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Posted: 3/29/2013 1:50:59 PM
***Update***

When I arrived on Friday afternoon to pick her the Assistant Principal was waiting with her. He took us aside and asked her if she was feeling better and then apologized to me profusely. He stated that the "teacher" was severely reprimanded (he can't actually tell me what punishment was given) and that I won't have to worry about something like this ever again. I do know that she is on administrative leave and had to apologize to each child individually.

This is a public school and it was the teacher's aide that put the film on. Which makes it 100 times worse because she works with these kids every day!!!

I heard that 2 boys became physically ill during the part they watched.

Hannah did fine the rest of the day, she would pop off questions from time to time but we didn't have anymore tears. We took her and her sister to see The Crood's and that helped erase her bad thoughts. Her short term memory can only handle so much so the new replaces the old and we are good to go!

I am waiting for her main teacher (the one who took care of her) to return from a school trip and she will tell me exactly what happened. If my dh and I are not satisfied we will go to the board.

Thank you for everyone standing with me! Sometimes as a mom it is hard to not overreact but it's nice to feel justified!!!

***Original Post****


My oldest is a freshman in special ed, she has the mental capacity of a 9-10 year old.
A substitute teacher in her history class had a brilliant idea to show a classroom full of special ed kids the movie Passion of the Christ!!!

There were no permission slips, nothing. Her main teacher just called me with my hysterical daughter. I have to go and pick her up because she is unable to calm her down. I am so mad and I need to calm down before I go to the school or I might end up in jail.

We are Christians however; I would never have allowed her to see this movie because it is far to graphic for her to comprehend and it is completely inappropriate for her.

Her main teacher was headed to the office to talk to her superiors to find out what in the hell was going on and so that they could see the effect it had on my dd.

I just don't understand why people think they have the right to force their agenda on my kid.

I am so angry so please don't slam me for venting. Thanks!


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Posted: 3/29/2013 1:54:43 PM
I'm sorry your dd is so upset. I have to say, I'm actually surprised that they showed this movie. Usually schools are overly cautious about being 'politically correct' and not overstepping.

Good movie, but definitely not appropriate to show at school. Especially without permission slips.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 1:54:44 PM
Though I've never seen it, I've heard enough about it to know it's clearly not a movie that should be shown in school at all.

I guess I would be interested in talking with the substitute to find out what her thought process was.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 1:56:51 PM
I am certainly not going to speak to anyone until I have calmed down. I know it won't do any good to go in guns blazing!



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Posted: 3/29/2013 1:58:52 PM
What a foolish decision by the substitute teacher! I would be upset, too. I'm not sure it was an agenda being forced on the students, but surely there was academic work that could have been taught or reinforced instead of throwing on a movie that will evoke strong emotions in adults, and much more in young students. What was that teacher thinking?

I'm glad the main teacher is going to the office. I sounds like that teacher does have your dd's best interest in mind.

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Posted: 3/29/2013 2:02:16 PM
I can understand why you ate upset! I would be too.

I've never seen that movie, but I know enough about it to know that it is not something that I would be able to watch without feeling overly disturbed.

Off topic, but I am surprised there is school today. Schools here always have Good Friday off.







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Posted: 3/29/2013 2:05:27 PM
I would be mad too. Personally, even as an adult, I have a difficult time with that movie. Christianity aside (which isn't that a violation of the separation of church and state), it is crazy graphic with lots of blood and torture. I love that the movie was "real" but I cannot imagine showing it to anyone under 18 unless their parent deemed them able to handle the horrible scenes.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 2:09:18 PM
Wow. Vent away.

I'd be making sure that there was some serious punishment for the sub. That movie should never be shown in school, period.






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Posted: 3/29/2013 2:12:08 PM
Oh my...that would upset me too. I would never let my autistic DS17 watch that. He's entirely too sensitive. He watched Titanic without my knowing about it, and I caught him in a full on sobbing fest at the scene where the people were shown dead in the water. I could only watch Passion once and that was tough.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 2:16:15 PM
I looked it up. It's rated R. That would be enough right there to make me Pea Livid!


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Posted: 3/29/2013 2:20:30 PM
I'm an atheist, and it isn't the Christian theme of the movie that would bother me, it is the violent and graphic nature. I wouldn't have a problem with my kids watching an age-appropriate movie about Christianity in school. I happen to be a fan of the old school The Ten Commandments.






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Posted: 3/29/2013 2:23:47 PM
You have every right to be upset. No teacher, regular or substitute, should be showing such an intense movie without permission slips, no matter the topic.

I am a substitute teacher and have to wonder about your school's technology policies and procedures. There no way for me to show any video without the regular teacher leaving it set up and ready to play. I also cannot access the internet.

I'm sorry your daughter was exposed to this upsetting movie.

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Posted: 3/29/2013 2:55:24 PM
I would be livid too. I haven't watched the movie because I know that it would be too intense for me to see. I'd be furious if someone showed it to my child.




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Posted: 3/29/2013 3:02:20 PM
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Posted: 3/29/2013 3:07:42 PM
I am so sorry this happened with your daughter. I am a Christian, but I have never watched it because I know it would be too emotional for me. This sub showed some very poor judgement.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 3:18:04 PM
I saw it several years ago and could never watch it again. It depicts the violence and torture so graphically - my son is on the spectrum and I would be heartbroken if he was shown that film.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 3:20:56 PM
Wow, I would be livid!

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Posted: 3/29/2013 3:25:26 PM
Holy cow! I am a Christian, but would never dream of having kids watch that movie at a school. As someone else already said, the graphic violence in that movie was something else. Hell I came out of the movie feeling like I had been tortured. I can't imagine kids watching that without parental permission besides the fact that it is R rated.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 3:30:01 PM
Yep - totally justified in your "pea lividness."

I'm sorry your dd was so traumatized. I hope she's okay and doing better now.

WTH was that sub thinking? I really hope she lost her job. That's some really thoughtless and stupid behavior right there.



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Posted: 3/29/2013 3:30:36 PM
What a freaking idiot! Personally, I'd go in with guns blazing. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough to show that movie to a SE classroom.

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Posted: 3/29/2013 3:34:49 PM
OK. I'll let you move forward with your Pea Livid application on this one. What a stupid, stupid decision!


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Posted: 3/29/2013 3:35:08 PM

I think it is worth being pea livid over AND going in guns blazing!
There are normal functioning adults I've advised to not see it because it is such an intensly graphic movie.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 3:58:55 PM
I won't even watch that movie. I would really question the school and ask why in heaven's name would they show and R rated movie to any child in school! Let a lone a special needs child!

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Posted: 3/29/2013 3:59:59 PM
Definitely pea livid worthy. What an idiot for playing that for students.

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Posted: 3/29/2013 4:08:17 PM
Ok, I had to login just to comment! I would be absolutely livid if that movie was shown to any child without parental approval!

You should not feel bad at all about going in there with guns blazing! That teacher deserves to be told exactly how you feel and how that bad decision effected your child. OOOHHH! I'm just so mad for you.

Please give us the follow up once you talk with the school. I'd like to hear their thoughts and the results.

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Posted: 3/29/2013 4:10:08 PM
I'm so sorry for you. I have a lot of experience with special ed. Why would she think that was a reasonable idea. I'm an adult and it took me years to bring myself to watch it. Your poor daughter. So much for "good" Friday.

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I'm on your side. Freshman are 14-15yos. Even the ones with unbelievable mental capacity need to be fully prepared for this movie (which I would not allow my 14-15yo kid to see). I think it's rated R.

I hope she never teaches again. Yes, I think it is that bad. That kind of stupidity cannot be cured.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 4:35:58 PM
I would be Pea Livid, too!

I saw this movie. I was so disturbed after watching it that I could not sleep that night- at all- not a wink. It took me a long time to get the images out of my head. I would NEVER watch it again or let my children watch it. EVER.

I am so sorry this happened and hope that your DD can soon forget what she saw.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 4:40:13 PM
Are you sure it was the subs decision to show that movie? In my district the subs do not choose the curriculum unless they are long term subs (subbing for several months and planning curriculum for the classes.) We only show a movie when the teacher leaves one for us to show.

Regardless of whose idea it was, it was a really, really lousy one. That is not an appropriate movie for any high school aged student. I'm sorry it distressed your dd. Poor thing.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 4:40:28 PM
I wouldn't want a neurotypical freshman to watch that. I don't blame you for being livid!!!


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Posted: 3/29/2013 4:41:31 PM
Like bandjmom, I'm also a long time substitute teacher. I would not have shown that movie.

However, I would want to know how the sub got a copy of that movie? If she did have access to the Internet, normally teachers have access to an approved list of movies. Our district has to have permission slips for PG movies and PG 13 movies are not allowed.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 4:42:27 PM
I wouldn't want a neurotypical freshman to watch that. I don't blame you for being livid!!!


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Posted: 3/29/2013 4:43:18 PM
I'm an adult and I couldn't make it through that movie because it upset me too much. Your poor daughter. School should be a safe and happy place.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 4:46:09 PM
Totally inappropriate! You have every right to be Pea Livid!

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Posted: 3/29/2013 4:59:44 PM
Very justified.
I never, ever want to see this movie again and sometimes wish I hadn't seen it. I can't get the images out of my head for almost a decade now.



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Posted: 3/29/2013 5:00:16 PM
Very justified.
I never, ever want to see this movie again and sometimes wish I hadn't seen it. I can't get the images out of my head for almost a decade now.



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Posted: 3/29/2013 5:16:25 PM
Oh.hell.no!! Guns blazing is totally appropriate.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 5:20:22 PM
Livid would not even describe how I'd feel. I send my kids to Catholic school and I would be upset if they were shown that movie.

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Posted: 3/29/2013 5:20:45 PM
I agree. Go ahead and be pea livid! I feel bad for your DD, this should not have happened. I would definitely talk to the principal after you have spoken with her main teacher about this substitute teacher. Not cool.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 5:52:01 PM
that sub shows an R rated movie in school??!! Hells yes, I'd be beyond pea livid and into seeing red furious! I'd be demanding that sub never teaches again.

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Posted: 3/29/2013 5:58:40 PM
Wow! We are never allowed to show R movies and need parental permission for PG and below!

Another Christian here and that is totally inappropriate- both religiously and even within the historical context.



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Posted: 3/29/2013 6:02:58 PM
I'd be so pissed! That's wrong of the teacher he or she needs their ass handed to them.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 6:07:02 PM
"I agree. Go ahead and be pea livid! I feel bad for your DD, this should not have happened. I would definitely talk to the principal after you have spoken with her main teacher about this substitute teacher. Not cool."

Honestly, I'd go a little further with it and speak to the school board.
Is this at a private school?
If not, it's even more serious since religious movies cannot be shown, let alone R

What a shame.
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Posted: 3/29/2013 6:45:24 PM
As a Christian who makes a conscious decision to watch this movie every year on Good Friday, it's hard for me to watch - and I know that's going to happen and realistic the scenes are. My children do watch it with me / because I feel it's important - but that's a choice I made to do as a family in our home setting where we can discuss it and worship together. I too would be pea livid in your situation. I don't have any special needs children, but I would be very upset if my children were shown this movie without my permission or in my presence. I hope that you are able to comfort your daughter and help her to process what she can.

If its okay may I pray for her that she received the message of Jesus (if she doesn't already know it) and that the violence doesn't have any lasting effects on her?


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Posted: 3/29/2013 7:23:29 PM
Pea Livid is fine.

But I'm so glad for your daughter that you said you are working to calm yourself down. Your first priority is your daughter's best interest, and I'm praying for you to get to the school (have gotten there) in a state of mind where you could address her needs. You are a good mom!

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Posted: 3/29/2013 7:35:17 PM
This teacher has some terrible judgement to show a graphic R rated movie to any kids, much less special ed. yeah, I'd be livid.

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Posted: 3/29/2013 8:02:07 PM
Honestly, I'd go a little further with it and speak to the school board.
Is this at a private school?
If not, it's even more serious since religious movies cannot be shown, let alone R



I have worked in education in different capacities for many years. It is easier to go up the chain of command, and the principal would be the person I would contact after I spoke with the student's main teacher. Then I would go further up that chain depending on the outcome.

I am not saying that the school board shouldn't be notified, but all other people in a higher position should be notified first.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 8:05:42 PM
you are right to be livid - I have only seen clips of the movie, and it is way too graphic to be shown in school, and not to mention the Christian aspect of it, that probably should not be in the school.


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Posted: 3/29/2013 9:08:55 PM
I'd be pea livid too! Please let us know the answer you get from the school.



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