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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:14:07 AM
The following was sent home from school today. Just wondering if other California schools are implementing this? I guess I either need to be reeducated on the spread of lice or I'm going to assume this is a decision driven by making sure schools get their ADA money.

Head Lice: XXXX Unified School District has implemented new procedures for managing head lice based on national data and standards of care. The data is clear, lice are rarely spread at school. We are now following standards set by the California Department of Public Health, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the National Association of School Nurses, Harvard School of Public Health and many others.

The new standard is that students with eggs or head lice remain in school (rather than being immediately excluded). When lice are found on a child at school, that child's parent will be informed so they can administer treatment.

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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:20:03 AM
That is crazy! How can they say it is not spread at school? Funny the only time any of my kids ever had head lice was when she was in public school. Funny how once she stopped going to school she never in 14 years has had it sense. My other 3 who have all always been homeschooled have never had it.

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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:45:52 AM
I honestly don't know what the policy for lice is at our school but I am terrified of my daughter catching it. I don't know why it doesn't seem like such a big deal for my son if he got it, but it's not.

I mix tea tree oil into her shampoo and conditioner, use mousse on her hair after every washing and she wears her hair up every day with a good dose of hair gel.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:05:02 AM
That's the policy at our school. They don't even bother to inform teachers when a child has lice or send home a note because it is a violation of the student's rights. Because of these new lice policies one teacher in my building had lice in her room for many months because no one knew who did or did not have it. The only reason I think a kid can be sent home is if there are live bugs BUT then only if they are so many inches from the scalp.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:23:17 AM
I don't know about the logic of not catching it at school, but here (Scotland) a child is not sent home from school if head lice is found. The parents get informed and usually a general letter goes out to the class to say be vigilant (meaning you know someone in the class has it!) and that's it.

We did have an issue when dd2 was younger and a child in her class didn't get treated for a long time so multiple children caught it multiple times. What a saga that was!

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Posted: 2/22/2013 2:43:15 AM

The data is clear, lice are rarely spread at school.

I guess I need to be re-educated too. From everything that's ever been sent home from the district nurse, lice is spread through head-to-head contact (i.e. playing, etc), sharing hats or helmets, etc. So now they've decided this contact is not happening at school or it is, but this is not how lice is spread? If it's not spread at school, where is it spread?

I wonder if most daycares (who get paid whether your child is there or not) will change their policies?



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Posted: 2/22/2013 5:20:40 AM

The data is clear, lice are rarely spread at school.

Bulltish!! That's where my kids have caught them every single time!

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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:29:49 AM
Children haven't been excluded from school for lice here in the UK for over 30 years-maybe longer, but that is the length of time I have worked as a specilist nurse on the community and can say with conviction.

If you are wet combing your child's hair carefully every single day, preferably twice a day there is little chance of any odd louse the child picks up actually laying eggs, they are either removed or damaged which prevents them laying eggs.

The research here shows that re infection is usually from an untreated family member- grandma, grandad, aunt/uncle cousin etc etc.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:51:15 AM
Bullshit it is rarely spread at school. My daughter's classroom has had lice since the beginning of the year. It goes from one child to the next to the next. It spread on the bus. It spread in the library from the couches and the headphones. They think they have it under control and then another kid gets it. DD has not worn her hair down one day this year because I'm terrified she's going to get it and given the length and thickness of her hair, we'd have to shave it all off.



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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:53:45 AM
That's nuts! My daughter caught head lice at school (and then I caught it from her). Once you've been through the hassle of dealing with lice, you never want to deal with it again.

That's an insanely stupid policy! I would be pea livid if they did that in my daughters' school!

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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:01:03 AM
That has always been the policy here, for as long as my kids have been in school. I don't have a problem with it.






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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:17:25 AM
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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:18:47 AM
Yeah, I'd like to see the data that shows that it isn't spread at school, either. That sounds like "data" made up by the test score people who are invested in having 100% attendance at all costs.

My youngest has had lice FOUR times, all caught from school. And with a sufficiently long period between them that it wasn't just that we didn't get them all off of her the first time. Nor did she get them family members - no one in our family but her has had them since the first time. Since the second time she had them I am hyper-vigilant about weekly comb checks and the last two infestations have been caught very early. But she definitely got them from school, and in the most recent cases we found them shortly after a day when I'd relented and let her wear her hair down. No more - her long, thick hair is up in a tight ponytail or bun every single school day without exception.

Also incorrect to say that daily combing will prevent lice from laying eggs - an adult louse (the only kind that travels from one head to another) can move to a new head and start laying eggs immediately.




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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:26:48 AM
100% of the time my children have had them, they came from school. Thank goodness only once.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:27:00 AM
Do you think they mean it isn't spread at school anymore then anywhere else with kids. I think kids spread lice, especially girls, because they hug and sit closely, etc.

If they don't want it spread then they shouldn't allow the child to stay at school. How do they find it at school, I think most linear our house is found at home when the parent checks or combs hair. We check dd's hair a couple of times a week, more if she wears her hair down ad school. Is funny that lice never shows up in the preschool classrooms at school. Why is that? I only shows up in the elementary classrooms. I check my preschoolers hair sometimes but not regularly.

Our school used to do lice checks by nurses but my dh (a pedi) put a stop to them. They were expensive for our private school and dh showed studies showing that lice checks at school do nothing to stop lice.

The one time my dd got lice she got it after Jewish new year and our synagogue visits. I assumed she did a lot of hugging her friends happy new year and playing with friends. All of the girls had their hair down.

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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:33:40 AM

The data is clear, lice are rarely spread at school.


I'm sorry, that statement is just ignorant to me. Of course they spread at school. They spread anywhere kids congregate. Do schools have some kind of magic spell over them that keeps lice from spreading while kids are there?

I don't necessarily disagree with their new policy--I'd want to know more. But I certainly disagree with such statement as, "Lice rarely spread at school."

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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:36:55 AM
I second the "bullshit" on headlice not coming from schools!

I feel so bad for the kids that continually have them. It seems like it is the same kids - and they DO get stigmatized from it. The other kids know, and that stigma stays with them for a long time.

I have seen kids that have them so bad they have scabs all over their head from scratching. The parents should suffer some kind of punishment for that!~

After having dealt with head lice hear a few times, I think it should be taken more seriously. I was exhausted after spending hours nitpicking, then washing and drying EVERYTHING in the house and treating the cars, car seats, etc.

We made sure the kids learned to keep their stocking hats jammed in their coat sleeves, instead of in the cubbys with everyone else's hats.

Does anyone elses head itch after reading this thread?

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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:38:18 AM
That is a load of crap.

My daughter has picked up lice three times at school. None of my other kids have had it. There isn't some other place we go where they are picking it up. She has waist-length curly hair and it is a pain in the neck to deal with and I have to take off of work, but guess whose problem that is? Mine. I would never expose someone else's kid.

There are nit removal services that are expensive but effective. I would be MORE than willing to have some of my tax dollars go towards tasking them to come by schools if a kid is infested.

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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:52:40 AM

If you are wet combing your child's hair carefully every single day, preferably twice a day there is little chance of any odd louse the child picks up actually laying eggs


I'm SURE you don't mean to insinuate that children who have gotten lice are the result of lazy parents who don't bother to comb their childrens' hair daily.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:54:14 AM
What?!
Nope, we're in so cal and our district still wants kids home until there are no nits. The kids are checked in the health office before being permitted back in school

Maybe your school district is doing that to reduce the $ loss each day the kids miss school


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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:54:47 AM

The data is clear, lice are rarely spread at school.


Just looking quickly at articles about the studies, the AAP report concerns itself with missing school unneccesarily, and the Harvard report concerns itself with misdiagnosis.

Just wondering where they got the "rarely spread at school" nonsense.



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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:11:20 AM
That is crazy! That's how my daughter got lice this year and last year. She is in 4th grade and the girls drive me crazy as they aer always hugging and touching heads. So many in our school have gotten lice, it was on the news. Yes, it is spread at school! It is going around all over our area, equally at both public and private schools.

When I called the school to report her lice last year, the nurse said I could shampoo it and send her back to school. No way! I would not want another family to go through what we did. We spent so much money, buying extra sheets, towels, got rugs and furniture cleaned (yes, OCD when it comes to lice)! I was picking lice out of her head for days! She missed 5 days of school (over Thanksgiving, or she would have missed more). If they keep kids in school it will get so bad entire families will get it possibly.

This year we knew the warning signs so we caught it right away (got it within 3 days of when she got it last year). Not many lice this time. I check her head every day after school now.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:15:03 AM
Our two experiences with lice have both come from school.

I don't worry about it too much since my boys have short hair. But Sara got it in kindergarten and would not go away! I was unemployed at the time so it was my job to look through her hair every day. I think she missed 5 days of school.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:25:46 AM
Hmm, seems like the school drew some wrong conclusions from their research.

CDC info for schools

The CDC certainly acknowledges that they may be transmitted at school, but also (quite reasonably IMHO) doesn't make a huge deal out of immediately sending a child home. After all, if they were there already, they might as well finish out the school day.

They also seek to have schools do away with no-nit policies based on some of the statements already mentioned by other posters (misidentification, etc).


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Posted: 2/22/2013 10:02:08 AM


WTF!?! We have never had lice and I don't want to find out the hell it causes! That crap needs to be handled at home where it won't spread to others. Everyone I know that had lice (a rare few) got it from their school where infected kids spread it. Crazy.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 10:12:01 AM
Head lice disgust me.

Parents that do not go through the hard work necessary to remove all eggs and end an infestation piss me off. DD caught lice at school 3 times in a row because of others laziness.

This school's administrators are either dumb or uncaring.

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Posted: 2/22/2013 10:25:54 AM

Nope, we're in so cal and our district still wants kids home until there are no nits.


Also in Southern California and my school district has been following the AAPs recommendations for about three years. It isn't just about the ADA...it is about missing a day (or more) of instruction. Colds are contagious, but we don't send home children for runny noses.

Don't get me wrong, I am totally freaked out by lice. Every single time a student in my class gets them, I get a case of psychological head lice. I run to the school nurse begging to be checked at least once a day. However, in 17 years of teaching, I have never once had head lice, but my daughters have and it was a pain in the ass to treat. They did, however, return to school the next day with their hair treated and tied up in pretty hair ties until we made sure all was well.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:06:40 PM
My hair is itchy reading about it.

By the time lice are discovered whoever is going to catch it, will have caught it. I'm not so concerned.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:18:37 PM
My first thought was that this is just one more way for them to make sure that kids are in school so that they can get the $$ from the government.



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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:37:23 PM
The kids I know that have had it all picked it up at school or daycare.

None of the adults around them ever had it. So they didn't get it from them.

Besides, everything I have ever read or heard says that kids are much more likely to even have lice than adults because lice prefer clean hair, and adults are far more likely to have a lot of product in their hair.

So that points to kids getting it from other kids again. And kids see the most kids at school/daycare


To answer the OP, no, at this point our district still requests that kids stay home until it is cleared up. Local daycares/preschools are the same.



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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:40:07 PM

The data is clear, lice are rarely spread at school.

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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:43:41 PM

If you are wet combing your child's hair carefully every single day, preferably twice a day there is little chance of any odd louse the child picks up actually laying eggs


I'm SURE you don't mean to insinuate that children who have gotten lice are the result of lazy parents who don't bother to comb their childrens' hair daily.


I agree...I'm also sure she wasn't insinuating that at all, purely giving excellent advice. If kids pick up head lice during the school day, and have their hair very meticulously wet combed that same day, the louse and any eggs it may have had a chance to lay, will be removed and there will be no ongoing infestation and no prospect of that child infecting someone else. There may be many reasons why a parent may not do this - being unaware there was a need too, a full after school activity programme, etc etc. It is a fact that if every infestation of head lice was caught and dealt with on day one, it would never result in a head with lots of lice and eggs on it, and the spread of lice would be stopped in its tracks.




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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:46:15 PM

The data is clear, lice are rarely spread at school.


I really can't even believe that. I usually believe studies and statistics (to a fault probably, ha) but I just can't ever believe this about lice! From experience... it doesn't ring true! I mean, what?


I, too, am a mom extremely paranoid about my kids getting lice. I think I would end up in tears for as long as we had it. I just know I wouldn't handle it well emotionally! I have three daughters and I have long, thick hair. If we ever got it I'd just break down. haha

I guess I'm saying, if the kid has lice, keep them out of school!! If we got a note saying a kid in my child's class had lice and was staying in school I'd have a major, major, MAJOR problem with that!!
Thankfully my kids' school make the child leave and won't even allow them back in to school until the nurse checks their head! Our school had a major lice outbreak last year. I'm still SO glad my kids never got it!!


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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:50:22 PM

Also incorrect to say that daily combing will prevent lice from laying eggs - an adult louse (the only kind that travels from one head to another) can move to a new head and start laying eggs immediately.


Proper combing damages the lice- that is what stops them laying more eggs. I've never had a problem with any or my kids even when there has been a lot of infested children in their schools- because I have always assiduously wet combed their hair.

I would much rather them be in their schools learning than be sitting at home due to head lice. They don't kill and are easily dealt with.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:52:12 PM
The truth is ~ Lice ARE spread at school.

to the "new" policy the OP posted.

It is propaganda, and all about the money that missed days for kids costs the schools.

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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:52:52 PM
Um..yea. Where else are they getting the lice, if not at school?

We had a year where we fought it about four times, but guess what, never during the summer when the kids were not in school. I can remember dd having it in May of that year, and then she was clear until October. Then November and DECEMBER. I hated that year.




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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:21:50 PM
Yep, my older kids are now in middle and high school and my youngest one will be attending private school, so this new policy doesn't really affect me, but I still think it's terrible. I think if you've ever had a child who has had lice, you know what a big deal it is to get rid of it. My daughter got it one summer at a sleepover at her cousin's house. I spent the entire week picking through her hair, washing sheets, etc.. My SIL bought the shampoo and called it good. Needless to say their problem lasted for months and went well into the school year with her daughter being sent home every so often. So this is the part that irritates me the most, "that child's parent will be informed so they can administer treatment." Because parents like my SIL don't have the incentive to be as diligent about getting rid of it if their kid can still show up to school.

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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:28:26 PM
I thought you go to school to GET lice.

This year, the same year DD decided to grow her hair long, we got the letter home four times and it's only Feb. Not the 'there is lice in your grade' letter. The, 'there is lice in your classroom' letter. I feel badly for whomever keeps getting it or the four kids who got it or the 2 and two or whatever. I keep using the rosemary preventive shampoo and spray.

I got lice as a kid and my grandmother went all Edward Scissorhands on me and chopped my hair off in the most unflattering way. Boy short. And ugly.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 1:35:43 PM
We're in California and we get a note home for lice, pink eye, and all kinds of stuff. There's a big list.

I think they're able to stay at school if they're being actively treated, but I forget. When our DS was in kindergarten, the mom of a girl with lice "outed" herself and sent home a bunch of helpful information for the other parents, in case they were to experience the same thing.

The weird thing in our district is that kids get sent home for pink eye and can't come back until they're in treatment, but most of the local pediatricians hate that policy and recommended letting it pass. When our DS got sent home for pink eye, the doctor's nurse was SO exasperated and told us to just send him back the next day. They didn't even want to see us. It was weird.

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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:02:34 PM
Saying lice are rarely spread at school is crap!! My dd shares a desk with a girl who had lice and guess what? She got it too. It is rampant in the classroom once it starts especially in cold weather where it spreads from coats etc hung on racks. Here, if there is an outbreak, personal belongings are put in plastic garbage bags. Kids are not even allowed to sit on the rug. Our school does not require children to go home if lice or nits are discovered. Parents are notified and instructions are given. Just my thoughts on the matter


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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:10:02 PM
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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:18:20 PM
We got a note home in the fall to say that a child in DS's class had lice and to check our children. The policy was to send the child home until they were treated and had no further signs of lice (as determined by the office staff - we don't have school nurses here).

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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:31:28 PM
I do quick checks once a week. I do it more often if I hear of anyone who has it in our grades. If I do a thorough check on my dd, it takes 1 1/2 hours...she has extremely thick hair!! ds is easy, we keep it short.

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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:41:06 PM

The data is clear, lice are rarely spread at school.


I'm sorry, that statement is just ignorant to me.
To me too, but only because I'm having a Sheldon moment over the lack of noun/verb agreement.


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Posted: 2/22/2013 10:44:56 PM
I will also call that bullcrap. If it isn't being passed at school where is it happening? Kids are spending how many hours a week in school? Where else are they spending a lot of time? Parents are not spreading lice.


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Posted: 2/23/2013 3:51:04 AM

I do quick checks once a week. I do it more often if I hear of anyone who has it in our grades. If I do a thorough check on my dd, it takes 1 1/2 hours...she has extremely thick hair!! ds is easy, we keep it short.





Am I really hearing that people wet their kids' hair and comb it twice a day? Who has time for that??


One and a half hours...yikes!

Once a day, preferably on returning from school, is enough. Lightly spray the hair with a water bottle and comb through the whole head. If time is short, as a minimum concentrate on behind the ears and around the neck, as this is where a new visitor is most likely to be found. If any eggs have been laid that day by a louse that had just landed, you may miss them, but if you continue with a daily check, you will hopefully spot the eggs in your next sweep, or the newly hatched baby eight days later. It takes another 9 to 12 days before that baby grows in to an egg laying adult (assuming it is female of course, and it takes two to tango, so for fertile eggs to be laid you need a male and a female), so there are lots of opportunities with daily combing to break the cycle. Eggs often don't come off with the comb and may need to be slid off the hair with your finger nails, as do nits (the empty egg casing).

It is time consuming, and labour intensive. No doubt about it. But my DS only took a few minutes to do, and my DD who has long, thick hair, would take maybe fifteen minutes, and I'd sit behind her on the settee as she had a snack and watched telly on the floor in front of me when she got home from school and it didn't seem like a major chore. It is much easier to do this than deal with a whole head of lice and nits, and although this method can't prevent infestation or reinfection, it deals with it before it is any kind of an issue at all. It requires no chemicals, and is very cheap to do.

I am certainly no saint, and did not practice this daily throughout my kids' schooling, but I did do it for weeks at a time whenever there was an alert from school. I also made a visual check very regularly throughout their primary school days.



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Posted: 2/23/2013 5:07:03 AM
I have never had them and I am 37. My dd has never had them and since i take care of my step kids they never get them. The girls hair is always put in a french braid and never down for school. I also treat there head with mayo every Sunday. They never get it. even when there is a brake out in school.


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Posted: 2/23/2013 7:14:16 AM
our school sends home a note that advises either your kid has it or someone the the class. they also send the information/treatment sheet. while it ASKS you not to send your kids back til they are clear, there is no check done for re-admittance and my understanding is they won't say your child is unable to attend school.

parents won't tell you they found lice on their child a week after a sleepover with 10 other girls because they don't want to embarrass themselves or their child. it's annoying and a huge part of the problem.

lice picking service came to my house and she said their best business was a private schools. my mom said we must live in some kind of ghetto (?!) because she talks to "everyone" outside of the city and it's not a problem at any of their schools. uh huh.

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Posted: 2/23/2013 8:06:39 AM
I know some parents with boys who could care less about the policy. The nurse said that boys are less likely to get it because they have shorter hair. But I have three girls and they have long thick hair. I do not want them to get it! I wish there was a strict policy at the school. However, I am a SAHM, so it's easy for me for them to stay home. With working parents it could be hard.

ETA: Sorry, I have been corrected!! I am just saying the nurse told me it's harder for boys to get it because they have short hair. I have no experience with boys getting lice. I'm not saying I am an expert on boys and lice but I am on girls and lice (unfortunately).

I always thought stomach virus was the worst to deal with of childhood illnesses, But after my daughter got lice, stomach virus became much less of a threat. That will go away in time, but lice and last and last! It just takes missing a couple of lice in the head checks!

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Posted: 2/23/2013 8:09:38 AM

If you are wet combing your child's hair carefully every single day, preferably twice a day there is little chance of any odd louse the child picks up actually laying eggs


I'm SURE you don't mean to insinuate that children who have gotten lice are the result of lazy parents who don't bother to comb their childrens' hair daily.


You know, I wasn't going to respond to this initially. However I am one of the least judgemental people you will come across here. Of course I wasn't implying any such thing- just explaining the process that I was teaching as a specialist nurse ( health visitor) for many years.

It really shouldn't take long, especially when you get into a routine. And to keep your child at school, louse- free without chemicals- yes I believe the investment of time-during which you can have a chat with your child as they have to stay put!- is well worth it, and in my 30 years of experience, very effective. Yes it can take a couple of weeks to totally clear an infestation as you have to deal with the hatched eggs. If everyone in contact with that child is properly combing their own hair it shouldn't be a problem. This has been the way it is done here in the UK for over 30 years.

You do have to do it methodically though- sectioning the hair off etc in order to be effective. The usual way we comb our hair isn't any good for this purpose.


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