter about that.

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Posted: 2/13/2013 10:46:07 AM

Did I stutter or something?

We younger generations are waiting for the Baby Boomers to die off.

Until then, we're powerless & just making do to survive until it's our turn. Why do you care? You'll be dead by then, leaving us with trillions and possibly quadrillions in debt. We only have to sit here and endure your inane spewings, your horrible policies, your corrupt politicians, and your lies for another two or three decades. You can have the Federal government -- it's yours.

Apparently you never visited USDebtClock.org? Each one of us owes $1,085,447 for unfunded entitlements at the time of this posting. Some of us are a little bitter about that.


Yeah not this younger generation. FFS what a pile of nonsense.



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Posted: 2/13/2013 10:49:54 AM

We younger generations are waiting for the Baby Boomers to die off.

Until then, we're powerless & just making do to survive until it's our turn. Why do you care? You'll be dead by then, leaving us with trillions and possibly quadrillions in debt. We only have to sit here and endure your inane spewings, your horrible policies, your corrupt politicians, and your lies for another two or three decades. You can have the Federal government -- it's yours.

Apparently you never visited USDebtClock.org? Each one of us owes $1,085,447 for unfunded entitlements at the time of this posting. Some of us are a little bitter about that.


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Posted: 2/13/2013 10:52:13 AM

We younger generations are waiting for the Baby Boomers to die off.



YOU are 'younger generation'?? Huh.


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Posted: 2/13/2013 10:55:50 AM

I also wonder why McCain didn't do anything if he knew there was a problem.
Given that no one knows who McCain talked to or what he did, this is a strange statement. Also strange that people are more critical of McCain "not fixing the problem he knew about" than they are of the person whose job it was to ensure proper security, aka Mrs. Clinton.


I am definitely not more critical of McCain that Obama and his administration on this issue. They should have done something. I agree that it was their job to do so.

I agree that there are a lot of unknowns with McCain's statement. I guess that there really wasn't anything he could have done. Especially since Obama and Clinton obviously didn't feel the need to step in.

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We're waiting for the Baby Boomer generation to die out first.

Good grief! I can't believe you even said that.


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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:10:44 AM

How do YOU know that Panetta is covering for The President?



His lips were moving -- that's the job of the head of the CIA. And there is no way Obama will be removed from office. Impeachment from the House is possible, but like Clinton, he wouldn't be removed by the Senate. We're not dumb and we know that. And we know we're stuck with Democrat control of the Federal government for decades.

This is coming from the same administration who repeatedly stated this was about a YouTube video, and not an Al Qaeda attack. The same administration who lost a journal to a news network. The same administration that installed the Muslim Brotherhood with their Sharia law in Egypt and throughout the Middle East. They are seriously the most incompetent people to occupy the Executive branch of government in our history.

Apparently the election results clouded your memory about Benghazi, and numerous people on this thread pointed that out repeatedly.

So now that I've answered all of your questions, you should answer mine.

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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:13:14 AM

We younger generations are waiting for the Baby Boomers to die off.

Until then, we're powerless & just making do to survive until it's our turn. Why do you care? You'll be dead by then, leaving us with trillions and possibly quadrillions in debt. We only have to sit here and endure your inane spewings, your horrible policies, your corrupt politicians, and your lies for another two or three decades. You can have the Federal government -- it's yours.

Apparently you never visited USDebtClock.org? Each one of us owes $1,085,447 for unfunded entitlements at the time of this posting. Some of us are a little bitter about that.


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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:26:53 AM
If you are the future the country is fucked whether we live or die.







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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:36:26 AM

Many people posting on this thread have no idea how much Pannetta was covering for Obama, because certain things cannot happen militarily without direct authorization (or denial) from the POTUS. His testimony sounded very similar to the thread here on 2peas when it all went down



The way you worded the comment above makes one believe you know something the rest of us don't. It is clear you don't and this was only your opinion. That is fine. But it means you don't know any more than the rest of us. Lets just be clear on that.




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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:38:56 AM
This thread is all kinds of crazy. I learned not take certain peas too seriously when it comes to politics. They are completely out of touch with reality and live in their "own worlds." For example: Lynlam, DesertPea, Mrs. Tyler, Back to Peality, and so on...


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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:40:16 AM

We younger generations are waiting for the Baby Boomers to die off.


Holy crap. What an assinine thing to say.

THIS member of the younger generation could not disagree more with your assessment or your plan.



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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:45:54 AM
And this member of the Baby Boomers could also not disagree with you more

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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:46:43 AM
That's cute, Sarah*H. You think I'm trying to influence people and make friends -- I'm not. I don't even post here regularly.

As I said in another thread, the political discourse here is on grade school level, and gets boring fairly quickly.

And yeah, I'm way younger than the Baby Boomers, lol. Did you think I was as old as Hillary Clinton or something?

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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:48:53 AM

That's cute, Sarah*H. You think I'm trying to influence people and make friends -- I'm not. I don't even post here regularly.


I wasn't trying to be cute and I know you're not here to make friends. I was just making a suggestion in case you ever want to not communicate like a crazed whack job moonlighting as an asshole so that even one person might care about your opinion but eh, whatever, if you're really just here to beef up your own narcissistic sense of your own brilliance, go on with your bad self.



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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:49:58 AM

As I said in another thread, the political discourse here is on grade school level, and gets boring fairly quickly.
How telling that you still feel the need to participate.


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As I said in another thread, the political discourse here is on grade school level, and gets boring fairly quickly.

Then I'm really confused as to why you aren't more comfortable here. Your behavior resembles that of a spoiled, bratty 5th grader who has never, ever been told she/he's been wrong.


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Posted: 2/13/2013 12:01:22 PM

I was just making a suggestion in case you ever want to not communicate like a crazed whack job moonlighting as an asshole so that even one person might care about your opinion but eh, whatever, if you're really just here to beef up your own narcissistic sense of your own brilliance, go on with your bad self.


This is a comma: ,

This is a period: .

Don't lecture people on communication until you learn how to effectively do so yourself.

Thank you for proving my point.

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Posted: 2/13/2013 12:07:18 PM
With all of that grammar expertise, it's surprising that you were able to read past "eh, whatever."



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Posted: 2/13/2013 12:21:13 PM
Desertpea--you really aren't helping your cause. I used to like reading what you had to say, I didn't always agree but with this--I'm out

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Posted: 2/13/2013 12:27:26 PM

As I said in another thread, the political discourse here is on grade school level, and gets boring fairly quickly.




I was just making a suggestion in case you ever want to not communicate like a crazed whack job moonlighting as an asshole so that even one person might care about your opinion but eh, whatever, if you're really just here to beef up your own narcissistic sense of your own brilliance, go on with your bad self.



This is a comma: ,

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Don't lecture people on communication until you learn how to effectively do so yourself.

Thank you for proving my point.





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Posted: 2/13/2013 12:31:03 PM

We younger generations are waiting for the Baby Boomers to die off.


Please speak for yourself, not the 'younger generation' in its entirety. Thanks.

As a member of the 'younger generation,' I have to disagree with you wholeheartedly...


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Posted: 2/13/2013 12:50:30 PM
lol, I am not the one getting upset at discovering we all die one day.

I know you all don't like me pointing out that for every three to four people lucky enough to have a job right now is paying for one Boomer's Medicare and Social Security out of their paycheck after they let their precious, can do no wrong, elite ruling class they created rob the trust funds.

So even if the younger generations agree to pay for the Boomers and not take a cent for themselves, they are demonized and accused of being evil for wanting an alternate, private retirement plan that doesn't go through the government ponzi scheme.

I really don't think people who voted for someone who said "vote for revenge" and think it is okay for the POTUS and SOS to be "unavailable" during an attack on our embassy have much credibility in these kind of discussions. The Republicans aren't even taking these hearings seriously -- they aren't asking the hard questions. They gave up a long time ago. I don't see people marching to release that film director from jail. People just don't care.

Posters here are way too emotionally involved, and get noticeably upset even if people agree with other posters -- or answer their stupid questions.

And that is one of the reasons why we're going to be stuck with a Federal government progressively becoming more on the left for decades. And yes, I seriously want someone from my generation to be President. So sick of these boomers... Clinton, Bush, Obama, now we'll have Biden or Kerry or Clinton... these old farts that rot in Congress until they die at like 89... enough already!

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Posted: 2/13/2013 1:06:07 PM

I know you all don't like me pointing out that for every three to four people lucky enough to have a job right now is paying for one Boomer's Medicare and Social Security out of their paycheck


I hate to tell you this, but the vast majority of baby boomers hasn't even reached retirement age yet and are still paying into medicare and social security, thank you very much.




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Posted: 2/13/2013 1:26:21 PM
And those of us who are collecting have paid our dues. For years. And, I would remind you, it was not Baby Boomers who instituted your so-called entitlements. SS, Medicare, Unemployment, Welfare, were in place long before we got any say in it.







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Posted: 2/13/2013 1:30:03 PM

Then I'm really confused as to why you aren't more comfortable here. Your behavior resembles that of a spoiled, bratty 5th grader who has never, ever been told she/he's been wrong.


Actually, I'm one of the few being honest and giving their opinions on a topic, while the rest of you typically look for any excuse to berate anyone who disagrees with your predictable opinion instead of actually discussing the topic at hand.

It's usual 2peas stuff. If you think I give a single ounce of care of your opinion of me, then you really should rethink that.

And for whoever said something about my "cause" -- I don't have one. Do people honestly think 2peas is like football teams you pick to root for or something? You aren't going to agree with everyone on every single issue unless you're some talking points robot.

The baby boomers' voting patterns as a whole do not give a crap about future generations. They are robbing from them instead because they feel they are entitled and owed it, and they simply do not care about the economic carnage they are leaving behind. They've been in charge for 20+ years already and no one is expecting they are suddenly going to change their thinking. So the rest of us have no other choice for another few decades until they die off and a new generation is in control -- one that realizes what was taken from them, and sets things right.

Disagree with it all you want. But I honestly answered the question while the rest of you deflected or ignored it.

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Posted: 2/13/2013 1:32:00 PM

So the rest of us have no other choice for another few decades until they die off and a new generation is in control -- one that realizes what was taken from them, and sets things right.
Boy, you really must be young after all.


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Posted: 2/13/2013 1:33:43 PM

Actually, I'm one of the few being honest and giving their opinions on a topic, while the rest of you typically look for any excuse to berate anyone who disagrees with your predictable opinion instead of actually discussing the topic at hand.


Plenty of people post their honest opinions here, it just might not be ones you feel are valid, but they are still their opinions.



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Posted: 2/13/2013 1:36:14 PM
Desertpea--I see more conservative leaning people in my generation then in the younger generation. I am so gald I will not be around when all these special snowflakes grow up and will be the ones in charge. So before you go complaining that us baby boomers are the ones destroying the country--look to your own generation.

dynalady
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Posted: 2/13/2013 1:36:36 PM

, I'm one of the few being honest and giving their opinions


Honestly giving your opinion does not make the opinion correct.







"I contend we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts




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Posted: 2/13/2013 1:37:57 PM

Desertpea--I see more conservative leaning people in my generation then in the younger generation. I am so gald I will not be around when all these special snowflakes grow up and will be the ones in charge. So before you go complaining that us baby boomers are the ones destroying the country--look to your own generation.


Please tell me you are not saying that liberals are "special snowflakes". Right? Sigh.


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