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Posted: 2/23/2013 10:42:02 AM

The data is clear, lice are rarely spread at school.



I'm not buying this. I would really like to see their "data." I have a feeling it's creative interpretation of data, with $$ as the motivator.

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Posted: 2/23/2013 10:50:25 AM

The data is clear, lice are rarely spread at school.



Yeah, right!!! I swear my kids got head lice about two weeks into the first semester after summer vacation, 3 or 4 different times. I always had the overwhelming desire to burn their clothes, bedding, anything that might have come in contact with those disgusting little things.


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Posted: 2/23/2013 1:01:57 PM
Anyone else's head itching right now???

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Posted: 2/23/2013 1:18:45 PM

I know some parents with boys who could care less about the policy. The nurse said that boys are less likely to get it because they have shorter hair.


Boys are less likely to get lice because they don't share hair accessories and hats like girls do. It has nothing to do with hair length.

My youngest son got lice once. A couple of weeks before his showed up he said he saw this bug on his desk. Here you are expected to do a lice treatment and continue to go to school.

I'm more worried my kids will bring bedbugs home. It's cheaper to get rid of lice than it is to get rid of bedbugs.

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Posted: 2/23/2013 1:20:44 PM
Policy at our school as well. Thought is that some kids miss to much school because of lice. That's what we've been told anyway.


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Posted: 2/23/2013 1:30:38 PM
One of the few things I've never known a black kid to have. Thank you God for our greasy heads!



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Posted: 2/23/2013 1:39:04 PM
Does anyone else start scratching their head when reading stories about lice

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Posted: 2/23/2013 2:01:30 PM
That's the policy here. Lice are nuissance, but not an "illness" such as strep throat, the flu , etc. They cause discomfort but not a danger to your healthy. Kids aren't excluded from school.

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Posted: 2/23/2013 4:09:52 PM
Sorry, I'm just saying what the nurse told me. I don't have boys, so I don't know how they get it. They aren't all huggy like girls are. Which I can't stand. I don't want girls coming up and hugging my girls because they don't like it either. We all like our personal space.

But the teachers do say that they boys are constantly sharing baseball hats. It wasn't said in the context of lice, it was said in the context of a distraction at school. So, boys could actually get it from sharing baseball hats.

We have used peppermint tree oil shampoo for the past month, and it must be helping! We made it through the lice outbreak at the beginning of the month.


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Posted: 2/23/2013 9:00:24 PM
Welcome to the world of making things easier for everyone. If a child is sent home with lice, then a parent has to stay home with him/her. They are suddenly changing all of these policies. It is ridiculous.

Just like now they are saying breast cancer screening and other cancer screenings aren't helpful. Why is everything changing all of a sudden?



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Posted: 2/23/2013 9:19:32 PM
"Am I really hearing that people wet their kids' hair and comb it twice a day? Who has time for that??"

If your child *has* lice, *then* you do the combing twice a day. It's part of the treatment and it takes time.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 11:11:17 PM
I was very surprised by the letter. Over the years, my children have brought home letters stating they had a student with lice in their classroom, and it always seemed like the worst thing in the world.

This new policy came out, and I was very surprised at the change.

Then when I thought about it, not surprised.

There is very little schools can do about lice. Notify the parents. Then what? Can they force them to get treatment? No.

Keep them out of school until they are lice free? Maybe. Maybe not. How many personnel have to delve through the hair, and how many miss a nit.

Better to train our children not to share hats, combs, etc. Lice are an annoyance, a parasite, gross, seriously gross, but not a disease carrier that threatens our population.


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Posted: 2/23/2013 11:20:04 PM
I wonder if someone at the school misunderstood the 'data' and read that lice, while unpleasant, aren't hazardous/dangerous (like flu or strep) and that once treatment was started could attend school and it became "lice aren't spread at school".

I agree that lice are spread at places where kids congregate and share close spaces. I agree it is horribly annoying and time consuming and frustrating to rid a child (especially girls) of lice.

DD with long, fine, thick blond hair got it at summer daycare and it took us over a month to get rid of it completely with daily combings & lice treatment routines each week and redoing her bedding and her zoo of stuffed sleep animals. DD got way too familiar with the oldies TV show station (greeeeeen acres is the place...) while I spent 2 hours at a time with her in my lap going through her hair with a comb & my finger nails.

I figure it is an annoyance, encourage DD to be careful about hugging and sharing head gear, and just go along.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:18:38 AM
I am dealing with this in my classroom right now. I have a child that was just placed in my room due to a teacher in my grade level walking out. This child has had lice habitually since Sept. the siblings have all gone through it over the past two years.

It frustrates me because when is enough enough? I teach primary and we are always working close in proximity and I fear that this will be passed during those times.

I'm not sure if there is a right or wrong way to handle it but it is a very difficult and time consuming thing to get rid of.

I had it a few times growing up and I would probably walk out if I brought it home to my babies.

I will say that with this particular parent it is a lack of education (they thought shampoo only would rid them of the pests) and lack of care. The mom is decked out daily but the kids are poorly groomed and unkempt. It's truly a sad situation.


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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:26:56 AM

If your child *has* lice, *then* you do the combing twice a day. It's part of the treatment and it takes time.


There was a poster above who said that she was doing the combing once or twice a day on a regular basis, lice or no lice, as a preventative. And that it was a great time to chat with your kid, implication being that any mom who values communication with her child would do the same.

I've done the combing on my younger daughter's long hair four times now (several times over two weeks for four different infestations). I love my kid, but no way in hell am I going to do that on a regular basis, week in and week out, so that someone else's kid can come to school crawling with lice and not be removed.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:48:26 AM
This policy has been instituted in our county as well. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. In my opinion, they don't want the kids taken out of class because it reduces instruction time. We have to be prepared for all the standardized testing, you know! Of course it is spread at school-that is the only way they move from kid to kid, especially when you have parents who don't take care of their children, and keep sending them back when they haven't been treated.



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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:50:39 AM

If you are wet combing your child's hair carefully every single day, preferably twice a day there is little chance of any odd louse the child picks up actually laying eggs, they are either removed or damaged which prevents them laying eggs.

UkSue, are you talking about during an outbreak or 365 days a year even if there is no threat?


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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:48:48 AM
We've been really lucky. Neither of my girls got lice at school or elsewhere. I did have a child show up with lice at a Girl Scout day camp I was volunteering at. Several of the mom-counselors freaked out about it but one of the staff, who was a nurse, calmed us all down. What she reminded us is that lice don't carry disease, they won't make you ill, they don't do any lasting damage. If you child gets lice its a major pain in the butt and the "ick factor" is high, but its not strep, its not chicken pox, its not a norovirus. No one ever died of lice. So while it is annoying for those of us parents who are careful about our kids hair, in terms of community health, lice just isn't a big deal.


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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:31:39 PM

This child has had lice habitually since Sept. the siblings have all gone through it over the past two years.


The neighboring school district turned a family like this into CYS and after a year of the mother refusing to deal with it, the kids were removed. So often cases of parental neglect fall through the cracks.



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Posted: 2/24/2013 8:31:17 PM
"There was a poster above who said that she was doing the combing once or twice a day on a regular basis, lice or no lice, as a preventative. And that it was a great time to chat with your kid, implication being that any mom who values communication with her child would do the same.

I've done the combing on my younger daughter's long hair four times now (several times over two weeks for four different infestations). I love my kid, but no way in hell am I going to do that on a regular basis, week in and week out, so that someone else's kid can come to school crawling with lice and not be removed. "
Well, as the mom of three girls, that's just not possible. That would make my schedule:
5-8 Hair combing
8-5 Work
6 Dinner
7-10 Hair combing

No way is that happening.




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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:58:24 PM
Sadly, I have become a reluctant expert in lice identification and removal.

My credentials:

-My daughter brought them home years ago and the other three of us caught them (including two short-haired males) before I wised up.

-Since then, I started working in a theatre camp every summer. We have an infestation EVERY SINGLE YEAR, and I am the the go-to person for search-and-identification.

-I have helped several relatives and mom friends with licey kids. More than one grateful friend has suggested that I "hang out a shingle," but my ambitions lie elsewhere...

My thoughts: I am not exaggerating when I say I have probably removed more than a thousand nits, either by carefully tugging/sliding it off the hair shaft with my fingernails, pulling the hair out of the scalp, or snipping the hair with a scissors. The female louse adheres the nit to the hair shaft with a VERY effective adhesive. Live lice are infinitely harder to find. They're wily and fast and they stay far away from from artificial light. They also stay far away from combs and searching fingers. That's why I'm so surprised by the efficacy of simple wet-combing. I have rarely been successful removing nits OR lice with a comb. Even the "fine nit combs" included in lice shampoo kits can slide right over a nit. (Caveat: dead lice can be removed with a comb; live lice can be removed with a comb after a lice shampoo has rendered them dopey and sluggish.)

Contrary to a school policy cited here, the number of inches a louse is from the scalp means absolutely nothing. A mili-second later, he'll be somewhere else. On the other hand, nits are usually laid about a half inch from the scalp, so the farther the nit is from the scalp, the greater the chance it is an empty already-hatched nit.

Be careful about recommendations for tea tree oil. Research the warnings first. On the other hand, embrace mayonnaise or olive oil as an alternate treatment. (For the lice, not the nits.)

Don't go overboard cleaning the stuff in your house. A live louse desperately wants to stay on a head. They're tenacious. If they do fall off, they can only survive for 24-48 hours. Basically, they have little interest in your sofa or towels.

Regarding the OP's question:

Of course kids get lice at school. My understanding is that the new school policies have to do with 1. The legal implications of preventing a child from attending school, 2. The serious interruption in education in places where there have been major outbreaks (I think New Zealand was one?), 3. Misdiagnosis, even when nits are present. (It's very difficult to tell if a nit sack is empty, so conceivably, a child could be lice-free, but still have (empty) nits in her hair.)

Why are people mentioning the ADA? Do they mean the Americans with Disabilities Act? Can someone please explain?

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Posted: 2/25/2013 12:39:27 PM
If you have head lice or if someone in the classroom has head lice, get Greenbug for People. This stuff is totally green and safe but wipes out head lice better than anything I have ever tried! My three daughters have thick blonde hair and head lice are magnetized to them. I was sick of the pesticides so found Greenbug online and thought what the heck... I am SOLD! This stuff is great - you apply it and don't even have to comb out the nits. When I get that awful memo from school that someone in the class has head lice, I simply spray the backpacks, jackets and their hair with a light spritz before school to repel them. Cannot say enough good about it. Head lice policies are changing so your kids are going to b more exposed. Get Greenbug for People to protect them and treat if you have to.
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