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Posted 2/17/2013 by maddiesmum in NSBR Board
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:00:02 PM
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:20:47 PM
Leaving all the other crap aside, yes sometimes people who die from cancer caused by second hand smoke made/make the choice to be around people who smoked which may or may not have caused the cancer.

That doesn't and has never meant that they deserve it, but it might be causation.

Certain lifestyle choices have been shown to lead to certain diseases. Does that mean the only way to get all of those diseases is by a specific lifestyle choice at a specific time? Of course not, but some of the lifestyle choices are not helping your chances.

My dad smoked in the house and in the car when I was younger. At some point, he quit smoking in the car. quit smoking in the house when I had my first child and he had asthma and other breathing issues.

My mom lived in the house with my dad and never smoked. Her parents smoked like chimneys. She could not have controlled her parents, but she could have put her foot down and told my dad that there would be no smoking in the house.

So does her living with my dad all those years increase her chance to get certain types of cancer? Of course it does. Does it mean that she would deserve it? Of course not.

Being near 2nd hand smoke is a choice now. It didn't used to be (restaurants, trains, planes, college classes....) It is understandable that the older generations have been exposed a lot. It is incomprehensible to me that people continue to choose that path.


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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:36:14 PM

Being near 2nd hand smoke is a choice now. It didn't used to be (restaurants, trains, planes, college classes....) It is understandable that the older generations have been exposed a lot. It is incomprehensible to me that people continue to choose that path.


That is really isn't true. As long as people continue to smoke non-smokers will always be exposed to 2nd hand smoke in spite of their best efforts to avoid it.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:40:23 PM
My best friend's sister died of non-smoking related lung cancer. No one can figure out for the life of them what "lifestyle choice" caused her death.

ETA: She was only 25, and left behind a 3-month-old son, who her parents are now raising. Very, very sad.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:46:06 PM

That is really isn't true. As long as people continue to smoke non-smokers will always be exposed to 2nd hand smoke in spite of their best efforts to avoid it.


I agree! Growing up I was exposed to 2nd hand smoke as well. My mom and my step-dad were both heavy smokers with no care for anyone but themselves. They'd both light up in the cars at the same time and not roll the windows down. I was mortified at school because I stunk. Anyway, to this day in order to walk into most stores around here, you get to walk through a cloud of smoke. I, too, get irritated when I'm at a red light (and it always seems to be the LONGEST red light) and I start smelling smoke in my car even though my windows are rolled up - oops, had the defrost on and forget to push the recirculate button. It's not my CHOICE though. In the building I work in, I have to walk through the smoker's section below us in order to get inside, and my boss smokes (but she tries to be respectful, make sure it doesn't blow in my direction, etc, but our files always stink because she takes them home. I love my job though, but so I don't get labeled as choosing to die from lung cancer, I need to quit a job I love, in this economy?


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Posted: 2/18/2013 3:05:50 PM

Lynlam, this thread is not about you. Not everything is about you.

Thank you all again for the kind words.
And she's back to soak up more attention. Too bad "she" can't even keep up with what or who she's starting fights about.



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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:02:40 PM


I am very sorry you had cancer

but people have said NUMEROUS times that the question applied to adults, not children



yeah, I shouldn't have posted. Sorry about that. I didn't read most of the thread- the OP just struck a chord with me and I started typing. Next time I will read first.






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Posted: 2/19/2013 3:09:59 PM

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Posted: 2/19/2013 5:13:27 PM

Now who's the dog with a bone?



It would seem to be you since you brought the thread back up after almost 24 hours of silence.







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Posted: 2/19/2013 7:09:29 PM

you brought the thread back up after almost 24 hours of silence.
Is that really an issue? I came back to read what was added and saw that in the process. I wasn't aware there are time limits.



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Posted: 2/19/2013 7:18:07 PM
^^Hi, Lauren! We know it is you.


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Posted: 2/19/2013 7:23:06 PM
+1 scrapwench

wouldn't be surprised if maddiesmum is beautifulmorning/lLiz

The two threads just feel all too familiar.

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Posted: 2/19/2013 7:49:22 PM

^^Hi, Lauren! We know it is you.
I'm really not. That does explain why you thought I was following you around though.



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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:51:09 PM

wouldn't be surprised if maddiesmum is beautifulmorning/lLiz


This was established awhile back. And by established I mean a bunch of us discussed it

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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:52:12 PM
Um yeah, that was pretty obvious from the get go.


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