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Posted: 3/8/2013 7:57:53 PM
We are in the middle of buying a house which I have completely fallen in love with. I haven't even been in it but my husband gave me a thorough photo/video tour and after the third picture he sent, I was ready to make the offer. Anyway. It's an older home and mostly updated - new kitchen, new flooring, updated bathrooms - but there are still a few projects to do.

The first on my list is the stairway. It hasn't got a railing on one side and not much of one on the other. Nowadays you couldn't build a house with a stairway like this. I want to add rails on both sides but I don't know if I should make them match the rails on the catwalk or scrap all the rails and go with something more modern on both the stairs and the upper walkway.

Existing stairs:


Walkway with rails:


The jury is still out on the paneling. It's got a lot of character and is original to the house. But...paneling. I don't know. We can decide that later.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:05:25 PM
I'd do new on both


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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:23:16 PM
I kind of like the paneling. The railings, not so much. I'd get rid of all of them and start over.







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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:26:51 PM
I am SO HAPPY you found something you like. Looks really cool.

I kind of like the walkway rails but probably only b/c I grew up with something similar. I really like what Beth posted.

As for those open stairs, I'd be falling to a thousand deaths (or at least broken bones) every day of my life.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:27:19 PM
I'd change all the railing. I really like the railing Beth posted and agree with her on the paneling. I'd get rid of it for sure.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:27:59 PM
Get rid of the paneling and the railing. I would look into the glass or lucite with a floating stairway like that


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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:29:29 PM
I also agree with Beth that if you don't use the gates for the walkway, reuse them somewhere else. I do like them.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:31:06 PM
I agree with 26.TwoPea on the paneling and the railing. I love what she posted. I also think that a modern wrought iron railing could be really cool as well.

Paneling can be painted. You could do that in the mean time to save money if you aren't planning on the expense of tearing the paneling out and sheetrocking over it.

I do think that the existing railing could be cool if you had very modern European furnishings or vintage 20th mid century modern furnishings.

I do love the house. I don't like those open stairs. I had a house with those, and it was so easy to catch your foot and fall because of the openings. I love where the staircase is located and think it could be an amazing feature in your home.

You'd get more bang for your buck if you redid the staircase and upstairs railings than if you spent money sheetrocking the walls.



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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:34:40 PM

We are in the middle of buying a house which I have completely fallen in love with. I haven't even been in it but my husband gave me a thorough photo/video tour and after the third picture he sent, I was ready to make the offer.


I still can't believe that you are buying a house (& planning a reno) without having the house structually looked at.

How would this other rail be attached? How much would this cost?

What is behind the panneling? drywall? a good moisture barrier?

I wish you all the best with this purchase and I hope all your hopes and dreams for this house come true.

I am surprised that your offer of purchase and sale does not include a home inspection. The amount of money spent on a home inspection could save you a LOT of money down the road.

Again, good luck & have fun.



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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:40:02 PM
Who said they didn't have it looked at or inspected? Compwalla isn't out there. Her DH is handling all this. But they're not stupid. LOL!

ETA: My contract stipulated that it was pending inspection and title search.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:40:05 PM
I like the glass but I also think cabled railing would look nice. I don't want something too heavy. And the paneling is probably staying mostly because that is why I fell for this house. My exact words? "Oh my god I love that Brady Bunch living room." Maybe I will change my mind after being there awhile. Maybe not. It is really the only room in the house that still feels sort of vintage. There is wet bar in a corner of the living room. How Mad Men is that? If it is really worn and gross we will probably take it down but the people who owned this house before us seem like they took really good care of the place. They owned it 43 years.

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ETA: the home inspection is scheduled for Wednesday. I'm smitten, not stupid.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:42:36 PM
STOP! Do not buy this house! The toilet paper goes OVER the roll. Are you sure you can deal with this?


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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:45:53 PM
There was no mention of an inspection.

I never said *s-d*.

Thanks for the update where you mention the inspection this upcoming week.

I truly do wish you the best.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:46:38 PM
OMG! All the storage in the game room.

Love the front of the house. The gate. Does it match the gates you have inside? Can you use them in the garden out front somehow?

I also like the shaped window area in the dining room.

Sorry--I'd be turning the wet bar into some kind of hidden library. LOL!



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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:52:11 PM
The game room used to be a garage. It has been closed in and has its own heat and a/c. That is why there are three zones in the house instead of two. I have a sneaking suspicion that the mrs sewed or quilted because of how that room is laid out. One of the cabinets opens and there are outlets at the back and a table which I suspect is where her sewing machine sat. Plus all those shelves at the end look like they were built for fabric. But that could just be me projecting because that room is totally going to be my sewing space. The boys are getting their man cave so Mom is getting the former garage.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 8:58:15 PM
i'd scrap the panelling also and go with the modern look, if that matches the rest of the house. you could do glass panel type sides to those overlooks and stairways, or if you like the industrial look: pipe and cable. i'd scrap the carpet on the treads is possible too.



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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:01:02 PM
i like the glass, but i was going to suggest cable.

if you have kids, the glass would be dirty all the time and not fun.

the stairs remind me of the brady's house. : )

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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:12:11 PM

There was no mention of an inspection.

I never said *s-d*.

Thanks for the update where you mention the inspection this upcoming week.

I truly do wish you the best.



I re-read my OP and see where you could get that we're buying it without checking it out. My husband is already there working and house hunting. I'm still here. He toured the house in person and sent me the pics and video. We made an offer that day and we have fifteen days to get the house inspected and we have the chance to walk away if it isn't in good shape. I just totally fell in love (and so did my DH) the second I saw it. It's hard to be rational but I promise, we are. I'm an optimist; in my head everything is fine and we are moving in eight weeks. Mentally I'm already arranging my furniture and claiming the smallest downstairs bedroom for my office.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:12:58 PM
If you like the paneling, keep it. Paneling is making a comeback. (So I'm told) I think the house has a cool vibe. I like the railings in the photo 26.Two.Pea posted.

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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:18:43 PM
That is some kind of a neat house. Congrats!

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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:29:29 PM
Oh, I can see so much potential in that house! I love the storage in the kitchen. I'm with you on the cook top, but all those pull out cabinets are awesome. I also love the brick exterior. We don't see extensive exterior brick in SoCal. I could set up a bed in that game room along with all my sewing and crafting things and never leave it. I can see why you fell for this home.

That staircase does give me a knot in my stomach with the lack of rails and the open stair treads. I am now on permanent disability from a fall down my stairs, so I admit that colors my reaction. All stairs make me nervous now, but the open look of those freaks me out.

My first instinct is to pull the paneling, but it does give the room that rich old lodge feel. That is one decision I couldn't make until I was standing in the room with it. Depending on the condition and your taste in furniture, it could be really cool. My first project would be those stairs.

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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:31:17 PM
I'd kill for the storage that house has.

I like the look of the glass railing, but it looks too commercial for me to want to put it in a house. I think corporate building. But it could grow on me.

Good luck with the house and the move and everything. Dh will be picking out our new home by himself this summer. I hope he finds something good.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:39:13 PM
lol, Brady Bunch was the first thing that came to mind when I looked at the staircase.

Trends come and go. If you like the paneling, keep it. Personally, I like those iron railings on the walkway.
Course, I'm not one to follow trends...I decorate the way I like whether it appeals to anyone else or not.




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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:39:53 PM
I like the house a lot. I think the paneling is sort of cool. I would live with the paneling for awhile and see if you guys like it.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:49:05 PM

That staircase does give me a knot in my stomach with the lack of rails and the open stair treads. I am now on permanent disability from a fall down my stairs, so I admit that colors my reaction. All stairs make me nervous now, but the open look of those freaks me out.


I remember you posting about that. If I remember right, an animal tripped you up. Yes? It was a really bad fall. Very scary. I always turn the lights on now when I go up and down the stairs because of what you posted.

The open stairs make me a little nervous but add the lack of rail and I can't live with it the way it is. That's why we're planning ahead to get that done. I don't have toddlers but I do have two kids and I'd feel much safer with proper handrails on both sides.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:53:59 PM
My inlaws did their railing and stairway in posts and big cable. The posts are black and the cable is silver. It looks really cool. They get a lot of compliments on it. Best of all it is tough and will hold up for forever!

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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:56:26 PM
After seeing the whole house, I would keep the paneling. So cool in a Mad Men sort of way and not so much Brady Bunch. I could live in the game room! The stairs scare me. I'd do some kind of modern contemporary look.

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Posted: 3/8/2013 9:57:14 PM
The paneling combined with cable rails would be very cool.
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Posted: 3/8/2013 10:05:48 PM
Yes, railings before anything else. I think I would like them to match. I like the railings that Beth posted, but not love them. The storage is wonderful. I could live in the garage!

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Posted: 3/8/2013 10:14:47 PM

I remember you posting about that. If I remember right, an animal tripped you up. Yes? It was a really bad fall. Very scary. I always turn the lights on now when I go up and down the stairs because of what you posted.


You remember correctly. My stairs have open treads too and as I was walking down them, my big male cat jumped through the stair treads from underneath the stairs and just happened to choose the tread I was stepping onto. He landed on the stair seconds before I continued my step and I stepped right on him, pitching me forward and throwing me down the rest of the stairs head first. I think he was standing on the desk that was under the stairs for him to have chosen a stair tread that was up so high to jump onto. Good news is the kitty had no squashed organs!

Oh, and I did have a light on at the time and I was holding the hand rail. It was just unfortunate timing for us to land on the same stair. You have a kitty too, don't you? It is the open tread, not the railing style that makes stairs and kitties a bad combo.

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Posted: 3/8/2013 10:24:03 PM
Great house! I'd keep the paneling. Live with it awhile. Then decide.

I smile because in the mid-90's when the trend was still lots of shiny brass, white, hunter green and plum and turning mid-century homes into "traditional" clones all the rage, I recall riffing on the then-hilarious idea that someone would someday lovingly restore all the 50's-70's finishes and infrastructure we were working so hard to eradicate.

Now that Mad Men has renewed appreciation for the Mid-Mo home, it's great to see one in such pristine condition.



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Posted: 3/8/2013 10:30:50 PM
I love love the paneling, it has a Swedish Mod vibe that would go great with railing like this...that paneling is what makes that room. It's now new and on trend, so you'd be good for the next decade.



Compwalla, google modern cantilevered stairs and you'll find lots of great options.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 10:33:50 PM
I have two cats and a dog. If nothing else, I will always be aware that they could jump through these stairs. The cats already tend to stampede by when we're going up or down the stairs so I'm used to watching for them. I'll have to be on the lookout for them emerging from between the steps now, too.

This house is in Texas. They are in the middle of a boom and houses are going up like weeds. Builders are nine or ten months out and houses only stay on the market two or three days. We looked at so many nice new houses with modern open floor plans and honestly, I hated them. They are lovely but they are just not for me. Out in the middle of nowhere, no trees, no shops or businesses, just winding planned subdivisions with monotonously similar houses. They remind me of fancier, more expensive military housing where all the houses are nearly the same. After 22 years of that I wanted something unique, something with a little character, in a neighborhood with trees and a grocery store close by.

The couple that owns this house bought when it was just a few years old. They are retired now and moved to a planned retirement community, to a smaller place that is easier for older people to care for. They listed this house last year for 50k more than we're paying. It stayed on the market seven months and they lowered the price a little twice. The took it off the market in December, had a brand new roof put on, did the updates to the kitchen, flooring, and baths, and put it back on the market for the price we offered. No one has lived in it since they did the updates; the bathrooms are so new no one has ever showered in them. Our offer was $4 less a square foot than the comps in the neighborhood. If the inspection goes well, we'll be on track to close before the end of April.

I was a little disappointed when we didn't get the other older house we made an offer on but in the end, I think it worked to our advantage. This house is 1000 sq ft bigger, has a lot of the heavy updating already done, and only costs a little bit more than we offered on the other older house. That deal went south because this one was out there waiting. That's as superstitious as I get.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 10:37:13 PM
I think I'd do something like this for the railing, and I would match the balcony part to the stairs.


I kind of like the paneling, actually. I definitely would not make a decision about it until I'd lived with it for a while. I think it gives the room character and has the potential to be a real show-stopper if done right (or at least it looks that way in the pictures - sometimes reality doesn't match up!)

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Posted: 3/8/2013 10:40:42 PM
I do like the cable railing with the wooden rails. I've pinned a bunch of ideas. My FIL is a serious woodworker - he built all their kitchen cabinets - and my husband is thinking of using his woodshop to craft all the rails. You can buy the bits for the cabling and DIY the whole thing. I like how it is visually light and keeps the visual of the floating staircase without making me worry I'm going to snap a femur.


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Posted: 3/8/2013 10:46:59 PM
I love the cable railing


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Posted: 3/8/2013 10:53:05 PM
I don't like cables or glass, I would do some simple, cool wood railings. Definitely lose the iron ones



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Posted: 3/9/2013 1:10:47 AM
I love the house, even the paneling in the livingroom (kinda shocked that I do!). I am sure you are salivating at the new sewing room! Where will you put that really cool tile triptych that you have? (I promise I don't stalk, I just loved it when you posted it)


I remember you posting about that. If I remember right, an animal tripped you up. Yes? It was a really bad fall. Very scary. I always turn the lights on now when I go up and down the stairs because of what you posted.



Animal?? I thought she tripped on her cervix?

Congrats on your house, I hope it passes the inspection with flying colors! (kinda chuckling that someone thinks you wouldn't get an inspecttion. What kind of dumbass buys one without one??)


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Posted: 3/9/2013 1:24:01 AM
Funny you should ask about the triptych. I have been scrolling through the pics thinking about that very thing. I think I have it hung too high up in this house and if I hung it over the fireplace in the new place it will be lower and easier to see. There are lots of possibilities. I was considering the dining room but the frame doesn't at all go with my dining room furniture.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 2:48:52 AM
I wasn't sure about the panelling until I saw the picture that shows the wet bar. I love the whole room and I think you could make it into a gorgeous space. If it was all throughout the house I would hate it but one room can be made into a feature.

I like the glass panelling or cable rails that have been linked. I would get rid of the iron railing because I don't think it really links with the rest of the house. I like it though so would use it in the garden etc.

That games room is amazing!! Being able to have desks and storage and then being able to close them away is such a brilliant idea. Love the window seats too - I would have had a very hard time not just buying the house on that along LOL.

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Posted: 3/9/2013 6:28:28 AM
My thoughts:

- that game room would be my scrapbook room

- I would kill myself falling down that staircase the first time I used it

- the paneling in the living room would look cool if it was painted a lighter color. My preference would be to remove it, though

- Love all of the well thought out storage in kitchen

- I would pick a style of railing for both stair cases and do both of them the same way.

- I want to get in the yard and do a bit of landscaping.


Cool house- I hope it works out well!



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Posted: 3/9/2013 6:40:08 AM
Oh, wow, that house is gorgeous. I love the paneling and would keep it. But I am the one who can't watch Property Brothers when they gleefully take a sledge hammer to a mid century house.

The trees are fabulous. You've lived in TX before so you know what an asset they are.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 6:57:28 AM
I love that house! Very nice. I like the cable and wood stair rails -- you'll have to do that first.

I think the paneling could be really cool looking -- smart move to wait on it. With the picture of the fireplace, it looks very 1960s. In a good and classy way.

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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:00:33 AM
I would keep the paneling. I have to have a "darker" room in my house. If you are prone to headaches, light and bright rooms can get to you after a while. The paneling seems to tone down some of the brightness without being overdone.



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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:17:17 AM
I love the space you have there, fabulous but I have to admit I can't decide if the paneling is wonderful in a retro sort of way or awful...sorry

My first thought was glass/stainless steel almost exactly like the Houzz pics that were posted near the top.





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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:19:59 AM
Since the paneling is not that faux by-the-sheet stuff but apparently some custom design, I think it could work. If it has "oranged up" over time and you're not fond of that, you could restain it. I would consider getting a color consult from somebody who specializes in that in order to figure out how to maximize the wow factor and work with it--getting the wall color right will be key. I think I would lose the iron and go with something new for the stairs and where the iron is now.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 11:45:12 AM

But I am the one who can't watch Property Brothers when they gleefully take a sledge hammer to a mid century house.

The trees are fabulous. You've lived in TX before so you know what an asset they are.


Yes to both points! I love the retro look and almost toured a house with a kitchen that looked like a diner. But I thought that was maybe too over the top. The floor was black and white checked tile and the barstools at the counter were diner-style that swiveled. We passed and I'm ok with that.

The listing online only showed one picture, the front of the house taken from across the street. There are trees all over the property. That and the look and feel of the neighborhood are what intrigued me. I emailed the listing to my husband and said, "You have to get inside this house. I must see it." The thought of living in a brand-new treeless subdivision just makes me shudder.


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Posted: 3/9/2013 12:41:14 PM
I would keep the paneling. Take out the exsisting railing, and have your dh make one of wood and cables, like the picture posted. I would use wood color and similiar wood to the beams on the ceiling for ALL the railings. That way you are tying EVERYTHING together. Right now there is just too many textures. The wood, the carpet, the paneling, the beams, the rail, etc. Try to bring it down to less, and I think it will look great!!! Have you thought about ripping out the carpet and putting light wood in?





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