Be you "gut" your paper when you cover most of the base sheet?

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PeaNut 28,992
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Posted: 10/22/2013 12:50:15 PM
If I'm using the paper for a narrow border around the edge I nearly always cut the middle out. I tend to buy only one sheet of a paper and often want to use the same pattern elsewhere on the layout. I also do a lot of sewing on my layouts and if I have too many layers I snap my needle!

Also an album with 50 layouts can be very heavy. I don't want to add to the weight with all the layers of cardstock! (BTW I do tend to prefer the heavier weight individual 12x12 patterned papers.)



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Posted: 10/22/2013 1:23:49 PM
Most of the time I do gut it and use it on the same layout. I subscribe to Swirlydoos, which sends one sheet of each design, mostly two sided. I get my mileage out of the kit by gutting and using either on the same layout or another one I'm doing using the kit. PLUS, my pages are uber thick and it helps cut down on bulk..well, a little bit anyway!

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Posted: 10/22/2013 1:25:47 PM
When paper used to be thinner, I did, but now, I use the paper as a base sheet and want the thickness to support the page. Otherwise I end up backing it with cardstock which defeats the whole "savings" thing.

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Posted: 10/22/2013 1:37:45 PM
never ever, i like to layer it up to make my layout super thick.

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Posted: 10/22/2013 1:55:33 PM
Ok, am I the only one willing to admit I am old enough to remember the heyday of scrapbooking when all paper was thin and you always gutted? Every class you took, you gutted each layer to use later. LOL!

Nowadays, I do not, even if I really really really like the paper. Too many other papers to use! So every layer is a fully intact layer.


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Posted: 10/22/2013 2:14:21 PM
Not usually as I am trying to work my way through a ton of SC kits where I bought extra paper!!! However, just watched Shimelle do this and then use the scrap as part of her layering. Love that idea and will definitely be trying it soon.

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Posted: 10/22/2013 3:01:30 PM
All the time, especially if I just want a small .25" frame around the layout. Unlike some, I don't like heavy layouts, and I've never had a problem with the 'sturdiness' of a gutted layout.

I don't have a big paper stash, I don't have a huge scrap budget, and I frequently use my scraps. In fact the last half dozen layouts I've made have been done with only scraps. The only time I wouldn't do this if it is an older paper that I'm not bothered about keeping. There does become a point when I just want to use them up.

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Posted: 10/22/2013 3:45:54 PM
I do when the paper is hard to come by and i LOVE it. Here's case in point: Exclusive JBS by Lisa Dickinson - loved this paper and couldn't bear not saving every bit. I like sturdy pages too, so I always mount the entire layout on another full sheet of cardstock.


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Posted: 10/22/2013 4:32:06 PM
nope! never even thought about doing that.

I have more paper than I'll ever use as it is, so I would never spend the time gutting it like that. If there's a paper I really like that much, then I won't use it as the base sheet. I'll find some other way to use it on the page so that it will 'stretch' farther in my design.

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Posted: 10/22/2013 4:36:47 PM
Sometimes...if I remember and I really like the paper. I usually do it with cardstock because I'll use that same cardstock to mat a photo or die cut something for the page.


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Posted: 10/22/2013 5:44:28 PM
Only if I only have 1 sheet and am planning to use the "gutted" part on that LO.

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Posted: 10/22/2013 5:46:05 PM
Only when I need a little of that paper for an embellishment on that page or a 2 page spread. I will often cut a square or a hole out of the middle.

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Posted: 10/22/2013 6:06:14 PM
Sometimes, but not unless I really love the patterned paper. Lol.

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Posted: 10/22/2013 6:36:09 PM
Yep..I do this all the time. I am usually using it to MST another picture or for a 2 page spread to make it more cohesive. I wish I could get out of the habit but I just feel like I am wasting paper otherwise!



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Posted: 10/22/2013 6:37:11 PM
I've started to recently but not every paper..


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Posted: 10/22/2013 6:45:49 PM
I always do.....I use the middle piece to cut stuff on my Cameo or for strips, punched pieces, photo matting etc...

I guess the only way I wouldn't bother I guess, would be if I didn't like the paper too much.....


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Posted: 10/22/2013 7:26:03 PM
Yes, I do cut out the center and then use it to mat things on the page

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Posted: 10/22/2013 7:29:59 PM
I always do this.
I have so much paper that I really don't need to worry about it, but I hate to waste.


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Posted: 10/22/2013 7:32:05 PM
Yep. I've gutted papers often.


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Posted: 10/22/2013 7:33:26 PM
I just started last month don't know why I had never though of it before
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Posted: 10/22/2013 8:44:08 PM
No, I like having a firm foundation to my pages. I know that once they're in the album, it doesn't matter, but still...I know.

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Posted: 10/22/2013 8:45:37 PM
Almost always unless I'm trying to use a collection up. If I need to make the page sturdier, I glue everything to a piece of lightweight designer paper. I still have a lot from a paper pad I should never have bought from HL.

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Posted: 10/22/2013 8:54:10 PM
Nope. I think I'm just too lazy.

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Posted: 10/22/2013 9:01:00 PM
I usually do - I usually have a stack of plain, nothing special, white cardstock that comes in albums or page protectors that I use behind pages that feel a little flimsy.

I started scrapping "back in the day" when 12X12 cardstock and patterned papers were hard to come by - it's a hard habit to break



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Posted: 10/22/2013 9:06:44 PM
Awesome discussion.

I do this sometimes, I guess it depends on the style I'm going for. I often buy only one of each sheet I love, so in order to get my mileage out of that sheet, I gut it. However, my rule is, if I only bought that sheet for that specific project and that project is now done, no need to keep the scraps. It's how I keep my scrap bin under control.


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Posted: 10/22/2013 9:31:52 PM
Yes I've done it because I've loved a particular paper. I'm sure I never need it afterward. I've also done it thinking it might make my book lighter. Some of those suckers are heavy!

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Posted: 10/22/2013 9:34:00 PM

I would if I really, really liked the paper and didn't have any more of it. But then i would have to use an "ugly" paper to back the layout to support it.

I was thinking the same thing when I started this thread to be honest. We all have ugly paper we can use for this don't we? I keep thinking of all my lovely new/newish Crate Paper (The Pier, Maggie Holmes) and thinking how I don't think I will be able to bear wasting the middles of them...too pretty!

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Posted: 10/22/2013 10:01:30 PM

I gut my 12x12, my 8.5 by 11, and my photo mats. I especially like to do it with 2-sided paper and then use the flip side on the same layout.

I like my pages to feel sturdy like they won't fall apart, but I don't like them to be heavy.


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Posted: 10/22/2013 10:57:06 PM
Never! Not one time!


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Posted: 10/22/2013 11:02:07 PM
I will if I know I will use the paper on the same layout. I won't gut it just to put back in my stash. My stash is big enough, thank you!


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Posted: 10/22/2013 11:57:07 PM
I don't gut it entirely but I do take some and use punches to add as embellishments on the top layer. That way I know it matched if I used it in the background
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Posted: 10/23/2013 12:02:45 AM
Now days paper is so thick unlike PP from 8 years ago so sturdiness is never an issue!

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Posted: 10/23/2013 12:32:19 AM
Nope...I just don't feel like expending the time and effort.

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Posted: 10/23/2013 12:37:19 AM
I've done it once, when there was an exclusive paper that I really loved that came in a kit and I wouldn't be able to get again.


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Posted: 10/23/2013 12:58:54 AM
If I have loved the paper and it was scarce then yes!
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Posted: 10/23/2013 1:12:53 AM
I will now that someone above stated I could use the coordinating backside for embellishment. Why do I never think of some of these simple ideas myself. I have to admit if I cut a whole lot of it out I would use a yucky paper to back it as I also don't like flimsy.

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Posted: 10/23/2013 1:37:30 AM
If I know where I'm going with the design, then yes, I'll cut out the center. However, sometimes I don't really know where the design will take me, so the center remains intact.


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Posted: 10/23/2013 3:13:07 AM
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Posted: 10/23/2013 4:01:49 AM
I do sometimes. I usually use the colors I love first (like blues and greens) and then I run out of them, and it's not good)
Or I do it when I want to make matching pages and I have only 1 sheet of paper.


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Posted: 10/23/2013 8:49:59 AM
Only if I am need it for that particular layout; but I don't cut it out to save it for later.


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Posted: 10/23/2013 9:48:50 AM
Almost always. I hate the idea of being wasteful.

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Posted: 10/23/2013 9:50:20 AM
When I first starting scrapping I did this.... I have done it very rarely since then- only when I really love it and don't have more.

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Posted: 10/23/2013 1:06:09 PM
I do occasionally; usually if I only want a 1/4 inch border around the outer edge. But it can be a case-by-case decision based on how much I like the paper.

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Posted: 10/23/2013 1:14:49 PM
Typically no. I have a few times when I had a limited amount of the paper (I get scrap hand me downs) and wanted to use it multiple places on a page.


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Posted: 10/23/2013 1:22:38 PM
Only for special paper as I am not keen on how flimsy it makes it
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