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Posted 8/13/2013 by Nicole in TX in General Scrappin'
 

Nicole in TX
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Posted: 8/13/2013 8:22:07 AM
I am going through my scrapbook room trying to pull out unwanted items for a sale.

I have found two products are not holding up:

- almost anything with epoxy on it; the epoxy is starting to yellow and look terrible

- those jelly type embellishments that were popular a while ago. The clear ones have turned yellow as well

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Posted: 8/13/2013 8:26:09 AM
That's so annoying... I'll have to go check my old layouts!

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Posted: 8/13/2013 8:31:50 AM
I noticed that with epoxy years ago - some of the pieces would yellow while still in the packaging.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 8:33:39 AM
Chipboard Thickers. The quality of the adhesive is awful!

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Posted: 8/13/2013 9:18:00 AM
I to had those clear jelly type stickers that you would put on a word I guess to high light it back 8 years ago turn yellow and I have never used them. Since they have somewhat a tint to it I am thinking of using them on cards.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 9:22:00 AM
Anything with epoxy or foam. I usually remember to remove the foam from embellishments. Instead, I use a layer or two of heavy chipboard to "pop" the embellishment.

As I said in another thread -- Scotch and Vario adhesives. I've had to redo many of my older pages because they just fell apart.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 9:33:12 AM
Most of my old run ons don't work.
They crack or don't stick

Old epoxy. Warped in the original packaging and yellowing. Bad
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Posted: 8/13/2013 9:38:38 AM
Some rub-ons...I had some peel right off a layout when they stuck to the page protector that was covering them. I still am not sure how to replace them--they were part of a title.

I had some shiny flexible plastic jelly-type embellishments leave huge grease stains all over a page years later, and I had to re-do it.

Any kind of self-adhesive chipboard is a ticking time bomb for falling off the page!

And I have been having a bad vibe about washi tape lately. I love the stuff, but I just have a bad feeling that in five years it's going to peel right off the page. I hope not!

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Posted: 8/13/2013 9:42:14 AM
Foam pop dots.

They're leaving an oily stain on the layer on top of them




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Posted: 8/13/2013 9:45:18 AM
And what about wood vener ? I am afraid that it yellowishes the paper... And I've just discovered that my glue isn't acid free (I use the classic Aleene's, I didn't know there was a classic and an acid free one...).

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Posted: 8/13/2013 9:52:37 AM
I looked through all of my albums last month, and while my oldest layouts are only just approaching 9 years old, I was pleased to see very little damage has occurred over time. These layouts were stored in a non-controlled environment (outdoor storage pod) for a year and exposed to freeze/thaw cycles and extreme heat and humidity, and then spent another year in an attic (not freezing, but extremely hot).

A handful of chipboard Thickers have fallen off.
A few plasticy/glass items fell off.

None of my rub-ons have peeled or cracked; I never actually used any of the epoxy I bought so haven't noticed any yellowing yet.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 10:29:09 AM
"Foam pop dots.

They're leaving an oily stain on the layer on top of them

"


Oh no!
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Posted: 8/13/2013 10:39:58 AM

Foam pop dots.

They're leaving an oily stain on the layer on top of them


OK, now you are scaring me.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 10:49:58 AM

Foam pop dots.

They're leaving an oily stain on the layer on top of them


Say it ain't so! I've used a ton of these...

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Posted: 8/13/2013 10:54:17 AM
My good ole' from way back when I used GLUE STICKS seem to be falling apart. Last weekend I went through my older layouts and re-glued many items that were initially adhered with the TRUSTY GLUE STICK.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 11:00:06 AM
I didn't start using pop dots until recently... they were too $$ for my cheap home-made ways back when I started scrapping!

However, my glue stick layouts are still fully intact and I haven't seen any discolouration or yellowing from using my favourite acidic Aileen's Tacky Glue. YET. Not sure how long those things take to happen. My oldest pages aren't quite 9 years old yet. Maybe the aging magic happens at the decade mark.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 11:06:20 AM
Foam Pop dots too!?!

Okay, now I am definitely going to have to check over my old layouts!
I can't get over how many of the products mentioned on this thread are listed because of adhesive problems...

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Posted: 8/13/2013 11:18:53 AM

Foam pop dots.

They're leaving an oily stain on the layer on top of them


Say it ain't so! I've used a ton of these...



I know and they were expensive

I'm noticing it on my projects from 2003-2006 done with pop dots I purchased at Recollections, back when Recollections was a store and not just a brand at M's.




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Posted: 8/13/2013 11:23:57 AM
I have to say that when I read the thread name, I was sure there were going to be tons of responses about the Heidi Swapp chipboard letters But I guess those didn't stick for any length of time so anyone that had them has already addressed the problem.
The foam dot thing is scary!

I have a few of the yellowing epoxy problems on older layouts. I had already gone back a couple of years ago and re-done my chipboard embellishments with glue dots instead of the self-adhesive glue that was on them. I don't purchase the chipboard Thickers if I can help it. Lately I use hot glue on anything chipboard. I just hope the glue doesn't stain later. I have found that some of the vinyl thickers have migrated around a page leaving behind a little glue mess.
My biggest complaint about chipboard pieces is that the printed chipboard ones all seem to be curving. I still have lots of the June Bug and Urban Prairie chipboard packs from BG but haven't used them because they won't lay flat. I need to just weigh them down with heavy books I guess and see if that works.

My only problem with rub-ons has been that most of the older ones won't come off of the backing so I can't use them. Any that were already on layouts though haven't come off.
What I wonder about washi is if it will get dry and brittle over time. Like when you find sn old piece of masking tape on something. I still use it though but in smallish doses.

LisaDorothy
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Posted: 8/13/2013 11:49:44 AM
Anything epoxy. As I run across it in my stash I am now throwing it all away. And vinyl Thickers, they peel up on the edges exposing a greasy adhesive residue stain.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 12:29:16 PM
Interesting about the pop
dots. I have always used the brand name, none of my layouts (from 2004 on) have had any damage from them, even after being in storage for a couple of years (not in albums)

Scary thought!

I have noticed some inks I've edged the photos with have had a yellow stain on the pic.

A couple of the photos I had printed have turned a bit yellow, I haven't been able to figure out yet if its the photo paper I used, or something else.

That's all I've noticed so far (just got all my stuff out if storage now we've moved to our house, so I'll see I guess) but I never used the epoxy or rubbery embellies, very happy about that now.

I hope washi doesn't go that way!!! Haven't used it yet but I do have some.
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Posted: 8/13/2013 12:33:49 PM
Everything epoxy, even ones that are only a year old! . I will never buy anything made of epoxy ever again.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 12:39:04 PM
yep, anything epoxy.
Heidi Swapp chipboard alphas and rubons.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 4:14:37 PM
Thickers! Ugh I love them so much and use them most of my layouts but I've noticed them falling off and leaving a stain.
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Posted: 8/13/2013 6:49:22 PM
Uggh! I don't think I have used Recollections pop dots. I think all of mine are All Night Media or other brands.

It is funny how everyone has such a love/hate relationship with Thickers!

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Posted: 8/13/2013 6:50:40 PM
Am I the only one who has noticed some of my patterned papers fading? Some of my older DCWV, K and Co., and a couple of other lines are starting to look dingy and faded. The colors were so vibrant when I did the layouts and now they are just blah.

Nothing is stored where it's exposed to sunlight, so it's definitely not sun fading.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 7:22:17 PM
I stopped using epoxy a few years back when they started to curl on my LO's. Those rubber embellies also would fall off and leave a horrible stain. I guess it just goes w/o saying that thickers fall off of every page I use them on

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Posted: 8/13/2013 7:22:32 PM
Add me to the list, I'll have to check my pop-dotted layouts!





I hvaen't noticed any chipboard collapses yet, guess I'll worry about that too

Okay, I admit it. I'm surrounded by sulky tweens, emoticons seem the safest way for me to act out...

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Posted: 8/13/2013 7:27:04 PM
Soooo many of my Thickers have lost their stick!!

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Posted: 8/13/2013 8:12:40 PM
I have cardstock, including Bazzill that has faded.

I never used the epoxy stickers because I had seen what happened to kids' epoxy stickers out way before they were a SBR product. I won't use washi tape on anything important either. I have a feeling it is going to yellow and curl at the edges.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 8:55:03 PM
Distress Stain - 1 year old & Pumice Stone has gone from greyish beige to green!
Thats in the bottle, I scared to check out the pages!

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Posted: 8/13/2013 8:59:54 PM
For those of you who are noticing Thickers falling off of your pages, is it just with the chipboard ones, or the foam ones as well?

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Posted: 8/13/2013 9:26:20 PM

For those of you who are noticing Thickers falling off of your pages, is it just with the chipboard ones, or the foam ones as well?


Just the chipboard ones so far.....

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Posted: 8/14/2013 12:17:49 AM
Scotch pop up foam. I had packets of these tabs and I have noticed they have split and the foam is disintegrating
Agree with the epoxy stickers, yellowing and warping on almost all of them.

Could just be the way I have stored some of my paper but I have found some issues with some of the old self adhesive fabric paper. A few of them have spots and they are smell musty which is funny as most of the others are fine.

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Posted: 8/14/2013 12:40:53 AM
This info is very helpful. I had lots of epoxy product that yellowed and had to be thrown away. I'll make sure to use extra adhesive with my chipboard thickers. Thank you Peas!

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Posted: 8/14/2013 5:16:35 AM
I too have noticed many issues with epoxy stickers as for thickers no issues yet but now I'm kinda scared lol
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Posted: 8/14/2013 8:50:25 AM
I juts checked my albums from 2006...no issues, everything is fine. The epoxy stickers from the Love, Elsie collections didnt turn yellow...

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Posted: 8/14/2013 12:13:26 PM
Expoxy stickers-yellowing and curling.


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Posted: 8/14/2013 2:10:53 PM
For the life of me I cannot get a Hermafix/Vario to re-load properly. I like the tabs, but it's a stupid system if you can't re-load the thing. I've talked to other people who have the same problem.

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Posted: 8/14/2013 5:01:38 PM
I'm really afraid for washi tape I use on layouts... and my thickers. I'm ok if they fall off but if they leave a stain I'm not going to be happy.

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Posted: 8/14/2013 5:16:04 PM
Before reading your responses, I immediately thought anything epoxy.

Vellum tape only works okay if the vellum is on top of a light colored paper.

I've been scrapping for years and have not had an issue using glue sticks. I know I try to use the glue sticks that say photo safe and not use the ones that are "kid proof" or meant for school use. Can't remember the name of them.

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Posted: 8/14/2013 5:36:51 PM
I used to use a tape runner. They sold them at Walmart and the refills too. My photos and embellishments have come off the pages that were adhered with the tape runner. I have had to go back and redo my pages with my ATG. The tape runner adhesive did not hold up well at all. This is after only a few years too.

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Posted: 8/14/2013 7:35:53 PM
My hermafix finally bit the dust too...and i'm never going to like my atg as much.

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Posted: 8/14/2013 7:41:05 PM
I guess I should check my old albums this weekend. I've used a lot of this stuff! Very annoying!
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Posted: 8/14/2013 8:22:52 PM

*sigh* One of the things that I've liked about scrapbooking is that when a layout is completed it's DONE. (Unlike dishes and laundry.) I've been scrapping for about 15 years or more. Now I need to go back and check through my albums to see how everything's aging.

At least going forward we know what products to avoid.


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Posted: 8/14/2013 9:48:42 PM
I noticed someone posted that their Love, Elsie epoxy was holding up. Mine from her last collection with the cameras has all turned yellow and curled on the edges. I didn't get any from the other collections to compare.
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Posted: 8/14/2013 10:04:03 PM
Yes, epoxy stuff is all yellow and falling off pages! grrr...

I really hope enamel dots are not going to have the same fate!

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Posted: 8/20/2013 12:10:45 PM
Scrap maven -on reloading the Hermafix dispenser-might I suggest giving it to a different person along with the illustration that is usually inside the box of refills.

My sister is the exact same way. She can look at an illustration and cannot for the life of her figure out how it translates to real life. Yet she is brilliant in other areas of her life.

Hope that helps and I haven't insulted your intelligence which I absolutely didn't mean to do.

Debbie in MD.
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