Vent: ENOUGH with the single mom sob story!
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Posted: 2/10/2013 4:18:48 PM
Can I just fuss for a minute so i'm not tempted to poke her in the eye? Lord knows then she'd constantly talk about how she can't be or do anything with her life because she's a single mom with one functioning eyeball. ha.

I have a person in my life that got divorced 3 years ago. Two kids, no special needs, no crazy circumstances, I didn't know her ex husband before they got divorced but have met him multiple times in the last year. From her side of the story and what i've seen he's a great dad and seriously i'd take him as an ex in about 3 seconds compared to some of the stories i've heard from single moms who are actually parenting alone and making ends meet. Of course she paints him as this horrid ass who abandoned their family and left her with no choice but to be 'just a single mom'. She forgets to mention to most people that the reason he was so cold and just left her was because she cheated on him multiple times. According to her she cheated, they went to counseling, tried to work things out, he forgave her and tried to be a better husband and then she cheated twice more.

The scenario she's in:
Her parents bought her house. Paid in full because they want the kids to have a nice place to live and be close by.
She gets child support, every month, automatically deposited. Enough to cover the bills/food easily. He pays for activities, etc.
According to the custody agreement he has every weekend visitation, but he ends up having them 50%+ of the time, he drives them to/from school and keeps them most nights. She's ok with it because well, she is.

The story she tells is one of a single mom who is struggling-
She can't get a job because she's a single mom (i'm not sure how that impacts her job seeking at all, most single moms I know have a job, and a lot of them have more than one.)

She can't afford her utilities because she's a single mom (but she can go on vacations alone, hits ladies night at a different bar every night, smokes like a freight train, will out shop anyone in a heartbeat)

Her car just got repossessed because she's a single mom (but the night before she called me to see if I wanted to fly to Vegas because we 'needed' a girls weekend out)



There is a long list of things that make me go WTF with this one. Most anyone could take her situation and have a comfortable life but she seems so hell bent on people feeling sorry for her, it almost seems like she finds ways to work 'but i'm a single mom' into her vocabulary. So irritating and its gotten to the point that it just irritates me.

There are SO many single parents that are struggling without support from anyone. No one is buying them houses, they aren't getting crazy amounts of child support and they are actually raising their kids. Does it really count as parenting alone if the other parent has them more than half the time? It looks more like co-parenting to me (and really with the finances included the bigger part of the co-parenting is on his side of the fence)

What in the world is wrong with people? Being a single mom is more common now than it's ever been before and it's really just rubbing me the wrong way when it's used as an excuse to not do anything with your life despite the fact that it only takes a little effort on her part. I understand that it's easier to bitch but have mercy. One day living life without falling back on her husband and parents and she would fall flat on her face. Maybe, just maybe she'd suck it up and grow up a tiny bit. Who knows. All I know is i'd like to see the phrase 'but i'm a single mom' banned forever.

I think I feel better now...or I might still poke her in the eye.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 4:36:38 PM
Some people always have to blame someone or something for their failings. It seems pretty common these days - it drives me nuts that most people won't admit that they are responsible for their life and their happiness.

I don't think I would be able to be around this person she would drive me absolutely crazy. I understand feeling sorry for yourself once in a while but then you have to just put on your big girl panties and get over it and do something about it.

I think this woman would drive me especially nuts since she brings everything on her self and make poor choices.


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Posted: 2/10/2013 4:41:41 PM
Just curious..........do you call her on her bad choices? Like..........if you couldn't pay your car payment, why were you asking about going to Las Vegas? I wouldn't be able to keep my mouth shut. LOL


Of course she paints him as this horrid ass who abandoned their family and left her with no choice but to be 'just a single mom'. She forgets to mention to most people that the reason he was so cold and just left her was because she cheated on him multiple times.

I know a LOT of single moms (or divorced and remarried moms) who are wonderful at forgetting the part that they played in the break up of the marriage with the kids father.





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Posted: 2/10/2013 4:46:55 PM
Wow. I'm irritated, and I don't even know her. I was a single mom for several years, and it never held me back. I will never understand a complete unwillingness to try to stand on one's own two feet. It really is possible to make a great life for you and your kids all by yourself...and it feels great.


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Posted: 2/10/2013 4:59:20 PM
I hate when people play the single mom or dad card in general.

I think her problem is not she is a single mom but that she is an idiot.



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Posted: 2/10/2013 5:00:53 PM
Sounds like she behaves exactly the same way she did when she was married -- like an ASS. I doubt anything in her situation would be any different if she wasn't a single mom.

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Posted: 2/10/2013 5:02:37 PM
Does she realize that she's all 'woe is me' to you...a single mom?


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Posted: 2/10/2013 5:05:46 PM
I have very little tolerance for any single mom woe-is-me sob story.

I got left with a 6 month old infant, less than $200 and no way to pay a car payment or rent. And I've not received a dime of support in the 16 years since.
I managed to get a job, land a better job, buy a house, buy new cars, clothe, feed and support my daughter, go on vacations... As Cheryl said above me, being a single mom hasn't held me back. And it certainly hasn't stopped Steph either.

Lesson learned - don't ever rely 100% on someone else for your financial well-being.


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Posted: 2/10/2013 5:29:46 PM
I can definitely understand how you would feel that way, since you're a single mom yourself, and you've always been one of the most positive and upbeat people I know in the years I've known you here, single mom or not.

Sorry your friend is being that way. She sounds pretty narcissistic.

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Posted: 2/10/2013 5:53:10 PM
I think you should poke her in the eye


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Posted: 2/10/2013 6:01:18 PM
Bah. I hear you.

My favorite is when a *Single Mom* uses that as an excuse as to why her kid's homework isn't done or some other issue that I encounter in my teaching job.

I tell her that I can relate since I was a single mom from the time my older child was 5. But we never had any homework or behavior issues. Grrrr... fries me.

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Posted: 2/10/2013 6:05:19 PM
Well, it sure says a lot of why she doesn't do very well being married. Sounds like she's just a peach in any scenario.

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Posted: 2/10/2013 6:07:22 PM
I'm going to whisper this because I've never said it out loud...but this is one of my only pet peeves with my MIL. Every negative thing that ever happened when her children were small...was because she was a single mom and was working all the time.

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Posted: 2/10/2013 7:48:56 PM
I'm right there with you. I hate it when someone plays the "I'm a single mom" card.

While I am not a single parent, I was raised by one (my dad died when my brother and I were young and mom did not remarry). This was back in the day before family-friendly workplaces, equal pay for equal work, etc.

We had a decent home in a safe area, dinner on the table every night, and everything else we needed, and a treat now and then. We were not as well off as some, but better off than others. And Mom managed to also have friends, take a class or two, put money in savings, and generally enjoy life. And she did it on her own.

I'm sure it was difficult, but she did it without ever complaining (unless we didn't do our chores!). She was a darn good parent!


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Posted: 2/10/2013 7:50:38 PM
Women like that just give the single moms that are struggling such a bad name. Yeah, I'm a single mom too and have been almost a year. I'm trying my best at keeping a roof over mine and DS's heads and food on the table, it is hard but we are doing it.

I do use the single mom excuse when everyone from work wants to go out and drink and I'm just not in the mood, but that's the extent of it. Hasn't prevented me from being able to work and pay most of my bills. I'd love to get any kind of child support too, but I think that's going to be a cold day in hell.

Next time she whines I would have a hard time not slapping her alongside her head.


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Posted: 2/10/2013 7:57:58 PM
I've called her out on it repeatedly but I 'just don't get it'.

Half the time I don't understand what it's like because i've been alone so long that I forgot what it's like to struggle. Uh, ok. What I don't understand is what it's like to know that no matter what I do someone will be under me as a landing net. If I make a mess of my life, I land on my ass and then I have to pick up the pieces. Lord knows i've done it a few times and then I learn to make better choices.

She was messaging me the other day saying that she didn't know where to turn, that she needed me to give her a mojo boost, set her budget and be her 'life coach' (wtf?) I responded that i'd be more than happy to help her set up a workable budget, set realistic goals and turn things around but that i'm not going to waste my time if she's not willing to do the work. If she's asking for my help she needs to be fully aware that I will have no problem calling her on her bullshit and that the excuses have to stop. My time is valuable and i'm not going to waste time helping her set goals if she has no intention on following through.

I got "You just don't understand what it's like to be by yourself." I don't really work 'single mom' into my life so it's not really part of my identity unless it serves her purpose. Who knows. She wants to bond over the whole 'single' thing part of the time and then she wants to act like she's the only one who has ever had kids and not been married. I don't have a lot of patience for it when the bottom line is she's just an ass.

But Kathy said I can poke her, I feel like I should and then say 'and THATs from Kathy! " lol.




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Posted: 2/10/2013 8:13:58 PM
I agree, Steph...poke her in the eye and then kick her in the knee!!

I also can't stand it when actors, singers, etc. complain about being single parents. That drives me crazy.


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Posted: 2/10/2013 8:14:24 PM

I don't really work 'single mom' into my life so it's not really part of my identity


And I think that is what is key to making things work.

You sound like someone who focuses on strengths rather than weaknesses, and that's why you can do what you need to do.

Unfortunately, it sounds like your "friend" hasn't figured that out yet.

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Posted: 2/10/2013 8:22:59 PM
See, I don't really consider someone a single mom when they share 50% custody and receive child support. Yeah, she may be single, and she's a mom, but she's not a "single mom" in my opinion.

What about all the military families whose husbands deploy for 6, 12, or 18 months? They raise their kids alone with only financial support, and they don't consider themselves "single moms." They just DO IT. In stride, until the next training or deployment.

To me, the definition of a single mom is a woman who is the only parent to her children. She parents them exclusively and receives no financial support from their father. She is a single parent, a single mom.




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Posted: 2/10/2013 8:25:41 PM
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Posted: 2/10/2013 8:35:24 PM
another vote for a poke in the eye




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Posted: 2/10/2013 8:38:21 PM
quite frankly, this is her parents fault.
They raised a little spoiled brat that gets anything she wants, and looky! They are still raising a spoiled brat.


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Posted: 2/10/2013 8:55:25 PM
I've always contended, like the old Dr. Laura Schlessinger used to say, that there is a BIG difference between a single mom and a divorced mom.

My husband's ex is a divorced Mom. We pay her almost as much in CS for one child as my ex pays me for two. My husband has never missed an event for his daughter, takes her every time he is "allowed" and many other times in addition. Like when his ex wanted to spend a week in NY over Christmas one year with some guy from her past. That is not a single mom.

To me, a single mom is the one who's husband ran out on her and left her to care for his kids on her own. A mom who receives no child support and who's ex-husband does not see the kid(s). That is an horrible situation, and I have all the sympathy in the world for those women.

The first group? Not so much. I shut that crap right the hell down when his ex tries it. We actually get along very well because she really is an awesome Mom and I respect her as my step-daughter's Mom. But that's one boundary she doesn't cross anymore: you're NOT a "single mom".


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Posted: 2/10/2013 9:22:20 PM

According to her she cheated, they went to counseling, tried to work things out, he forgave her and tried to be a better husband and then she cheated twice more.


Damn, if that's what she'll admit to, just imagine what she's hiding!!


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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:26:50 PM
I hear you.

I have a coworker that tries to get out of everything and uses this excuse. Makes me insane. And it's not like I don't understand, I was a single mom also but she just uses it to get sympathy.




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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:30:33 PM
I only have one question... WHY is she still in your life?!



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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:44:22 PM
I have a problem with the term "single Mom" in general.

If you got pregnant and do not know who the father is, then you are a single mom.

If you are raising kids and the dad is a dead beat who doesn't want to take on his share of responsibilities where the kids are concerned, you are a single mom.

ETA: If your husband has passed away, you are a single mom.

However, if you are divorced and have a custody agreement where the father is active in rearing the children, then you are a DIVORCED MOM!

Single mom = raising kids 100% by herself.

Divorced mom = both parents are raising kids.


vent over.

oh and I vote for kick her in the ass, she will recover from that and can't use it as another excuse vs. an eye injury..lol

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Posted: 2/11/2013 6:19:35 AM
my friend's sister suffers from this disorder. her ex wanted to stay married and be a family - she said she just didn't want to be married to him anymore.... she admitted to us "if i have to listen to that voice for the rest of my life, i'll kill myself" (he's austrian - which i am sure he was when she married him AND had 2 kids with him).

now, whenever the school won't give her what she wants or life deals her ANYTHING - its because "i'm a single mom and people are biased". whatever. some people will always find some crutch to prop themselves up.


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Posted: 2/11/2013 6:37:11 AM
Wow, she has it much easier than my mother did and my mom never complained, ever.

We never owned a car, we rented, we struggled but we were happy and she was much happier without my dad so I never heard her complain. EVER.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:10:47 AM
I gotta agree with IleneTell...why is she still in your life? Or at least why haven't you told her off yet?? Next time she says "You don't know what it's like to be alone" tell her "yes, yes I do, I just don't complain about it every damn second that's why you think that. Grow up and act like an adult!"

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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:22:51 AM
yeah to me she's not a single mom.

my husband died of pancreas cancer.

there is no child support(tho I do draw survivors benefits due to losing him while having minor children at home, the kids were 11,9 and 5 when he died,the youngest now is 14). there was no shared custody,no weekends where I could focus on me,or the house or whatever it was always all 4 of us.only us. I don't really have any family that has ever helped out. I don't have any siblings. Its always been me.doing it all.

housework. yardwork. keeping vehicle(s)running. taking care of the kids stuff,juggling band schedule, cross country/track practice and schedule, volunteering at the school working gates at football games etc. taking care of the pets. of course the kids always pitched in and helped,but.. still emotionally its just me. Now only the 14 yr old is at home, the 20 is a junior in college and lives on campus,but comes home a lot for weekends which is great. the 18yr old is in the Navy. I work. I am in school. AND I keep the house,the yard, the pets, the car,I keep up with the 14yr old who is learning disabled. I mail boxes to the Navy boy,and to the college girl(who doesn't like packages). I work. I'm taking college classes. I do the budget. I pay the bills. We barely get by,but we do I'm trying to save up and help my daughter get a car,her first. she's 20 right now and yet to have a car. we've never had it all, never had the brand names and for the most part have been happy with what we have had in life(except for that cancer part)

yeah no. IMO she can't pull the single mom card. heck its a card I don't even pull as an excuse, I just pick up and do it ya know?

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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:34:50 AM
I agree with Steffie 100%....there are many dads that share in custody and support their kids financially, so in those cases I don't feel it is fair for the mom to claim she's a "single" mom.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:55:39 AM
I could not be friends with someone like this at all.

I also personally can't stand it when people call themselves single moms when the dad is involved. To me, a single mom is just that. No dad in the picture at all. But that's just me.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:02:51 AM
How can you stand to be around her?
I think I'd cut that friend free and be happier without her.
I don't like stuff like that. I have enough going on in my life and dont need the negativity


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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:19:51 AM
I truly believe that some people just make excuses, no matter what. If it wasn't her pulling the single mom card, it would be something else. Some people are just that way. I know someone who is almost completely deaf. She uses that as an excuse for everything...why she can't get a job, why she can't go to college, etc. I wish I had the nerve to tell her that there are lots of deaf people in the world who do all of those things and more. It drives me batty.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:43:40 AM
Do we have the same friend?
I have a friend but her situation is a little different. She's been sitting on her a$$ for a year and now can't pay her rent(exdh was paying it). Is she out looking for a job, heck no, she's out partying.
Good God, I don't want to hear it anymore. Get off your behind and grow up.


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Posted: 2/11/2013 12:52:57 PM

I think I'd cut that friend free and be happier without her.
I don't like stuff like that. I have enough going on in my life and dont need the negativity


This.

It amazes me how many people stick with toxic 'friends' (and, in some cases, toxic family) and spend so much time getting aggravated by the things they say and do. Life is just too short.

My friends know I'm a straight shooter, and if they're doing something obnoxious like that (I am SO NOT an excuses person), I will tell them, I will offer up some ideas for solutions, and I'm willing to help them reach their chosen solution. They will either quit the complaining, or I will find someone else to spend my time with. And I expect the same in return from them.

I cut people slack when they are going through a rough spot; we all have our own trials from time to time. But I just cannot deal with the constant victim attitude.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 1:00:58 PM
This isn't a 'friend' by choice. She's someone I don't really have a choice to be around b/c of some volunteer work that I do. Removing myself from these events/scenarios really isn't an option. She just happens to be more local than the others so I get a bigger dose I avoid her as much as possible but unfortunately we get to spend time together much, much more than I like and despite my shutting it down she is a chronic oversharer and is always trying to extend our relationship socially despite the fact that I keep shutting it down.

I'm kind of hoping she gets tired and moves onto another project soon but she seems pretty settled. I'm waiting it out to see.




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I wish enough "Hello's" to get you through the final "Goodbye.
I wish you enough.

benem
Yo, that's fifty dollars for a T-shirt.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 4:00:05 PM
My mom was a single mom with 4 kids and 2 deadbeat ex husbands.

I would have a hard time not SLAPPING this idiot woman!


"We are NSBR. We talk about E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G.

Diva Cups Merkins Tub Girl Crock Pots Kitten Heels The Hoff HOF Obama Bush Kardashians Shopping Carts Shopping Trolleys Dead Aunt Cookies Trolls Not Trolls Garden Snakes Snails Stripper Poles with or with out Birds In-Laws Scoff-Laws Blogs Borg Paint Colors Dinner Books and Each Other"

--SueSume, 3/21/13


benem
Yo, that's fifty dollars for a T-shirt.

PeaNut 526,154
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Posted: 2/11/2013 4:01:01 PM
Seriously I am so mean. My response would always be along the lines of "Well next time you get married don't cheat on the guy, since you hate being a single mom"...

Even better if I could say it on Facebook....


"We are NSBR. We talk about E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G.

Diva Cups Merkins Tub Girl Crock Pots Kitten Heels The Hoff HOF Obama Bush Kardashians Shopping Carts Shopping Trolleys Dead Aunt Cookies Trolls Not Trolls Garden Snakes Snails Stripper Poles with or with out Birds In-Laws Scoff-Laws Blogs Borg Paint Colors Dinner Books and Each Other"

--SueSume, 3/21/13


BuckeyeSandy
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Posted: 2/11/2013 4:16:27 PM
DD is getting frustrated with her job search, we told her to back off it and work IMA couple other issues first.

But, yea! I hear you and I know of too many that ARE skipping major things and little luxuries to provide for their kids and themselves.

Where did she get her attitude from???

Poke her in the eye???she needed a couple swats on the butt decades ago.


Sandy
Every MOM is a working mom!
"Retired" after 22 years of an Air Force Career

REMEMBER this Veterans Day

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Posted: 2/11/2013 5:12:48 PM
You should probably just poke her in the eye. Or tell her to shut up.
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