Group Buy for digital PL kits?

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Posted 2/13/2013 by neeka27 in For Sale or Trade
 

neeka27
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Posted: 2/13/2013 3:21:26 PM
I know that there have been many group buys for physical PL kits but I was seeing if anyone would be interested in getting together to group buy the official PL digital cards?

Peamail if you are interested & I'll see if there is enough interest



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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:35:47 PM
I think that may be a violation of the TOU for the digital stuff. I believe the license is only for one person.



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Posted: 2/14/2013 11:40:45 AM
the TOU only says these things-

Do not copy, reproduce, alter, modify, create derivative works, or publicly display any content from the kit, except for your own personal, non-commercial use.

No Redistribution. You may not reproduce, repackage, or redistribute any of the content on AC Digitals, in whole or in part, for any reason.

No Commercial Use.

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There would be no copies, repoducting, altering, modify-ing, reproducing, repackaging, or redistribution. I am not reselling.



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Posted: 2/14/2013 12:08:58 PM
If you looking to buy cobalt ( for example ) and have the other person buy clementine, and you each swap so you will have both. That would be sending someone a copy of the kit and therefore it is against TOU.

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Posted: 2/14/2013 12:30:59 PM
it's just odd the double standard for the same kit- physical vs. digital don't you think? It's okay that someone buys the physical kit & takes 1/4 of it & sends it to someone else but not digital?

The "copying" technically in their verbage relates to using it commercially & selling. If you want it to read any other way than they need to change that to reflect what you are implying.




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Posted: 2/14/2013 12:45:50 PM
What exactly do you think "No redistribution" means Of course you can't share digital kits. Then one person could buy the kit and share with 50 other people and that is a lot of money lost for that company or individual.


**Marie**

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Posted: 2/14/2013 12:53:21 PM
Answer my question Marie how all of the group buy swaps for the physical kit isn't losing money for the company.

I am talking about the project life official digital kits. I am not talking about an individual that is selling digital kits.



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Posted: 2/14/2013 4:44:10 PM

Answer my question Marie how all of the group buy swaps for the physical kit isn't losing money for the company.

I am talking about the project life official digital kits. I am not talking about an individual that is selling digital kits.


I'm not Marie, but when people split kits they are not copying the paper and passing it out. If they allowed you to share the digital kits anyone could buy the kit and sell it to people who want it for a deep discount therefore they are taking a profit from the company. If both of us wanted the kit and only one paid for it you would be taking a profit away from them as well.

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Posted: 2/14/2013 5:12:09 PM
Except nobody is selling it. And they are indeed passing the cards out amongst themselves so they don't have to buy all the kits.


If both of us wanted the kit and only one paid for it you would be taking a profit away from them as well.


My point is that if it's the same why do people not raise the red flag on those swaps or group buys? I'm just saying there should not be a double standard that one is acceptable and the other is not.



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Posted: 2/14/2013 5:50:13 PM

My point is that if it's the same why do people not raise the red flag on those swaps or group buys? I'm just saying there should not be a double standard that one is acceptable and the other is not.


I think the difference between the 2 is that, for example, I buy a kit and sell all of my 3x4 cards with numbers on them, I cannot use them. If I buy the digital kit I can use any and all of it as well as the other person (or people). Its similar to downloading music for free, you cant do that either. (Legally anyways)

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Posted: 2/14/2013 5:56:05 PM
Because when you buy a physical kit you are limited to he number of cards included. They charge $30 for 500 cards (or whatever it is). The digital product is $X for as many cards as ONE PERSON can print and use.

If you buy it and share the files, then it is as many cards as two people can print and use. Where it says do not copy or redistribute? That means you can't copy the file and send it to someone else.

I suppose if you only wanted to use half of the designs and the other person only wanted the other half, you MIGHT be able to make a case for this, but if two people are using the same file it is definitely against the licensing agreement.
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