Why do you think sbing seems to be dying bit by bit?

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Posted: 12/23/2013 11:14:31 PM
I've been sbing since back I the heyday of the hobby. I understand why things slowed down from that time. However, I always thought the hobby would continue in some form. Even hobbies like cross stitching have magazines devoted to That hobby as well as supplies at every big box store. I don't see cross stitching as any more current th an sbing.(that's just an example) I know there are people who say they have always sbed and will continue even if all the stores close but I think those people are rare. It seems that most of us enjoy buying supplies as much as anything else. So if that's true,why are all the stores closing? Why are the big box stores carrying fewer and fewer supplies? If stores like Archivers close will any of the sb companies we love survive?
Why is this hobby we love so much dying this slow death and is there anything we can do?

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Posted: 12/23/2013 11:15:50 PM
Should say bit by bit. Damn ipad keyboard.

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Posted: 12/23/2013 11:52:45 PM

I don't know the full answer to your question. I think that part of it is that so many people are turning to digital scapbooking. Personally, I like to cut and paste and create with papers and embellishments.

It makes me very sad that scrapbooking is a dying art. There used to be several scrapbook stores local to me and now they have closed one by one. There are still about 3 or 4 in the area, but my favorite one is a 45 minute drive one way.



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Posted: 12/24/2013 12:30:30 AM
It seems that most of us enjoy buying supplies as much as anything else. So if that's true,why are all the stores closing?
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Because even though some like buying supplies they aren't buying them in the same quantities as they used to. I know people who used to drop $100 or more a month. Now they have a room with inventory that rivals many stores. They've purged out loads of "what was I thinking" and contemplating the amount spent that is now going in the trash/donate so now they rarely spend. Even after the purge they have more product than they will use in a library of albums.
The businesses, both lss and big box aisles, were driven by those excessive shoppers not necessarily actual scrappers.


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Posted: 12/24/2013 12:40:57 AM
Also just because big box stores are closing doesn't mean people aren't buying. I think a lot of the buying is shifting to online. Especially for niche markets like crafts. Also magazines in general are definitely dying, not just scrapbooking magazines.
I don't think scrapbooking is dying I do think that it is an industry that ebbs and flows. Now is not a strong time for the industry but I don't think it is dying. It will be a long time (if ever) that you see it as big as it once was.
Technology has had a big impact. Forget about digital scrapping, who do you know that even prints their photos any more? Back in the day people printed photos and then felt like they needed to "do something" with them.

Check out this PRT episode

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Posted: 12/24/2013 12:43:11 AM
I rarely scrapbook because I feel such pressure to make these fabulous pages with loads of dollars in product. I can't keep up with the amazing creations I see everywhere.

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Posted: 12/24/2013 1:35:42 AM
Maybe bc of price?
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Posted: 12/24/2013 1:45:36 AM
Ithink ca angel hit the nail on the head. Hardly no one prints photos anymore, instagram and facebook seem to take over. People take pictures with their phones, upload them, and that's that. Most people I know don't even upload their pictures to a hard drive. It seems preserving memories just isn't important to the majority of people, because the instant gratification of "likes" are more important.

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Posted: 12/24/2013 2:18:45 AM

Ithink ca angel hit the nail on the head. Hardly no one prints photos anymore, instagram and facebook seem to take over. People take pictures with their phones, upload them, and that's that. Most people I know don't even upload their pictures to a hard drive. It seems preserving memories just isn't important to the majority of people, because the instant gratification of "likes" are more important.


This is true. Although, I'd like to think positively that those young adults who have never had a photo printed will see the value when they have their own families. If that happens, and I hope it will, we could see a huge resurgence.

My printed photos are so precious to me and I can't imagine losing them. My 18-year-old daughter has lost a crazy number of images in the past few years with every hard drive crash and phone lost or damaged. I'd like to think that there are people like her who will regret the loss, at some point, and make an effort to document their memories permanently. You would think that having a mother who has scrapbooked for 20 years would have made an impression but maybe it will take losing the first photos of her first child to get the point across.

Now, if we can just hold on another five years or so...


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Posted: 12/24/2013 5:10:53 AM
I think the scrapbooking industry made a concentrated effort to force its shoppers into buying frenzies, where other hobbies release interesting trends, but with no forced fanfare. less push. Scrapbooking took on a tone at the Expos and stores of " You've got to get it now to be hip and cool. Don't forget the "you want to in the exclusive crowd" tactic. I can't tell you how many times I've been to Expos and stores where the item was in limited supply or they told me I had to get in now (HSN exclusives), it really got old after a while and I lost interest in being hip and cool fast. Even pushing "be the envy of other scrappers got out of hand, if you had the item!" See the imfamous thread about bad scrapbooking experiences, its full of bad behavior. The whipped frenzy lost them many loyal fans and people just started scrapping with less and making many items themselves with the tools they have acquired because of the hobby.

I think the hobby will be around, but it will be like other hobbies in that it will release a few things to enhance the hobby, but not necessarily try to change the hobby that was done already with all the personal electronic die cutting machines. There's never been a need for a bunch of stores out there, that's why the stores closed, so quickly after opening. The hobby never could sustain huge amounts of buying that store owners and the industry wanted that's why it failed. It's not that people aren't buying they just aren't throwing crazy amounts of money at a consumable hobby. I own a ton of supplied, but I've always been frugal with my supplies and money. I own a lot because I use even the tiniest of pieces and reuse many items even packaging. After a country going through a recession and coming out of it slowly this makes sense to me.


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Posted: 12/24/2013 5:32:28 AM
I think scrapbooking is alive and well! The recession took out the small stores and sites like scrapbook.com picked up the slack. There are over 1.5 million layouts on that website. and as of 2/1/14, i will have my own scrap room! I am so excited.This hobby rejuvenates, heals, and inspires me! I will never give it up.
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Posted: 12/24/2013 5:38:36 AM
I think the hobby will continue but the escalation of supplies was mainly due to overshopping, not overcreating. I remember many many years ago a now defunct magazine had shown home scrapspaces and titled it something like "Make your friends jealous". It seemed to mark a change in attitude when scrapbooking got competitive. Before that, scrapping had been a social event, similar to a quilting bee. When scrapbookers started with all the overstocked home studios and ateliers (I kid you not a scrapper actually called her scrapspace that) it seemed to change the social aspect and became more of an individual activity, no longer a community event.

Let's face it, Creative Memories got a lot of scrappers started with their home parties. When that wasn't a major marketing technique anymore, newbies dropped off and potential scrappers were never developed. Something broke in the product life cycle when new scrappers were just too intimidated by the clusters of product to even try to make a single page.

Scrapping will still exist, as does macrame and cross-stitch, but I don't know what it will look like. Times change, sad but true.


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Posted: 12/24/2013 5:58:41 AM
Because "hobbies" cycle in and out or just plain over. Sort of like a short attention span thing. Creative scrapbooking was a phenom sort of like frozen yogurt shops. You compare it to cross stitch - when did you ever see a store based on cross stitch or folk painting? When you do see a store based on a hobby, it is usually very small and one of a kind and the only in its area.

People like to blame the economy, but it is really all about normal fluctuating human interests or short attention spans. I don't know anyone who gave up a hobby (Or anything else for that matter) based on the economy. But I do know folk painters that became stampers that became scrapbookers that became jewelry makers. I know needlepointers that became cross stitchers that became knitters (or some version thereof). And I most certainly know people who picked up a hobby here or there that has uncompleted projects of all sorts lying around.

Bottom line, I don't think the question is why is creative scrapbooking dying, but why did it explode in the first place?


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Posted: 12/24/2013 6:00:54 AM
I agree with what has been written so far. If I ask myself why my personal interest in sbing seems to be dying bit by bit the answers are the same. 1) I don't shop like I used to 2) I don't want to give up a room in my house to showcasing my stuff 3) regularly scheduled crops don't happen like they used to - I loved meeting up with friends and scrapping 4) I already own enough paper to last a lifetime - and yes I've purged the stash 5) I haven't printed photos in a year.



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Posted: 12/24/2013 9:20:11 AM
I think it has to do with all of the social media and instant gratification that another pea mentioned. I have a friend who didn't send Christmas cards last year because she posts on FB and didn't want to duplicate. Why create a page when the pictures are already out to 400 people??

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Posted: 12/24/2013 9:20:25 AM
I don't think it IS dying- why do you think it IS?

Just because there are stores closing and magazines no longer publishing paper copies doesn't mean the hobby of scrapbooking is dying or ending. It just means that people shop and get inspiration in different ways than they used to.




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Posted: 12/24/2013 9:24:33 AM
So many good comments made here. I don't think it's dying just right-sizing in a way.

Indieeditingstamper, your comment connected with me. My mother loved to cross stitch and embroider. She'd make elaborate wall hangings, but also tiny pieces with nothing more than a flower or phrase on them. Those would become tiny frames, or ornaments, but there wasn't any pressure for each piece to be a masterpiece. She enjoyed it, kept her hands busy, and loved to give them as tokens she was thinking of someone.

I think the competition and celebrity aspects of this business helped it's demise. And I don't want to start something g but I find it interesting that a hobby so embraced by a certain religion seems to glorify self.

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Posted: 12/24/2013 9:28:24 AM
I think that even though many of us still love to buy supplies, it's still not enough of a population to support a specialty store in every town. I would think that for most hobbies, craft or otherwise, supplies/gear are sold either in big box stores, online, or the occasional specialty shop. Online stores like 2 peas will hopefully continue to be successful because they can reach a larger audience than just those who live in a 50 mile radius of a store.

I think that what we can do about it is to share our excitement to hopefully get others interested. I've always wanted to have a little card making party at my house for nonscrappers. I have tons of supplies to share so no one would have to make an investment just to try out paper crafting. One day, I'll get it together and organize one. Then I can show some scrapbook pages to see if there is interest.

But judging from the popularity of scrap related videos, I think there is still a lot of interest in the hobby.


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Posted: 12/24/2013 9:32:58 AM

I think the scrapbooking made a concentrated effort to force its shoppers into buying frenzies, where other hobbies release interesting trends, but with no forced fanfare. Scrapbooking took on a tone at the Expos and stores of " You've got to get it now to be hip, cool and don't forget you want to in the exclusive crowd" tactic. I can't tell you how many times I've been to Expos and stores where the item was in limited supply or they told me I had to get in now HSN
(exclusives), it really got old after a while and I lost interest in being hip and cool fast. Even the envy of other scrappers got out of hand, if you had the item! See the imfamous thread about bad scrapbooking experiences, its full of bad behavior. The whipped frenzy lost many loyal fans and people just started scrapping with less and making many items themselves with then tools they had acquired.


I agree. I hate feeling pushed to buy. I also hate the limited release of so many products. Combine that with limited retailers that carry the products and many who carry only parts of lines. For me it doesn't add up to "exclusive" it ads up to a big ole pain in the butt which isn't worth it for a hobby that is supposed to be fun.

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Posted: 12/24/2013 9:36:12 AM
ajerseygirl - plan that party. I have done that and have gotten a few people into crafting. I think there are so many out there that have simple never tried to paper craft at all.


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Posted: 12/24/2013 11:51:35 AM
I have so much product at home, filled to the brim with stuff, so it will never be dead for me. I have enough to last a lonnnnnnggggg time. So it's only dead if I decide not to do it anymore. And that's coming from a 365 day FROZEN PEA, who still have enough to create for the next 20 years.


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Posted: 12/24/2013 12:50:39 PM
I don't think it's dying. I know I am not buying as much because the price of scrappy stuff has gone way up. I am more selective on what I buy now. 10 years ago I was paying 33 cents for patterned paper if I paid 50 cents I would complain it was outrageously expensive. Now paper is 99 cents it tripled in price in 10 years
So I am now much more selective in what I buy, but I scrap just as much.


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Posted: 12/24/2013 1:56:23 PM
I think those who love it will always scrapbook, but I agree w/voltagain. When I first started scrapping (15 yrs. ago) I bought everything in sight, whether I liked it or not. Partly because that was all there was and partly because I was afraid the hobby would indeed fade out and I wouldn't have any supplies. Fast forward to today and I have more supplies than I will need for the next few years. This has significantly slowed down my spending.

In short, for me (and my scrappy buddies) it's not dying. We're just taking a shopping break.




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Posted: 12/24/2013 11:52:29 PM
In the early (popular) days of scrapping, typical pages were the kind that anyone could do. In recent years, the trend went to artsy pages, with lots and lots of embellishments.

Potential new scrappers are overwhelmed and scared off, either because of the cost per page, the time required, or because what they typically see just isn't their style.

The magazines and the manufacturers pushed for more creative pages with lots of product. The end result is that they helped to build their own coffin by limiting the appeal of scrapping to those willing to follow the artsy trend. Instead of a wide scrapping audience, the appeal shrunk way down, and the economy problems shrunk its popularity even more,



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Posted: 12/25/2013 12:40:59 AM
I hate to say that sbing is dying....there aren't a lot of us left that are still avid scrappers-but we're out there ! I so agree with whoever ( I'm on my phone because my in laws are the only people in America who don't have wireless in their house and it's hard to cut and paste on this thing!) mentioned Creative Memories. I was a consultant for them back in the day for four years and I saw so many women get into scrapping - I only know of a few that are still at it. The "quilting bee" type crips kept people scrapping and boy, do I miss those !
I listened to that PCRT episode too and I just think it's evolving . I don't know if the very detail 12x12 page will ever be as popular as it was ten years ago but I can see pocket, PL style memory keeping being a "gateway" for people to begin this hobby.its simple ( even though many of us love to kick up those cards -me included). I LOVE having all of these books now that my kids are teenagers . They drag them out and pour over them and they love my 3 PL albums. I think I will always try to do something like that.I don't think Instagram and FaceBook aren't near as special and I hate people missing out on all those memories.
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Posted: 12/25/2013 9:43:10 AM
Great point Scapn Nana... The one photo with a package of prima type layouts that have been showcased the last few years are not realistic for most who would consider scrapping. And they really were a bit of a turn off for many.



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Posted: 12/25/2013 10:39:26 AM
People have had scrapbooks for years...long before the big boom which started in the late 90's which is when I purchased my first issue of Creating Keepsakes. Even if we could no longer purchase scrapbooking supplies, people would still scrapbook, just in a less "artsy" form. I, personally, prefer to see my photos on a page and less "stuff".


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Posted: 12/25/2013 11:51:48 AM

I rarely scrapbook because I feel such pressure to make these fabulous pages with loads of dollars in product. I can't keep up with the amazing creations I see everywhere.

So sad to read this. It shouldn't be about keeping up with someone else. You should scrapbook because you enjoy it for you . Same with any other hobby... sewing, cross stitching, painting, knitting, etc.

I still say the economy isn't the best. Companies still aren't hiring or paying real well. Some anyway. Are peoples shopping habits changing? In general are people spending as much as they used to? Kind of wondering when I get bombarded with all these coupons and "deals" in my email.

Maybe there are some of us, ahem *me* ahem that have plenty. Personally, I don't really scrapbook shop much. I didn't do a ton to begin with. I buy even less now. I don't think it is dieing. I just think it is changing. 20 yrs ago, I saw way more cross stitch things out at the store than I do now. There were bins and bins of every color imaginable from DMC of embroidery floss. You don't see so much anymore. I think people will still scrapbook, as it has been done for many, many years. Just not to the extent it is now. I will still be scrapbooking. I am bummed that all the stores are closing. Archiver's sounds like the whole company may be closing. That is sad. There will be a lot of jobs lost. MN alone has quite a few stores along with the corporate office. I think I need to stock up on albums, pg. protectors and adhesives.

Unfortunately, things come and go. Think back to when you were a kid. When I was little, there were stores, like the super Targets and Super Walmarts that had everything - groceries and all the other items. Then they all closed, and now they are back.

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Posted: 12/25/2013 12:36:39 PM
For me: I have not bee buying as much as I used to however I do buy from only two places unless there is something that I really want and it is not at weather of the 2 store. The stores I shop at are online. I enjoy the reward points and customer loyalty that I receive. I also am now understanding my style so that helps in the spending. Instead of buying every new product I buy a select few and use them instead of hoarding or worse giving them away. That is just my preference though.


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Posted: 12/25/2013 3:23:34 PM
I think scrapping differs a lot from handicrafts - even ones that take a lot of time and supplies like quilting - because it requires you to a) do stuff in your life that you like and want to preserve and b ) reflect on those things. Rather than make or buy a straight-forward design, get the materials, and get to work constructing, you have to decide how you're going to represent your life in book form, and that's not easy. Plus, there's the added rub of frequently taking good photos and managing them to feed the pipeline, which is all computer-based, so scrappers are inherently multi-taskers in a way cross-stitchers are not.

I think in our society overall there's always money for hobbies. People just don't want to spend their time combining crafting with memory-keeping, if they can keep their photos and captions digitally, chronologically and automatically publicly on social media, and not have to work so hard juggling supplies, photos, and ideas.

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Posted: 12/25/2013 4:30:40 PM
I think most of it has to do with the fact that like most crafts, it has a life cycle and it's in a downward trend right now.

I remember about 15 years ago, quilting was huge. Our town of 20K had two large quilt shops and the next town over of 10K had a quilt shop, plus there were quilt shops in the big city 15 minutes away. Now, there is one small quilt shop left in all those areas.

Further back, when I was young, I did a lot of crewel embroidery. I took a class to learn with friends and we all made so many pillow covers and wall pieces and kneelers for church. You could go into any craft store and find tons of kits. I couldn't tell you the last time I saw a kit for crewel embroidery.

However, I also think this post makes an excellent point:

think scrapping differs a lot from handicrafts - even ones that take a lot of time and supplies like quilting - because it requires you to a) do stuff in your life that you like and want to preserve and b ) reflect on those things. Rather than make or buy a straight-forward design, get the materials, and get to work constructing, you have to decide how you're going to represent your life in book form, and that's not easy. Plus, there's the added rub of frequently taking good photos and managing them to feed the pipeline, which is all computer-based, so scrappers are inherently multi-taskers in a way cross-stitchers are not.

I don't think most crafters are also artistic/creative or they are not comfortable trying to be artistic/creative. So when scrapbooking was taught in the CM way -- simple simple with stickers and pens -- it seemed easy and accessible to everyone. As time went on and the hobby became more artistic, it intimidated a lot of people out of trying. I know I saw that once at a hobby day at work, when I brought my sb stuff in and people who wanted to try, looked at my LOs and literally backed away, saying, "I could NEVER do that!" I was urging them to just try it and they kept comparing their work with mine. I pointed out to one lady who is a great cake decorator, that I could not replicate her work the first time out, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't start, does it? In any case, lesson learned and the next time, I deliberately made up what are realllllly simple LOs and people were far more interested to trying it out.

I think that simplicity and ease of creation are why PL has been such a hit - it's sbing returning to its recent roots.

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Posted: 12/25/2013 5:15:44 PM
It's unimaginable to me not to scrapbook. Last night, in a moment of calm, that familiar feeling rose up in me -- "I feel like scrapbooking." And so I did, happily.

It can't die. The thought of it makes me ill. It is so much a part of who I am.

Maybe the ways in which we document our lives have started to shift, however, and for some, Facebook and Instagram and other forms of social networking have become the mode by which we share our day-to-day lives as well as our monumental experiences with others. Maybe something in us feels that the "need" to share or capture has been met through that. Still, it's not enough. Those forms of communication aren't designed to endure, aren't meant to result in keepsakes, and are not conducive to storytelling that goes beyond blurbs and fragments. That kind of sharing is important, but it only serves a momentary purpose; it cannot replace true memory keeping.

This is why scrapbooking will stay alive for me -- it all comes down to the story. As long as there are stories to tell, and as long as there is respect for memory and an understanding that there is power in the page, then there will be a place for scrapbooking in my life.



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Posted: 12/25/2013 5:48:08 PM
I don't think Sbing is dying bit by bit. I think it has split into many different directions. What works for me doesn't work for everyone.
I have project life kits but have yet to use them. I use them not in project life style. I use the cards on my pages to jazz them up a bit.
However with my daughter who is just starting Sbing. I started her with project life kits. She is a young busy mother with not a lot of time to be artsy. But she can quickly and easily get these memories down just by putting a card in a sectioned off page protector. This method of Sbing is working for her. I still like to start with a blank page and see what I can come up with. I like the more artsy style but don't over embellish. That is how I want my memories preserved. Papers and embellishments are going digital. Not just for digital Sbing but for users to print out and make their own embellishments as needed. No need to stock up on papers and embellishments if you have a digital file of them ready to print and cut when you need them. I personally got sick of the big push to buy this product or that product or cartridge of images. It really took away the joy of my hobby. I don't need the latest and greatest to create. This big push was what started to turn me off and hang low for awhile. I just plain need a break from it all. I was spending money left and right to keep up with what was on the market. I found myself following the trends. Now I look at all the stuff I have. I have more then enough product to finish what I have left of pictures I have to scrapbook. I am becoming more picky with what products I buy and why I buy them. I don't want this stuff sitting on a shelf. I learned in a quick hurry never buy any product if it is not on sale. I only buy product when there is a sale. So for me 'no sale' 'no need to purchase' a product. Online shopping is a easy way of searching for the best price. I remember back in the day having to drive from store to store to get the best price on a product. I don't have to do that now. By the way, I love to cross stich and I am having a problem of finding a good selection of things. The art has slowed down. Not much to chose from any more. The other thing that has slowed me down with my Sbing hobby is work and sometimes long hours. I just don't have the time to do it all at my age. The only times I really get any Sbing done is when I'm on vacation. I do take vacation just so I have time to enjoy my hobby. I think everyone has different reasons why they are spending less time with this hobby.



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Posted: 12/25/2013 6:02:44 PM
I really don't think SBing is dying. It just isn't as popular as it used to be.

At the height of it's popularity SBing was absolutely huge. There were stores, magazines, conventions, classes, and contests. Any hobby that was that big is bound to look small when it settles down to normal.

I think the buying fever has gone, and people don't feel as pressured to have the latest and greatest. There are fewer mags and celebs to dictate what's 'in' and what we 'must have'. People are using their stashes and buying what they like, not a bunch of stuff that will end up in the purge pile in a couple of years. I know I am.

Plus a lot of people are bandwagoners--they jump into whatever is popular. When that craft cycles down they go on to the next popular thing, whatever that is now (I think it's knitting).

In any case, looking at the amount of posters we have here and on other boards I think the hobby is still alive and well.


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Posted: 12/26/2013 12:13:25 AM
I think the biggest reason and for many years is digital cameras. Which morphed into cell phones that take decent pictures. Most people don't print photos anymore. Just use social media; instagram, facebook, blogs, etc...

I know I've cut way back. I don't have the room anymore. I've tried selling stamps and sizzix dies on a local yard sale group and I can't give it away. The only thing that has sold is lots of paper for cheap and cricut cartridges; and I live in Utah. Where CK and so many SB companies started. It's definitely decreased in popularity.


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Posted: 12/26/2013 5:27:39 AM
I don't think it is dying, its just evolving where some people now prefer to sbook digitally and progress to other crafts as well. As far as stores closing, it is similar to other high street stores where they find shoppers are increasingly doing their shopping online.

Indieeditingstamper: Don't feel pressured from what you see. I don't follow trends or what others are doing. I don't like too many embellishments on my pages because I feel it detracts from the photos.

I do my sbing within my own budget and in my own style.I don;t care what others are doing because your sbing should be personal to you and reflect your own style


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I do my sbing within my own budget and in my own style.I don;t care what others are doing because your sbing should be personal to you and reflect your own style




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Posted: 12/26/2013 10:06:50 AM
Because those folks who had to have the latest 'it' item have reached their saturation point after a few years of shopping (speaking of myself here
I had to stop shopping because we have moved, and even though I have a dedicated room for art, I have no more space at all - not for a single additional paper collection! My dh always comments that I have the equivalent of a scrapbook store in my SB room...it's true. I'm not bragging, it's actually a hinderance to creativity oftentimes, as it takes me a long time to put everything away, or find what I need...more stuff = feeling more overwhelmed.

When I was actively submitting my work for PUBs, and getting it published, I got more caught up in the trends and a certain way it had to look to be popular and trendy. Some of this work I look at now and don't like because it is not 'me'. So back then, shopping was driven by trends and outside approval of my work.
I'm getting back to my SB'ing roots of doing this hobby for me. It's been a long learning process, but I'm finding what is important to me in scrapbooking: long(-er) journaling and getting the story down, non-product driven pages, focus on the photos, earthy and more saturated colors, and experimenting with new art techniques on some pages.

Finally, scrapbook shopping and scrapping are two separate hobbies, really!!!
The more I shopped the less I scrapped. I was going through a stressful time in my life, so shopping was like a momentary high, a walk through a magic land of beautiful supplies. It became addictive, it became a problem, because it was a method of dealing with unpleasant emotions. I know it had to stop, so it did. Now when the urge hits to shop, I shop my supply closet, and I find things I forgot I had.
I imagine other scrappers have had similar experiences



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In the early (popular) days of scrapping, typical pages were the kind that anyone could do. In recent years, the trend went to artsy pages, with lots and lots of embellishments.

Potential new scrappers are overwhelmed and scared off, either because of the cost per page, the time required, or because what they typically see just isn't their style.

The magazines and the manufacturers pushed for more creative pages with lots of product. The end result is that they helped to build their own coffin by limiting the appeal of scrapping to those willing to follow the artsy trend. Instead of a wide scrapping audience, the appeal shrunk way down, and the economy problems shrunk its popularity even more,


I think this has a lot to do with the declining popularity of scrapbooking and why Project Life blew up so big. If you think about it, PL has filled the "for newbies" gap left by CM. So many people have said they got started with CM, unfortunately they did not evolve with the industry and became more and more irrelevant to both new and existing scrappers. PL has now become the brand with a simple system that is non-threatning for a newbie but versatile enough for an experienced scrapper.

I would also say it doesn't help when scrappers judge other scrapper saying what they are doing "is not really scrapping". Just because someone is doing it differently than you doesn't mean they are doing it "wrong".

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Posted: 12/26/2013 11:04:24 AM
I owned a store and for the most part people wanted to scrap their memories in their style. What sold the best was the simple stuff. I couldn't give away basic grey...but sold out of basic patterned papers. The sample layouts I had, the simpler the more the product sold. If it was to artsy, people admired it but wouldn't want to recreate it.

I think the closing of stores and more big box stores kind of took it to a different level.
Not as many crops. That's what I miss. Having a place to get away and hang with friends and craft. We try now to go to an annual event for a weekend, but it's not the same as the Wednesday night group I use to crop with from 7 to midnight. It was perfect time after dinner not an entire weekend just a little socialization.

I don't do digital as I spend enough time on a computer. And project life hasn't excited me. I scrap with what inspires me and in my style. I don't do it for publication, I scrap for me.




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Posted: 12/26/2013 11:10:06 AM
I've never thought of scrapbooking ever dying for me.
Jill says it so well.

This is why scrapbooking will stay alive for me -- it all comes down to the story. As long as there are stories to tell, and as long as there is respect for memory and an understanding that there is power in the page, then there will be a place for scrapbooking in my life.


No matter "how" you scrap or what you choose to scrap with, it always boils down to telling your story, your way.
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Posted: 12/26/2013 12:13:03 PM
I think the core of scrapbooking will always be around. the core being photos in a book with some type of title, journaling and maybe embellishment. however, I think the pressure of having super elaborate pages and monstrous books have turned some people away from the hobby. the downturn in the economy has also refocused disposable income. people still enjoy taking photos and cell phones and tablets have increased that photo taking ability. in some way the devices themselves have turned into a form of scrapbooking with the time and money drain of sitting down to work on physical albums.



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Posted: 12/26/2013 12:57:33 PM
I find that this hobby is "evolving". Many people have evidently switched to a Project Life style, which requires fewer supplies and less time. Others have expanded to general paper crafting - making cards and home decor items. I myself have found that I need to buy far less "stuff", partly because I already have so much and partly because of my Silhouette Cameo - I can make almost any embellishment I want. I mostly need paper and glue. And lastly, I have found that mortar and brick stores just do not provide me with adequate choices - I have much more luck getting what I want online. As for the mags, I got disenchanted with most of them years ago, they seemed to exist mainly to help sell product and stir up a frenzy for the latest and greatest. I suspect that many people are still scrapbooking, but doing it on their own terms and in their own way, which is the way it should be.

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Posted: 12/26/2013 6:21:56 PM
I think the people who have been scrapbooking since it's peak in popularity a few years back already have a big stash and their buying has slowed down. Also for me the more stuff I accumulated the less I wanted to try to pack for a crop and found it easier just to scrapbook at home.

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Posted: 12/26/2013 7:14:05 PM
I agree with those who think scrapbooking is dying.
it has been dying for several years, probably the last 5 for sure.

The reasons have been stated:
-- new people are not coming into the hobby, especially young people. They don't deal with paper. It's all about instant and digital.
-- die hard scrappers are saturated with product. Not only did we buy just to buy, we snapped up other people's stuff when they sold it or gave it away.
-- places to scrapbook just aren't around like they were. People on here may have scraprooms, but many scrapbookers did it in more public venues, like store crops, church crops, etc. Those places aren't around anymore.
-- many people got into scrapbooking because everyone was scrapbooking. They didn't stay in the hobby. They maybe did a few pages, scrapped a few times, bought alot of stuff, but it wasn't for them. That happened probably beginning in like 2007 or so - when the one photo 'moments' layouts gained popularity, as well as 3D items. New scrappers liked theme scrapping; when that took a back seat they got off the train.
-- the preponderance of digital photography overwhelmed would be scrappers. It's one thing to scrap a role of 12 prints from Christmas, it's another to have 1500 photos of Disney and ending up with 3 albums of one 5 day trip. It's overwhelming. Scrappers started to get overwhelmed by the thought of scrapping their photos. It seemed an endless task.
-- the industry addressed that issue by promoting minialbums. That worked for awhile. Then those scrappers decided that you can only have so many albums.
-- scrappers like me were forced to switch from 12x12 to a smaller size because of shear lack of space. Thousands of pages and over 100 albums need a place to be. Smaller albums means fewer supplies. So overwhelming amounts of supplies get used up even more slowly.
-- Lack of stores, magazines, conventions, vendors, supplies, crops, means fewer people are exposed to the hobby. If only AC Moore or Michaels is available for the average scrapper who does not buy online, their one sheet of baseball paper or two sheets of Christmas or baby paper doesn't cut it. Product is uninspiring. That's why there are still tons of stickers - people love them. They are cheap, easier to store, and can be used with cardstock - kind of back to basics scrapping.

That's my take on it. but it is definately dying. Maybe not for individual scrappers on this board, but when no one wants in to an industry, when people are baling out and have already done so years before this, it is a hobby that has seen its heyday.


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Posted: 12/26/2013 8:09:50 PM
"I don't think it IS dying- why do you think it IS?

Just because there are stores closing and magazines no longer publishing paper copies doesn't mean the hobby of scrapbooking is dying or ending. It just means that people shop and get inspiration in different ways than they used to. "


I agree with the above. And I would add, that it's probably pretty difficult for one person to pronounce that the industry is dying unless they have access to some statistical analysis that we are not aware of....
Some stores have closed but honestly retail stores of all types are closing every day....
Here in my part of Canada, we still have art stores that sell scrapbooking stuff, a LSS , an Expo that runs every year and an absolutely fantastic scrapbook magazine (Canadian Scrapbooker)....
When I visited New Zealand awhile ago, there were a couple scrapbook stores there that I shopped in...
Every year in the spring, I go on a scrapbook retreat with a bunch of other women....we've had 16 women for the weekend....
I just don't think it's "dying" (from my personal experience,) it's just changing!
I do a lot of my shopping online now for everything, including scrapbook supplies....I did a whole bunch of my Christmas shopping online.....
A lot of different types of magazines and newspapers are shutting down now or going online....I've seen 3 different ONLINE scrapbooking magazines in the last while....

Also, there are a few scrapbooking podcasts on iTunes and I subscribe to more than 30 scrapbooking blogs....I'm sure there are actually hundreds of them!
This also shows that there's interest out there......


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Posted: 12/26/2013 10:03:47 PM

-- the preponderance of digital photography overwhelmed would be scrappers. It's one thing to scrap a role of 12 prints from Christmas, it's another to have 1500 photos of Disney and ending up with 3 albums of one 5 day trip. It's overwhelming. Scrappers started to get overwhelmed by the thought of scrapping their photos. It seemed an endless task.
I think that's an excellent point. The promotion of the idea of scrapping every photo created a vision of the hobby that made it no longer fun, but a dauntless, endless task. The hobby became a duty, rather than something fun, for many people. Moreover, given the sheer number of photos we take today, there was no way to "catch up" -- it was a Sisyphean task. No wonder many people gave up.

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I think scrapping differs a lot from handicrafts - even ones that take a lot of time and supplies like quilting - because it requires you to a) do stuff in your life that you like and want to preserve and b ) reflect on those things. Rather than make or buy a straight-forward design, get the materials, and get to work constructing, you have to decide how you're going to represent your life in book form, and that's not easy. Plus, there's the added rub of frequently taking good photos and managing them to feed the pipeline, which is all computer-based, so scrappers are inherently multi-taskers in a way cross-stitchers are not.

I think in our society overall there's always money for hobbies. People just don't want to spend their time combining crafting with memory-keeping, if they can keep their photos and captions digitally, chronologically and automatically publicly on social media, and not have to work so hard juggling supplies, photos, and ideas.


I agree with this for the most part.

Scrapbooking is WORK.
I'm overwhelmed with great photos.
I have so many scrapbooks already that nobody looks at and that require storage space.

I've almost totally switched to card making - I still get the joy of creating - they go out of my house and then are no longer my problem. If someone chooses to keep them, great! THEY can figure out how to store them.

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Posted: 12/27/2013 7:47:55 AM
I don't think scrapbooking is dying but like so many said here, it is changing and evolving. Scrapbooking has been around for a very long time, just in a different way.
The creative part of scrapbooking w/all the supplies to buy for that is dwindling I know but honestly, I cannot scrap as fast as I can shop.
I have been scrapping for 14+ years now and can probably scrap for another year & many more with what I have on hand.
I tallied up my LO's and cards for this year: 33 LO's & just as many cards. So that's not a lot compared to what I can buy.
The buyers cannot support all the suppliers that want to flood the market with stuff with the frenzy of the past 10+yrs.
I think scrapbooking will never die, but will calm down a bit.
I intend to die w/my trimmer & adhesive in my hands and bits of paper and glitter all over me .


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