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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:38:52 AM
I'm surprise on how many option out there for personal die cutting machine.
I'm wondering what is the best system to purchase. I'm thinking to invest on one. I'm going to use it for personal scrapbooking and card making. It will be nice to know more about all option available. Please help!

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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:45:19 AM
I absolutely love my Silhouette Cameo!



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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:42:19 AM
If you want an electric cutting machne definitely its the Cameo but if you want one that uses dies and embossing folders then its the BigShot


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I love the Silhouette Cameo! I like the fact that they have a store and you can purchase shapes. I also have a Cricut but I don't like that you have to buy a cartridge. I also wanted to venture out and do more than what the Cricut software allowed. For example, using SVG files from the internet. Plus, the software for the Cameo is Mac compatible.

I have been happy with my Cameo and feel like it gives me more options in the long run.


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Posted: 2/18/2013 5:11:17 AM
I agree Silhouette Cameo!

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Posted: 2/18/2013 6:01:35 AM
Another Big Shot fan here!
Also, if you have kids, the BS is easy for them to use and practically indestructable! My kids use mine all the time for school and 4H projects.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 6:55:26 AM
I have a Bosskut Gazelle which is similar to the Cameo but cuts heavier materials, ad a Big Shot.

The Cameo is a great machine and easier to figure out and use so I would definitely recommend that if you want to do a wide variety of shapes, alphas, titles etc. You so have to use your computer to use it so keep that in mind.

The Big Shot is also a great machine. It will cut almost any manual die or embossing folder. The only things it can't cut are the really large dies. You do have to buy each individual die though, which makes lots of options a bit more expensive.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:02:51 AM

If you want an electric cutting machne definitely its the Cameo but if you want one that uses dies and embossing folders then its the BigShot.
I don't have the Cameo, but it seems to be the most liked her. I DO have the Bigshot and it is wonderful, does all I want it to do and then some!

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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:09:50 AM
Electronic Silhouette Cameo but manually my Quickutz which I heard can be used in a Big shot or cuddle bug. I like to keep a back up incase something goes wrong and the electronic one crashes.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:51:19 AM
Big Shot. I do not have the Cameo because I am not computer savvy. The Big Shot will cut most dies, sizzix, quickutz, spellbinders, and Memory Box. I love the fact that I dont have to use a computer to use the machine just a lil mustle.



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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:55:30 AM
I love my Cricut Expression! And, like someone else said if you want to emboss the Big Shot/Big Kick is a workhorse.


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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:35:48 AM
I vote for the Silhouette Cameo or Portrait! Love my Cameo.


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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:53:09 AM
Silhouette cameo hands down.




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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:55:50 AM
I love my cricut! One single cartridge may have 100's of shapes....instead of buying one at a time. Plus I buy my cartridges on Ebay and have saved a pile of money!

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Cricut. Easy to use.


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Posted: 2/18/2013 11:56:58 AM
Silhouette and Big Shot them both


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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:37:53 PM
Electronic I'd go silhouette Cameo and manual I'd go with Sizzix Big Shot

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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:55:37 PM
I have a Wishblade and a Gazelle. I love them both but they do each having a learning curve to them. Unless of course you download the free silhouette studio software. You can use both of them with that software.


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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:59:17 PM
I'm a Gazelle gal. It's a great machine!

But it really depends on you. Do you need or prefer really easy, or are you fine with a bit more of a learning curve? What materials do you want to cut? Are you a chipboard fan? The Gazelle will handle chipboard easier than the Cameo, but the KNK Zing will do even more.

Do you have more money to put up front, or do you want to spend less money on the machine itself, but spend more on designs?

There is no single best cutter. It's different strokes for different folks, but if you tell us a little more (see the questions I've asked above) then we can recommend a machine that meets your particular needs.


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Posted: 2/18/2013 5:42:47 PM
It depends on what you want to cut.

Personally, I prefer my KNK Zing.
I had an older KNK before the Zing, and I still have a wishblade (smaller and more portable than the old KNK) and a cricut...
the cricut is collecting dust.
my Zing!

If you want to know more, go to www.iloveknk.com/knk-info/

and for materials that the Zing can cut,
www.iloveknk.com/knk-photo-gallery/20plusmaterials/

ETA: the Zing uses Make the Cut software and cuts svgs, as well as traces to create your own images & does print and cut.
And, it has far more cutting force than the Gazelle, Pazzles and my old KNK.
There are a lot of Zing owners, despite the lack here, but they hang out at the MTC forum.

ETA 2: the Zing cuts thin to thick: vellum, mylar, chipboard, felt, etc


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Posted: 2/18/2013 7:48:52 PM
WOW.. Thanks for all the responses.
I'd like electronic die cut machine.

I have a cricut and I don't hate it, but I just wish that there's more diverse way on getting images.
I'm not familiar with Gazelle or Cameo (the two that is suggested by all of you). Do any of them allowing you to design your own images or you have to purchase images?
I saw many digital scrapbook stuff that allow you to cut. what does that mean? does it mean I can purchase it and cut with either Cameo or Gazelle?

I might be move out of the country in a couple years, and I can't bring all of my scrapbook stuff with me. I want to keep one machine that is diverse enough for me to bring cross the country, and one that won't give me any problem of finding cartridges or images.

I'd like to be able to find images online and easily altered images.
I was thinking to purchase cricut imagine (because of the printable feature), but I heard many bad review on them. I decided to find one machine that can do it all and bring it with me when I move away.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:38:52 PM
You can either design your own or purchase images for the Gazelle. It imports most image files as well as SVG files.

The cameo has the Silhouette store which makes it easy to buy files but you can also import others as far as I know. I think you have to buy a software upgrade to design your own.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:46:29 PM
I don't know if it's the best but I still get a lot of use out of my old red Sizzix and my Sidekick. I got the Cameo for Xmas and I have to say it is delightful.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:57:06 PM
With Gazelle, you can design your own as well as import and trace clip art. It is a bit more expensive, but it comes with really capable software and tutorials. No upgrade necessary.

I don't know about the Cameo software vs. the upgrade version of their software. Hopefully someone else can tell you about that.

Both the Cameo and the Gazelle cut 12 inches wide if that is important to you. For me, the width was important, and Gazelle was my choice. Cameo is less expensive than the Gazelle and came out later, but if you want the better Silhouette software, you have to pay more money.

The smaller Silhouette cuts 8 inches wide. It is probably the most affordable of the more capable machines, but it doesn't cut chipboard.

You can purchase and download images for both Silhouette/Cameo and Gazelle machines. I think Silhouette offers more designs, but I haven't looked at designs for the Gazelle since I bought my machine. I create my own rather than buy designs for my Gazelle. I can use Cricut mats in my Gazelle, but I have to order blades online. However, my Gazelle blade has lasted far longer than the cheap Cricut blades.

These machines also cut your computer fonts and dingbats, which gives you some free designs and design options, too.


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Posted: 2/18/2013 11:27:30 PM
Big Shot for sure!



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Posted: 2/19/2013 12:33:45 AM
I found this website:

die cutting machine

I love that Gazelle allowing you to emboss and engrave, however the software seems to be complicated to use.
Can you use Gazelle without connecting it to computer?

does anyone has an insight about ecraft machine?

So far, I'm torn among Gazelle, ecraft, and Cameo.



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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:42:36 AM
Silhouette for sure. I sold both of my Cricuts and 25 cartridges to get a Silhouette Cameo. Best investment ever. I also have a Big Shot that is nice for embossing.

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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:47:42 AM
The Gazelle requires a computer. I have mine connected to my laptop. The software has a bit more of a learning curve, but mine came with tutorials, which made it a lot easier.

Again, it comes back to what materials you want to cut. The Gazelle will emboss, but if I remember right, you need a special embossing kit to do this, and the same would be true for engraving. I never bought either of the special kits. I emboss with embossing folders and my Big Kick. They give a deeper impression just based on what I have seen of the samples.

What materials do you want to cut and emboss in your crafting? If you want to use a lot of heavier materials, then get either the Gazelle or the KNK Zing (which comes with Make the Cut software). If you will be cutting nothing heavier than cardstock, the Cameo is more affordable. Some people have cut chipboard with it, but it doesn't have as much cutting pressure, which limits you somewhat.

The Zing has more cutting pressure than the Gazelle, and the Gazelle has more cutting pressure than the Cameo. I don't know what the cutting pressure of the eCraft is. I also don't know if the Zing or eCraft do embossing or engraving.

The greater the cutting pressure, the more capability the machine has for cutting different materials.

If I were to buy an electronic cutter today, I would seriously consider the Zing, even though I love my
Gazelle.


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Posted: 2/19/2013 3:47:47 PM
I want a machine that can cut it all and do it all. I'll love a machine that will allow me to cut variety of materials and also allowing me to emboss in the same time.
Have you use KNK Zing before? I saw the tutorial video from youtube, and it seems like an amazing product. I'd love to hear some opinion from people who have used them before.

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Posted: 2/19/2013 4:49:17 PM
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Posted: 2/19/2013 4:57:20 PM
I have never used the KNK Zing, although if I were buying a new machine, I would seriously consider this one.

He**in WA, who posted earlier in this thread has one and loves it. Either she or Sandy McCauley (who sells them) can answer your questions about the Zing.


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Posted: 2/19/2013 5:30:43 PM
Most of the Zing owners hang out at the Make the Cut forum, since MTC is the software that ships with the Zing.
Just an fyi, the larger KNK's, as well as the older KNK's, use KNK Studio software so you may see that software discussed on other forums.

To answer a few questions:
-The Zing will emboss and engrave with the proper tips and for embossing a special mat is used.
-The Zing can do print and cut; as with the wishblade, cameo and others (except the imagine) you print with your printer and then cut with your cutter.
-The Zing can load up to 18" width and cut up to 14" width.
-You can import AI, SVG, PDF, SCUT, and EPS files and cut in MTC The Zing also cuts from Artistic Suite.

HTH

ETA: You can download a trial of the MTC software to visualize it without having a machine.

ETA2: You can cut fonts and dingbat fonts also, as do the other non-provocraft electronic cutters.


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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:55:13 PM
You might want to check out the sizzix eclips.

It functions like the cricut and has a lot of similar features. It will print to cut and cut svg files with the ecal software. Or you can buy cartridges if you want. The mats and blades work like cricut only more precise. It has a laser to line up your print to cut features.
I love mine. And I love sizzix customer service and designs.

I have cut up to cereal box with it with ease.


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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:08:02 AM

Most of the Zing owners hang out at the Make the Cut forum, since MTC is the software that ships with the Zing.


Thank you for letting me know about this forum

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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:40:10 AM
I would take a look at the Sizzix eclips. It's the best of both worlds because you can use both cartridges and also the computer to make any design you want.

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I have the Bosskut Gazelle. I use both the Funtime software and MTC. I do much prefer MTC, but between the 2 software programs I can convert and use any type of files.

The Gazelle is a good machine, easy to use, very sturdy and has phenomenal customer service. Anytime I have a question or problem I am contacted by phone and walked through the steps needed.


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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:41:58 PM
Another vote for the Silhouette Cameo! It takes a little bit of time to learn the program, but once you get the basics, it's SO easy! I use it almost daily.



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I have a Wishblade and a Gazelle. I love them both but they do each having a learning curve to them. Unless of course you download the free silhouette studio software. You can use both of them with that software.


You can use Silhouette Studio software with the Gazelle? Can you share how you did it please? I am so intrigued. I thought Studio was only loading Graphtec driver's. If I can load the Gazelle Roland drivers to use with the software I will be so happy. Greatly appreciate any tips.


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I might be move out of the country in a couple years, and I can't bring all of my scrapbook stuff with me. I want to keep one machine that is diverse enough for me to bring cross the country, and one that won't give me any problem of finding cartridges or images.


I don't think anybody mentioned this but if your moving out of country you will have to think of the countries electrical specs and if your cutting machine will work. You can buy adapters but I know some die cutting machines can be iffy.

Any die cutting machine you choose I would call and ask about converting the plug for that country.

I have a Gazelle, Cameo & Cricut. They all do different things for me. I don't have a favorite out of the three. I like my Xacto knife, ROFL!

If your relocating to Europe or Australia the machines that are popular over there are Black Cat Cougar, KNK & the Cameo. A lot of UK machine users also love CraftRobo. CraftRobo & the Cameo are the same machine.

Sandy Mc has all the answers for the KNK machines and what you will need to get your machines to work if you relocate. For the life of me I can't remember who is the main Black Cat dealer for the outside of US market. I know she posts over at the MTC forum. At least she used too but one of the girls should know.

Silhouette you can call them and they can lead you in the right direction. I hope it's ok to throw out another forum but UKScrappers will know the answer for best machine if you need to convert and how to do it.

I hope that helps.


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Posted: 2/21/2013 5:41:29 AM
I have a Cricut, and I don't like it. It's cumbersome, expensive to buy cartridges, and I don't like lots of them. I hardly ever use it.

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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:12:49 AM
I LOVE my cricut expression. The cartridges have a lot of really cute images and you can make some really cool 3D items.

I originally started with a bigkick - which is the same as a bigshot just different colors- but I noticed the dies were very limited compared to an electronic cutter. I can size and image from I think it is a 1/2in to almost 2 feet. Where if I buy a pack of spellbinders I am paying 24.99 for 6 sizes of the same die. A cricut cart runs from $29.99 and up and you get SEVERAL images includes phrases. You usually get more images than what you see on the back of the packing. The smallest amount of images I've seen is 50. The most images I've seen on a cart is 700! Either way you get a lot more for your money.

Why I chose the cricut over the Cameo is because I don't have to hook it up to a computer. I can and use the Cricut Craft Room to buy individual images or electronic carts, but I don't have too. I like having physical cartridges with their manuals which give really great pictures so you know exactly what you are cutting. I also really love Cricut's overlay.

Cartridges can get expensive if you buy it retail, but ebay usually has good prices (got a super cute cart for $15 and free ship) and overstock.com has some good prices too. Which if you have their club membership 19.99 a year (right now it is $4.oo) then you get it discounted and you get 5% in merchandise credit (which you can use on more carts) and free shipping. They have some great cricut bundles now too.

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Posted: 8/2/2013 4:40:37 AM
I think it really depends on you. Since die cutting machine differ from price and usage which some are easy to use without connecting it to the computer. You can check the listing here http://www.ecraftssale.com/blog/die-cutting-machines/.
Hope this helps you decide.

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Posted: 8/2/2013 5:37:33 AM
Had Silhouette cameo and Sizzix Eclips and prefer the Eclips. In my experience, I get clean cuts more consistently.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 4:03:59 AM
I'm not going to make a blanket statement for 'the best' die cutter because it's all about personal preferences. For me, I love the pink Hello Kitty BS and the baby Cricut and Expression machines. I am not one to be tethered to a computer! For that matter, I'm still adding dies to my Gi-Normous, Ever-growing QK/Lifestyle Craft die collection! I have a Silouette too and have yet to take it out of the box, lol!

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:07:03 AM
I have the big shot pink and have it for almost 4 years. Love that I could embossed with it besides die cutting.

Bought a silhouette cameo after numerous research and concluded the purchase. I ordered via amazon and had a good bundle. In fact, I strolled it back for the US to Singapore

Call me crazy but I was amazed at how easy it was to use with the software that comes with it. Good enough to trace any shapes and lettering you like online as well as numerous download avenues from Lettering Delights, Miss Kate Cuttables, Silhouette Online Store... Don't even need to go for a subscription at all since a lot of the PNGs, JPEGs, are widely available.

Of course if SVGs cut is what you are looking at for multi layering and effects, then you should upgrade to the silhouette designer edition. miss Kate Cuttables has quite a good discounted offer with 10$ worth of value to purchase SVGs in the online store.

Some references I looked up to determine my purchase as follow:
review of electronic die cut machines
sillhouette cameo
BK gazelle



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Posted: 8/3/2013 1:09:29 PM
Don't know if you are still looking for a die cut machine, but here is a link that compares various machines:
http://www.paperthreads.com/newsletter/Febraury2007/machine_comparisons.htm

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Posted: 8/3/2013 3:27:39 PM
I have a big shot and love it. I also love my cricut, I have been using the cricut craft room and I find it very easy to use. They have free shapes that you can cut every week also. I don't have that many carts, I have the ones from close to my heart and a few others. The ones from close to my heart have so much stuff on them that they are really all I need.

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Posted: 9/22/2013 1:14:00 AM
i love the comparison articles, but i'd like to know which machines can use JPGs or EPSs or PDFs? I want to design my own things and use Adobe Photoshop, which doesn't save as an SVG file.

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Posted: 9/22/2013 2:19:31 AM
I have a cricut expression 2. I LOVE it. I hear there is a new cricut machine coming out January 2014 so excited to see what that has in store. I love the cricut because you don't need to use a computer to use it although it does have the ability to buy images on cricut craft room. I can also take my cartridges to a friends or crop to craft. I love the cartridges and will not buy a cartridge unless I would use a ton of images. So far, I use all of them often! Again, there are some websites out there that sell cricut cartridges at very decent prices.

dald222
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Posted: 9/22/2013 11:54:15 AM
You are able to emboss with the Cameo too. Someone here posted how to do it..You make a cut of a page. Then you use the cut out pages to emboss with a tool
I love my silhouette Cameo too. LOL
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