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Posted: 3/1/2014 6:35:06 PM
I just bought a stack of papers specifically to use as backgrounds. I am trying to decide if I should gut the papers since I basically bought them just to use as backgrounds or not. Is it wasteful if I don't gut. I always gut, but with these I am thinking it is not worth it. Thoughts? When do you gut?


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Posted: 3/1/2014 6:36:53 PM
Do you mean cut the middle out????? I've never done that a day in my life. I like the stability of the entire sheet. I can't imagine knowing the paper was "gutted." (That cracks me up.) I would feel like it wasn't sturdy enough to hold my layout but I like things thick! I figure I have enough paper that I don't have to worry about things like that.



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Posted: 3/1/2014 6:41:25 PM
I used to, but now I like the stability of a whole page as a background.


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Posted: 3/1/2014 6:44:56 PM
If I'm making a 2-page layout or am working on an album, I'll gut the center to help keep the pages cohesive, otherwise, not so much. I don't tend to use my scraps, so it isn't worth it to me to do it all the time.



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Posted: 3/1/2014 7:01:10 PM
I gut (if that means taking the center out
Mostly do that with card stock, but if it is cheap thin paper then I use the whole piece.

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Posted: 3/1/2014 7:16:00 PM
Yup, I take the centre out of the paper if I'm layering....especially if you are only going to see a 1/4 inch of paper all around....
I feel like I'm wasting paper if I don't do it!


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Posted: 3/1/2014 7:21:27 PM
For me it totally depends. I make quite a few pages with tiny patterned paper edges...like 1/4 inch all the way around. If I like the paper enough and think I can use it easily on other pages I will gut it since i am just going to stick an 11.5 inch square over it anyway and it will be stable enough. If I don't love the paper and can't see myself using it soon then I don't bother. So in your case, you bought the papers to use JUST as backgrounds i probably wouldn't bother.



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Posted: 3/1/2014 7:25:52 PM
I also always gut, I like to layer a lot and I tend to buy only one of each page so I like to hoard the scraps....for a "just-in-case" moment


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Posted: 3/1/2014 7:37:21 PM
No, I never have.

A lot of people did it around 2007-8, it was a thing...or maybe a little before that, but that was before a lot of two sided papers and mostly thicker cardstock.

I'd be afraid of the lack of stability if you do a few embellishments. You could always try on one and see if you like the idea.


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Posted: 3/1/2014 7:48:40 PM

I used to, but now I like the stability of a whole page as a background.


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Posted: 3/1/2014 7:50:40 PM
I never gut, unless it's the only sheet I have and love and can't get anymore. Too many papers to use to gut.




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Posted: 3/1/2014 7:55:57 PM
I only gut while I'm creating if I need the other piece for that layout or like it enough for another. I would never do a mass gutting in one fell swoop.


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Posted: 3/1/2014 7:57:10 PM
I can't think of a time when I've ever gutted. I suppose if I only had 1 piece of that particular paper & needed a small piece I would, but otherwise nope.

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Posted: 3/1/2014 8:05:44 PM
I gut about half the time. Depends on the paper and the layout.


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Posted: 3/1/2014 8:11:28 PM
I only gut when I know I need the extra paper from the middle because I didn't buy enough to complete my idea. Otherwise, no I don't gut it.

It isn't "saving paper" if it sits in my partial page stash forever and ends up never being use.


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Posted: 3/1/2014 8:43:16 PM
It really depends.

A lot of time the paper that you barely see around the edges is something I don't like on its own. I might cut out some from the middle to use to back something else on the layout or to use in a facing pocket page, but usually I'm happy to let it go.

If it has a motif, I may cut some out from the middle to embellish the layout and if I really really like the paper, I'll cut out the middle to use again.







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Posted: 3/1/2014 9:41:34 PM
I just did that today on a sheet of paper that I loved. It does depend on whether or not I really like the paper or not.

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Posted: 3/1/2014 10:14:26 PM
Wow, that's funny - I've never heard it referred to as gutting, but it makes perfect sense. Anyway, I never gut a whole background paper. Like others have said, I like the stability of using the whole sheet.

OTOH, I almost always gut any paper I use for matting photos. I usually punch out tags (or other shapes) from it, then use them elsewhere on the LO or the facing page if I'm doing a 2-page LO. Tags are the most common punch shape I do this with, mainly because I tend to use them a lot and I can get 2 tags out of 1 4x6 matting piece. My tag punch leaves a good enough sized edge to mat the photo.

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Posted: 3/1/2014 10:25:08 PM
I've only gutted twice in my 12 years of Scrapbooking. Both times were a two-pager and I needed it for cohesiveness since I only had one sheet. But otherwise no, I have so much paper and scraps are just more clutter in my opinion.


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Posted: 3/1/2014 10:42:14 PM
I never do that unless I have plans for the paper on another project and I only have one piece. It's not wasteful, it's a style. If you bought them for the purpose of making them backgrounds, then use them as backgrounds.


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Posted: 3/1/2014 11:27:39 PM
I have only resorted to gutting a couple times, and like others said it was because I was doing a two page spread with only one sheet of paper and I needed more of it. In those cases, I backed w/ card stock to keep the structure.

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Posted: 3/2/2014 2:09:27 AM
I prefer nôt to as I like the solidity and have plenty of paper and card stock and paper in my stash and unlikely to stop buying anytime soon. I would if I was at an event and didn't have enough stash with me or if I knew I was going to use it on the coordinating page, or it was rare or maybe a speciality paper. In your example no, I wouldn't, but each to their own

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Posted: 3/2/2014 7:21:58 AM
Never thought of this!


OTOH, I almost always gut any paper I use for matting photos. I usually punch out tags (or other shapes) from it, then use them elsewhere on the LO or the facing page if I'm doing a 2-page LO. Tags are the most common punch shape I do this with, mainly because I tend to use them a lot and I can get 2 tags out of 1 4x6 matting piece. My tag punch leaves a good enough sized edge to mat the photo.


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Posted: 3/2/2014 7:42:08 AM
This post cracks me up.... I have visions of mad scrapers with exacto knives and guillotine cutters hacking at paper....think it could be the next horror genre....it would be a pea cult classic!!!! Lol


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Posted: 3/2/2014 9:32:02 AM
I would only do that if I loved the paper or needed the paper for other places on the layout.
Too much paper in my stash, not enough time to use it up.


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Posted: 3/2/2014 10:51:40 AM
I only do it if I need it for a 2 page spread. I have so much paper that i just need to make some I away lol
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Posted: 3/2/2014 11:00:40 AM
I just bought a lot of Jillibean papers for a album for my son. I will probably "gut" those. I only do it if I am trying to make the album all cohesive and need bits of the paper for other pages.

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Posted: 3/2/2014 1:19:45 PM
Only if I love it and want to use it again. Or sometimes I like both sides of the pp. you guys find it funny about gutting and I find it funny about the stability of the layout. In all my 16 years of scrapping I never had an unstable layout. I don't use those super lightweight papers they used to make. Only gut if it is true love of the pp.


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Posted: 3/2/2014 2:48:41 PM
I cut out the center if I like the paper, particularly if it is part of a new collection since I usually one buy one piece of each pattern. It it is older and I'm trying to move some paper out of my stash, then I don't. Sometimes I adhere everything to a piece of thinner paper as a stabilizer when I have cut the center out.


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Posted: 3/2/2014 2:54:00 PM
If you use it as a background and don't "gut," I don't think it's wasteful. You've used the paper. Like others, the only time I cut the middle out is if I only have one piece and need to use it as a layer on that page or a face page.


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Posted: 3/2/2014 4:21:17 PM
It has never even crossed my mind to do something like this.... wow... I like how layers of papers make my pages nice and stiff...so I would think a hole in the center would lessen this effect.


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Posted: 3/2/2014 7:41:10 PM
I only gut if I know I will use the piece somewhere else on the same layout; otherwise, it's just making more scraps and more scraps is NOT what I need!


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Posted: 3/3/2014 6:56:30 AM
It's not wasteful to not cut out the centers of your paper. It's more work. It's more paper to organize and store. And then it's more stress later when you feel like you are dealing with too many scraps. Use the full sheets without hesitation. No one else will know.

Like many of the other posters, I leave all my background pages whole.

But 99% of the time I am using cardstock for the background. I'm old school and like solids better than prints.


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Posted: 3/3/2014 7:03:38 AM
A lot depends on the papers and the layout, and if I need any of it for other things. I rarely gut, but did on one layout not long ago, because I needed more of that paper than I had.

I wouldn't be concerned about conserving paper. Is it wasteful? Not in my book.


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Posted: 3/3/2014 7:47:14 AM
I've only done it a few times when I "needed" the paper. I no longer worry about wasting the paper - I am trying to just enjoy it and use it up.


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Posted: 3/3/2014 8:14:43 AM
I have yet to ever gut, but I think this thread just gave me a lot of ideas for times when I could! I think doing it to give cohesiveness to a 2-page spread, when you only have the one piece of paper, sounds like a great idea.

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Posted: 3/3/2014 9:19:20 AM
I have a few times if I needed the center section for something. If I do, I just tape a piece of generic white 8.5 x 11 office cardstock to the back for stability.


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Posted: 3/3/2014 9:24:34 AM
I will cut out parts that are just being hidden when I layer on a page. I do 2 page coordinating layouts so I feel like it's wasteful if half or more of a journaling card or paper are hidden when it can be used for the other layout.


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Posted: 3/3/2014 10:03:14 AM
I very rarely gut my paper. If I happen to be working on a page that I know I will use a part of the background on the rest of the page or on a 2 page spread I will, but that's it. I have way too much paper to gut everything and hold onto the scraps. Especially since there is always more paper coming out!

When I do gut, I always adhere the layout to another piece of cardstock to add more stability. I like have stable pages.


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Posted: 3/3/2014 2:32:50 PM
I've only done it a few times. It's always been a situation where I have a very limited supply of paper for the project I'm working on. If I really love it, I will buy a second sheet. I know there will always be more pretty paper on the horizon.


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Posted: 3/3/2014 2:32:50 PM
I've only done it a few times. It's always been a situation where I have a very limited supply of paper for the project I'm working on. If I really love it, I will buy a second sheet. I know there will always be more pretty paper on the horizon.


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Posted: 3/3/2014 3:27:02 PM
I have never gutted a piece of paper. Then again, I generally purchase all of my patterned paper in multiples of two.



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Posted: 3/3/2014 3:38:23 PM

I only gut when I know I need the extra paper from the middle because I didn't buy enough to complete my idea. Otherwise, no I don't gut it.


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Posted: 3/3/2014 4:03:13 PM

This post cracks me up.... I have visions of mad scrapers with exacto knives and guillotine cutters hacking at paper....think it could be the next horror genre....it would be a pea cult classic!!!! Lol


Typically not a horror fan, but I'd watch that!


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Posted: 3/4/2014 12:39:40 PM
I often "gut" the hidden parts of my layout by cutting a title or embellishments on my Cameo, and placing those cuts in the center (or hidden spot) of a 12x12 sheet. I create my layout but before I glue it together, i see where I can hide the cuts.

I try not to gut anything that is directly behind a photo so over time the weight of my scrapbook might cause the photo to cave in to the cuts below it. If I really need to gut something and I worry about my layout caving in, I replace the cuts with lightweight cardstock cut to the same shape so it fills in the gaps.

I know that seems like extra work, but it does allow me to use patterned paper wisely. I can often use one sheet of patterned paper on two or three 12x12 pages, with this method. I am an efficient scrap user, however. Using the gutting method, I often can buy one sheet of patterned paper instead of two, and still create a 12x24" layout.

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Posted: 3/4/2014 2:41:58 PM
If it's a paper that I want to use again on another layout I do. Most of the time I don't bother. Like Shimelle says they will make more pretty paper.

I'm trying to use up my stash not make myself more stuff I feel guilty about not using!
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Posted: 3/4/2014 2:57:32 PM
I gut all the time but I'm careful to keep my layout enough sturdy, so I usually don't gut my photo mats, for instance, and when I layer 3 background, I only gut the one in the middle (or my favorite pattern).
As I love adding a small frame to my layouts, it really makes sense for me to gut my background. And I do use my scraps a lot (I'm also a cardmaker).
I have a nice stash in my opinion (I scrap for more than 5 years now), but most of you would probably find it very small !



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Posted: 3/4/2014 10:17:06 PM

Is it wasteful if I don't gut?
I don't think so. You bought those papers to use as backgrounds so go ahead and use them.


When do you gut?
First you need to know, I only ever buy 1 of a pattern.

I gut when:

1) I really, really love the paper. In that case I want to get it onto as many layouts as possible. Mats, embellishments, titles. Heck if I really, truly and deeply love it, the tiny thumb punches come out and it becomes confetti.

2) I am working on a two page spread.

3) I am working on a larger project - like a set of vacation photos and want some continuity throughout the pages.

4) I have no more of that colour. Mostly it's pink that happens with.

Thoughts?

I've never worried about stability. If things seem wonky I back the whole layout with a piece of ugly (or no longer my style) cardstock weight paper. That moves a piece of paper out of my stash and into my album and makes for pretty backsides too.

It does take longer but I find I can between 2 and 5 pages from a piece of paper, granted there will likely 2 other part pieces on there too.


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Posted: 3/4/2014 10:29:10 PM
I wouldn't pre-gut them but I seldom gut anyways. I tend to have issues with getting my adhesive lined up right. I end up off center or wonky in some way.

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Posted: 3/4/2014 10:33:25 PM
I used to gut all the time. I figured I was wasting paper. I paid good money for paper that was just going to be covered up!

I got over that.

It is more of a I paid good money for these supplies and I am den well going to use them!

Now I only gut if I don't have anymore of that particular paper and I want more right now. No more saving for the possibility of it going on a future layout.
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