George Zimmerman's Heroic Car Crash Rescue Appears to be a Fraud

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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:19:13 PM
(And I'm just copying the title from the article in the event that anyone wants to quibble about it.)

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This was a suspicious story from the beginning.

We have seen news reports of protesters doing thousands of dollars of damage to be a fraud. Claims of attacks by protesters over the Zimmerman verdict turned out to be false. Now added to the list of false news reports appears to be the story of George Zimmerman heroically rescuing a family of four from a burning SUV.

The initial report was that George Zimmerman was just coincidentally driving by after a car accident occurred, that he leaped out of his vehicle to come to the rescue of the family of four trapped inside as the vehicle caught fire, pulling them to safety. That was followed by the claim that the family he rescued had planned a press event to thank George Zimmerman, but that they canceled due to threats from Trayvon Martin supporters.

It appears they may have canceled any such event because they did not want to be part of the fraud of making Zimmerman out to be a hero, when that story was not precisely true.

What did occur was that an accident occurred where a car slid on it’s side into a median. People at the scene called 911, which went to the Sanford office of the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office. BEFORE responding to the 911 call, News Ball.com reports that Seminole Sheriff’s Dept. Officer Patrick Rehder, a self-styled friend and supporter of Zimmerman, contacted Zimmerman by cell phone directing him to go to the accident so as to appear to be a hero. News Ball.com also provides a social media screen capture of a curious statement about Rehder taking pleasure when “someone gets credit for something they did not do”.

Rehder’s name appears on the accident report.

There were plenty of people driving by who witnessed the accident, and stopped to help the family out of the vehicle, BEFORE Zimmerman showed up, according to the 911 calls, but no ‘thank you’ press conference mentioning anyone else by name specifically was scheduled by the family.

Zimmerman showed up AFTER he was called by a SCSO member according to a report at News Ball.com, Zimmerman then got out of his car with a fire extinguisher, and apparently left without doing anything especially heroic. You can hear the course of events here in the 911 calls; many people who were there as the accident happened stopped to get people out, and the fire and smoke problem from the calls, appeared some time after they were out of the car. As you can hear from the calls, people were out before there was a smoke or fire problem; Zimmerman did not appear to risk his life to pull anyone out of a burning car, as was claimed. :

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THIS new challenge to Zimmerman’s integrity in addition to the misrepresentation of funds donated when bail was set, as well as the conflicting statements made to police and in court, is why protesters both distrust BOTH George Zimmerman and the local Florida LEOs, and are protesting the validity of the trial verdict. It is also part of why there is opposition to the SYG laws that make it easier for someone to get away with homicide.


And with that, I hope this man embraces his ignominy and disappears from public view for the rest of his life.



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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:23:56 PM
Ha! How stupid do you have to be to think you can get away with that kind of thing? George Zimmerman stupid, I guess. A new low.

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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:26:21 PM
Pretty stupid!

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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:28:12 PM
Just playing devils' advocate--why would someone believe either story now?

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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:29:22 PM
He needs to disappear like Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson.



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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:31:31 PM
At least OJ is in jail now.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:32:52 PM
Interesting. I could only find one other source for this story: OpEdNews.com, and it's just a link-back to op's original link.




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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:33:42 PM
Zimmerman was found INNOCENT but is still guilty in the eyes of the rabid pubic. While I wouldn't do something so desperate, I can imagine why Zimmerman felt he need to do something like this to help restore his image.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:36:07 PM
Awww...poor George. Victimized again.

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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:36:36 PM

Zimmerman was found INNOCENT but is still guilty in the eyes of the rabid pubic


When you KILL and UNARMED KID, you may be "not guilty" but you are still a MURDERER! When are some of you going to get that thru your thick skull?

*edited to change innocent to not guilty which is correct.




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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:37:04 PM
No Sabrina, he was not found innocent. The verdict was not guilty, which is not the same thing.

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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:38:18 PM
I don't really care about the story one way or another.....people have made up their mind as to what they think about the trial and the verdict, and as far as I'm concerned, it's over.

However, this News Ball place doesn't seem to be particularly credible either. They are offering a reward for the names of the Zimmerman jurors so that they can out the people who (their characterization) bullied and guilt tripped "Maddie" out of hanging the jury.

So I guess people can just believe whichever version they choose.

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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:39:32 PM
mzza111- technically murder involves premeditation...this was not proved in the court case so...he may be a killer, but technically he is not legally a murderer.



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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:39:38 PM
Zimmerman was found INNOCENT but is still guilty in the eyes of the rabid pubic. While I wouldn't do something so desperate, I can imagine why Zimmerman felt he need to do something like this to help restore his image.



No he wasn't. He was found NOT GUILTY which is not the same thing as innocent and I think other peas have pointed that out to you before. He is going to keep showing his true colors and some are going to keep falling for it.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:41:09 PM
I followed the link to YouTube and newsball and WTF?

Names & pictures of the family in the accident including their kids, their e-mail addresses published, where the live, that he is a pharmacist and a link to his registered pharmacist details. WTF are they doing this to the family for?

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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:44:58 PM
(note to scrap4maddie: please, at least use quote marks, your post was a bit confusing. kthxbie )



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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:48:33 PM
I didn't follow it back to newsball, I just checked around the site which posted this story (IVN) and it seems like a legitimate site.



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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:49:19 PM

I didn't follow it back to newsball, I just checked around the site which posted this story (IVN) and it seems like a legitimate site.
It may be...however, since it doesn't seem to be being reported ANY where else, I think it's questionable.



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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:50:27 PM

mzza111- technically murder involves premeditation...this was not proved in the court case so...he may be a killer, but technically he is not legally a murderer.


I don't know, stalking your prey is premeditated.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 1:52:36 PM

I don't know, stalking your prey is premeditated.
Again, it was not proven in court that he followed Martin with an intent to end his life.



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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:00:10 PM
No surprise to me....it was just a little too convenient of a story.

What a douchbag and a murdering one at that! I wish he would just go away FOREVER.





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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:01:19 PM
I didn't want to post yet another Zimmerman thread as I have heard enough already but I thought this was an interesting perspective.



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I don't follow all the Trayvon/Zimmerman posts so I am not sure if this was shared before. I saw it for the first time on a friend's FB page.




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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:10:09 PM
No surprise to me....it was just a little too convenient of a story.
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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:10:28 PM

I didn't follow it back to newsball, I just checked around the site which posted this story (IVN) and it seems like a legitimate site.


I have no idea if this "appears" to be a fraud or not but if you follow the links it is pretty clear why the family in the accident chose not to come forward. There is a lot of crazy going on at the source website that is pretty disturbing. I would go so far as to say that this is why they decided to not come forward.

OP, the story originates at newsball.com

They are trying to get he names of the jurors and pictures and are offering money. The website is disgusting. I call bullshit on this story.

They even have pictures of the officer responding to the accident with his wife and baby.

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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:10:31 PM
Well...I am really surprised.

ONE story on this in all of internetland and some of you are ready to buy it without question.

Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. I'm not willing to take one news report's word for it. As logical as some of you claim to be, I am surprised that you are.



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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:11:58 PM
Zimmerman was found INNOCENT but is still guilty in the eyes of the rabid pubic
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The same could be said of OJ Simpson.


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Zimmerman was found INNOCENT but is still guilty in the eyes of the rabid pubic
I'm a little skeeered of a rabid pubic running around...

Anyway. I'm not being pedantic when I point out that he was not found INNOCENT. He was found NOT GUILTY. Big difference.

Not guilty means that the evidence presented was insufficient to convict in the mind of the jury. It does not mean that the person charged was innocent of the crime. Big difference.

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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:24:29 PM
Ginger21 - great video!

The media is nothing what it proclaims to be, actual news. It is all about programming the public in how they are supposed to think according to...? And isn't that the question. Who is perpetuating this facade-type reporting?

People will believe what they are told if it's told with authority and with a few graphs thrown in. People have lost the ability to think critically, as evidenced even in this thread.



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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:25:31 PM

Not guilty means that the evidence presented was insufficient to convict in the mind of the jury. It does not mean that the person charged was innocent of the crime. Big difference.


ITA and you would think with all the armchair "wannabe" lawyers on this board that have participated in the countless threads on this subject, they would know this.





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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:30:28 PM

I followed the link to YouTube and newsball and WTF?

Names & pictures of the family in the accident including their kids, their e-mail addresses published, where the live, that he is a pharmacist and a link to his registered pharmacist details. WTF are they doing this to the family for?


That^^^

The Newsball site is a mess. Their headline is "Saved or Staged?" and goes on to refer to lots of unnamed sources with no proof.

.. and they offering a Reward for photos/info on the jurors?

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Posted: 7/26/2013 2:47:50 PM

Ginger21 - great video!


Thanks, unfortunately I don't think many people will take the time to watch it. I almost didn't as I am sick of the whole thing.

Not sure if it is all true but I was annoyed at the portrayal of Trayvon as a sweet little boy with the pictures the media used.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 3:10:55 PM
Ginger, great video. I almost didn't watch it, but I am glad I did.

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Posted: 7/26/2013 5:04:05 PM
While I think the GZ rescue story is extremely fishy, the newsball site is just about the poorest excuse for journalism I've ever encountered. The posted the family's personal email addresses and encouraged people to contact them. They posted dozens of the family's personal photographs, which from the rest of the "article" was obviously without permission. They are drawing conclusions based on what individuals did not post on heir social media accounts.

And the 911 calls in the video (full of that family's personal photographs and totally irrelevant to the story) don't have any time stamps so who the hell knows what in time or order they were taken. How about submitting a FOIA request (or whatever it would be called in FL) to get the 911 transcripts with time stamps? Or conducting actual interviews? You know, the steps a real journalist would take. And, of course, there's nothing but a secondhand account with no corroborating evidence of the alleged "tipoff" call.

That "news" site seems to be wholly creating this story.

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Posted: 7/26/2013 5:25:30 PM
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Posted: 7/26/2013 5:47:38 PM

Anyway. I'm not being pedantic when I point out that he was not found INNOCENT. He was found NOT GUILTY. Big difference.


I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I thought in America you were INNOCENT until proven GUILTY. He wasn't found guilty, so doesn't that make him innocent?

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Posted: 7/26/2013 5:55:51 PM

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I thought in America you were INNOCENT until proven GUILTY. He wasn't found guilty, so doesn't that make him innocent?


Zimmerman killed an unarmed teen. FACT.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:02:18 PM

Zimmerman killed an unarmed teen. FACT.
Zimmerman was found not guilty of murder in the first degree and also not guilty of manslaughter. FACT.

ETA: Nobody is saying Zimmerman isn't a giant asshole for being such a stupid idiot when he decided to follow Martin.



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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:02:47 PM

Zimmerman killed an unarmed teen. FACT.


Yes, but the trial was not whether GZ killed Trayvon or not. We all know that. It did not have to be proven.

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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:05:01 PM
The laws in Florida SUCK. How an armed man can pursue an unarmed teen, kill him, and not be held accountable in anyway is beyond me.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:09:45 PM
Erica, I have never even posted on a Zimmerman thread so save the snark. Damn.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:10:03 PM

I figured it was either a set up/ PR stunt or he was back to "patrolling" already.

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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:25:09 PM
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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:35:17 PM
No. Disagree that being able to walk away with no sentence is not being held accountable. Zimmerman got away with killing an unarmed teen.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:35:35 PM

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I thought in America you were INNOCENT until proven GUILTY. He wasn't found guilty, so doesn't that make him innocent?


No, Not Guilty is a legal ruling, innocent is a moral one. Mr. Zimmerman is Not Guilty of murder in the eyes of the law, morally, he has committed murder in self defense. Mr. Zimmerman is Not Guilty, he is far from innocent.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:36:50 PM
Some people will not be happy until Zimmerman is found dead somewhere...and to them, THAT will be "justice".

It doesn't matter to them that the courts must comply with the rule of law, or that people's indignant feelings are not part of how a jury rules. No, unless their own misguided illusions of fairness are appeased, in their minds justice simply has not occurred.



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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:45:42 PM

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I thought in America you were INNOCENT until proven GUILTY. He wasn't found guilty, so doesn't that make him innocent?

He was not PROVEN innocent. The prosecution tried to prove his GUILT but failed. Therefore, he was not proven GUILTY. That's not the same thing as being PROVEN innocent.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:47:11 PM

Some people will not be happy until Zimmerman is found dead somewhere...and to them, THAT will be "justice".

It doesn't matter to them that the courts must comply with the rule of law, or that people's indignant feelings are not part of how a jury rules. No, unless their own misguided illusions of fairness are appeased, in their minds justice simply has not occurred.

That's an appalling thing to say. Thinking that true justice wasn't served does not equate to wishing him dead.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:52:47 PM

Some people will not be happy until Zimmerman is found dead somewhere...and to them, THAT will be "justice".

It doesn't matter to them that the courts must comply with the rule of law, or that people's indignant feelings are not part of how a jury rules. No, unless their own misguided illusions of fairness are appeased, in their minds justice simply has not occurred.


If thinking that an armed man killing an unarmed teen on his way home from the store is wrong, *IS WRONG*, then I don't want to be right.


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Posted: 7/26/2013 6:59:19 PM

And with that, I hope this man embraces his ignominy and disappears from public view for the rest of his life.


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