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Posted: 2/11/2013 6:07:09 PM
I had both my girls ears' pierced at the mall, when they were around 3 months old. I have NO regrets whatsoever and never ran into any problems.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 7:43:21 PM

I think it is tacky and trashy and wrong, sorry.

The ONLY people who do it here are of a particular ethnicity/socioeconomic group.




It's a matter of personal choice, personally I would do it!


Two answers to the same question,both saying they wouldn't do it...but MyShelly, regardless of what you say, your answer was rude, and there's no way to read the last sentence without immediately recognizing what you meant....'those people' are the ONLY ones who do it...yep, I'd bet everyone who read your post got the same impression...you should own it, you meant poor immigrant Hispanics, and we all know it.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 7:51:30 PM
I didn't pierce my daughters' ears until they asked, but myshelly is making me wish I had. You know, pa' la raza and all.

Myshelly, you should either own your racism, or say you misspoke. This nonsense about "everyone has an opinion" is irresponsible. MANY people said "I don't like how it looks" or a version of "I don't like the politics of it." (The latter of which, by the way, I agree with.)

You doubled down with A) it's trashy and only "those kinds of people" do it. And you can't see how others read you saying that "those people" are trashy?

Besides, if you own your opinions, why so vague about the "particular ethnicity/socioeconomic group" - we all know who you mean. It's Latinas. I gotcha, mi hermana.


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Posted: 2/11/2013 7:56:48 PM
Standing by I think it is trashy and wrong.

That's my opinion.

Doesn't make me racist.

Don't care if you think it does.

I'm far from the only person who said I have only ever seen Hispanics do it.

I don't see how that makes me racist.

My observation that I have only ever seen Hispanics do it is completely separate from my opinion that it is trashy. It is equally trashy no matter the race of the person who does it. So how the heck does that make me racist?








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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:05:47 PM
Dude, you put them in the same argument, then you're upset that people put the information together?


I think it is tacky and trashy and wrong, sorry.


The ONLY people who do it here are of a particular ethnicity/socioeconomic group.


Let's try Algebra.

A = tacky and trashy and wrong
The only people who do A are Latinas.

Therefore, Latinas are tacky and trashy and wrong.

Correct, you are not the only one who said Latinas do this. You are not the only one who said it was wrong. You're just the only one who called me trashy.


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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:07:02 PM

I'm far from the only person who said I have only ever seen Hispanics do it.

I don't see how that makes me racist.


Okay, maybe it doesn't make you racist, but it sure as shit makes you sheltered. And declaring it trashy...well, that just makes you small minded as well. Get out a see the world, why don't you?


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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:22:05 PM
I didn't want to bedazzle my baby, but that's a choice I can make only for my daughter and no one else's. I think some little girls look really cute with earrings, but as a previous poster said, I didn't want another thing to take care of (DD had a lot of medical issues that she thankfully outgrew) and we'll get it done if and when she wants it.

FTR, around here I've seen both white and Hispanic littlies with pierced ears, girls AND boys. Perhaps in some things Texans aren't quite so uptight after all.


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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:27:47 PM


Let's try Algebra.

A = tacky and trashy and wrong
The only people who do A are Latinas.

Therefore, Latinas are tacky and trashy and wrong.


See, that just doesn't add up

I do not think all Latinas are trashy (and actually I never even said or thought the word Latina. I'm not even clear which groups that technically refers to).









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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:28:02 PM

Dude, you put them in the same argument, then you're upset that people put the information together?



Therefore, Latinas are tacky and trashy and wrong.



Exactly. The ONLY type of people who would do that, and not own it, either a) Meant it to sound that way, and are not the least bit apologetic about it, or Too stupid to comprehend the connection.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:29:06 PM
Well, myshelly, who are the people in "that group" then, to whom you referred?


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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:30:19 PM

Okay, maybe it doesn't make you racist, but it sure as shit makes you sheltered.
I must be tired, because I read this as "it sure does make you a shit head."



Trashy obviously has nothing to do with ethnicity, as evidenced by some responses here. On second thought, maybe everyone who thinks it's trashy can post their ethnicity to see if we have a pattern.......

Found this sweet lil thing - one of the first images to pop up on a search. Can't get more beautiful than this.


I totally understand those that don't want to do it. I doubt I would have, had I had a girl. But "trashy"? No. I've seen so many little girls with pierced ears and I think they're adorable.


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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:34:15 PM

It is equally trashy no matter the race of the person who does it. So how the heck does that make me racist?



But that's not what you said in your original post...you said "The ONLY people who do it here are of a particular ethnicity/socioeconomic group".

You apparently don't know anyone of another ethnicity/socioeconomic group who does it, so if you don't know anyone else who does it, and you're referring specifically to Latinas, then yes, you are a racist.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:45:49 PM
I had dd's ears pierced at 18 months; she is now 20 years old. My ears were pierced around that age, too. My mother's ears were pierced at birth. My nonna's ears were also pierced as a baby as were all of my ITALIAN and SICILIAN female ancestors' ears.

I am not "trashy" and neither is dd. It was not "tacky" and still isn't.

Go for it, myshelley. I am glad you know what socioeconomic group we are in. It was not "wrong" either. It was cultural. Proudly so.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:50:45 PM
I have never heard of it being an ethnic thing before I read this thread..and wow..just wow!

My DD is now 14 years old, I had her ears pierced when she was 11 months old. She has always enjoyed having earrings, picking new ones, changing them etc. Two years ago, she asked me if she could get them pierced again, so she would have two holes in each ear. I took her to have it done. She was thrilled.

I understand it's not for everyone and their kids, but I certainly would not call it trashy. And because it seems to matter somewhat in this thread, we are white.


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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:03:57 PM
I grew up in the PNW and we didn't have Hispanic people around, to speak of, when I was a kid. I mean, there were migrant workers in Eastern WA, but not over here.

So what I'm saying is, earrings on a baby isn't synonymous with Hispanic people to me. We didn't have Hispanic people. We did have poor white people though, and those are the ones who pierced their babies ears.

So, to me, saying it's "trashy" has nothing to do with Hispanic people. Maybe some posters were being racist, maybe just bigoted. Whatever.

I don't like the look of it, but if you want to pierce your baby's ears, knock yourself out.




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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:54:30 PM
As a personal preference, I would not. I have three daughters and it was a very big deal to them to turn 12 for this reason. That is the age at which they were allowed to choose. And none of them wear earrings very often.

Part of that may be the fact that I cannot wear earrings. When I was about 20, I kept trying until the Christmas I spent in the er getting my ear lanced because I had worn earrings for 4 hours. I have not worn them since and as such, my kids never saw me wear them and although they do wear them occasionally, it is ONLY occasionally.


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Posted: 2/11/2013 10:02:45 PM

So what I'm saying is, earrings on a baby isn't synonymous with Hispanic people to me. We didn't have Hispanic people. We did have poor white people though, and those are the ones who pierced their babies ears.


So is this now becoming a poor white thing too?


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Posted: 2/11/2013 10:08:32 PM
White, not poor, and had my DD's ears pierced when she was 4. Definitely not the in thing then. She had DGD's pierced at 6 months. They are far from poor and would never be considered trashy.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 10:14:45 PM
I have two holes and never wear earrings, they have never closed though.

In addition to the little girl, I have two boys and neither are circumcised and that was also be because I didn't wish to alter their body. I will leave that up to them to decide.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 10:20:57 PM
Both my girls had their ears pierced at 3 months. In my family and "subculture" (wth does that mean?) piercing infant ears is common. I never realized it was such a big deal for some people until I read 2 Peas. I also never felt like I had to explain or justify why I pierced my girls ears as infants. My girls went through a period when they didn't like earring and when that happened they just didn't wear them. It is your child if it isn't harmful to them then I don't see what's the big deal.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 10:25:49 PM
Okay, thought I was reading the "poor white" comment wrong after having read it twice but I guess not. I see I'm not the first to have noticed it.

I'm not Hispanic and neither is my oldest whose ears were pierced. I'm also not poor, nor was I at the time although I am white.

This is nuts. How can this possibly be considered trashy or racist? Babies are adorable, I don't care what race they are or where they come from. I have seen baby girls of all sorts have pierced ears. It is cute, but it is a personal preference. Nothing more, nothing less.


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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:21:34 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:21:50 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:22:06 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:22:22 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:22:34 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:23:36 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:23:52 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:23:55 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:24:09 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:24:25 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:25:40 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:25:56 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:28:49 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:29:06 PM
Heck I think leggings, Walmart tennis shoes and t-shirts with characters on them are tacky and trashy. I bet your kid has a drawer full of them. You views are very ethnocentric and racist no matter how you might want to couch them. Who gives you the right to decide what is socially acceptable? I say the same thing about people who bash other parents for choosing names that are not considered "mainstream".

As you can see people from all walks of life find it permissable to pierce a baby girl's ears. I think the world is becoming more and more diverse and some people/groups are trying too hard to remain relevant and in power. One way to try to maintain the illusion of power is to deem that anything that doesn't fit into your world view is bad, wrong or inappropriate. If it is not harmful to the child or illegal, then I say to each his own. If you don't like it, then don't pierce your child's ears; but don't put down others who make that choice for their child for whatever reason they deem appropriate (culture, vanity, tradition etc.) I swear some people need to step outside their little bubble.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:36:16 PM

I don't think stabbing holes in babies who can't consent is the right thing to do. I don't care who does it; I don't think it's ok.




I agree.
Additionally I do not like the look of it. I cannot explain why but it makes me cringe.



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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:36:24 PM

No one owes me an explanation as to why they chose to partake in a particular exercise of fashion that's been around for thousands of years and practiced by many cultures. And I certainly have never, EVER thought the piercing of a baby's ear was trashy.



Couldn't have said it better myself.

Some people are so harsh when they give their opinion nowadays. No matter what the subject. It mystifies me, seriously.


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Posted: 2/12/2013 12:12:25 AM
Nope I waited til dd was old enough to decide for herself. It was a big event when I got my ears pierced and a big event when dd got hers done, special bonding experience.


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Posted: 2/12/2013 12:20:52 AM
I'd love to do it for my girls and not have to worry about maintenance later - I've seen far too many young girls have issues with infections/cleaning etc. So either I'll get my girls done before they are 1, or they'll have to wait till they are 14. Most likely we'll wait though because I think both my mother and my MIL would completely freak out if I did it and I'd never hear the end of it in a very passive aggressive way. I was not allowed until age 16, and didn't actually get them done until 20.

Culturally speaking, I think its way less harmful/painful than a lot of things that other cultures do to their offspring. This guy I just met from South Africa said that they get circumcised at 17/18/19 by a drunk elder with no drugs, and probably a dull knife. Then they are left out in the wilderness to survive on their own until they heal 1-2 months later. I guess in perspective to a ritual like that, a little prick on both ears is hardly even a blip on the radar



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Posted: 2/12/2013 12:21:29 AM
I don't like it. I think it is just another way to foist adult standards on babies. What is the purpose? I don't get it. I don't have daughters, I have sons and yes they were both circumcised. That was not my choice but since I wasn't equipped with a penis and the XH was I let him make that call. If it had been strictly my choice they wouldn't have been until they were old enough to decide for themselves.


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Posted: 2/12/2013 12:22:56 AM
It is common here for Europeans (Greek, Italian, Croatian etc) to get their babies ears peirced when they are babies. Well it was common when I was younger anyway.

Personally I would not pierce the ears of my baby. I would (and did) wait until my daughter was old enough to ask for it to be done.

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Posted: 2/12/2013 12:35:57 AM

With my girls I waited until they were old enough to take care of their ears and earrings all by themselves. I chose 12 because it's a big transition year and it helps them feel more grown up. My middle girl had hers done in January and she gets to change her earrings for the first time any day now. She's excited.


^^ this.

My DD will be 11-yrs next month. She has to wait until she is 12 and then she can decided if she wants it done. That has always been our rule. DD is fine with it. She sometimes wishes she could get her ears pierced, but 98% of the time she is fine with it being the way it is. Also, getting her to brush her teeth is still a battle, so getting her to take care of her ears would be difficult. and I didn't want them to be uneven when she got older.




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Posted: 2/12/2013 12:52:25 AM
I did it 27 years ago to my daughter and they are fine and in those days they were done one at a time. She cried less than when she had her shots.

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Posted: 2/12/2013 1:11:19 AM
Interesting. I think that some of these sheltered peas must be living in parallel universes than I am because here in Boston I see that most baby girls -CAUCASIAN baby girls, let me rephrase that- with earrings and let me tell you that they are the cutest things.
I had my two daughters ears pierced as soon as the pediatrician gave me the go ahead at 3 months. Now I have a 2 months old and I can't wait for her to turn 3 months (when she gets her vaccinations) to get her ears pierced. My pediatrician (who is NOT Hispanic btw) always recommend to get the baby's ear pierced before 6 months and before "the baby discovers her ears" so when you do it at 3 m.o is very unlikely that it will cause any infection since the baby doesn't even know she has ears, and baby hands tend to be cleaner than let say at 4 y.o.

Ah, and for the record, I am Latina (and proud of it) live in Easton, MA and I decide what is best for my baby.
My baby, my choice.
I think that baby girls look better when they are wearing earrings.

PS: I am so sick of some of these almighty peas and their ignorance.


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Posted: 2/12/2013 1:39:03 AM
Me personally, I don't really care. My daughter waited till she was 9. I remember seeing a baby get her ears done at the local mall and did that child ever scream! Felt bad for the poor thing.

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Posted: 2/12/2013 1:54:38 AM
Virginia...

I understand why you're upset after some of the comments made on this thread. However, calling people from Texas hillbillies is no better than what some of the generalizations on this thread about Latinas. Making ugly statements about whole groups of people is wrong even if you're angry.

BTW...I am overweight, and originally from Texas. Some may even say I'm a hillbilly, lol.

PS...I'm sure your baby will look very cute with pierced ears!


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Posted: 2/12/2013 2:36:13 AM
Personally I don't think it's right for a parent to make a cosmetic decision affecting their child. I am totally against it until the child is old enough to know the risks, do the care, and to want it.
We don't allow branding, or tattooing of infants why should piercings be any different.


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Posted: 2/12/2013 2:46:02 AM
someone wants to modify their child's body to be "on trend?"

if that's your friend's question, no, it's not on trend.


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