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Posted: 4/15/2014 10:07:38 AM
Wow, just wow. I am left completely shaking my head over the way Paper Tales handled this. I'm so sorry to the OP for how you've been treated. The store couldn't possible have thought you needed multiples of the stamp for yourself. Your explanation is completely understandable.

I am marking Paper Tales off of my travel plans from now on. Which is a shame since I will be in the area next week and was looking forward to shopping there again. The fact that she continues to bash the OP instead of apologizing makes me sick. Frankly, my preschool has better manners!

I think Paper Tales has missed the boat for an apology but I think KP should definitely retract and apologize. It would go a long way towards helping me feel more comfortable about making future purchases of her products.
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Posted: 4/15/2014 10:11:11 AM
Add ME to the list of people that won't be buying anything by Kelly Purkey AND won't ever order from Paper Tales. If the OP had really been trying to "make" money, she'd have put it up for auction, not sold here.

Oh, and I buy multiples of stamps or dies for a friend all the time AND I participate on group buys too.


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Posted: 4/15/2014 10:17:11 AM
Had been thinking of getting the sketch class also. At this point, thinking not gonna happen. AND I just don't even know what to think about the store at this time. I would think in today's economy, ANY store would be happy to be moving inventory. How and what I do with MY purchases after they leave a store is MY business.


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Posted: 4/15/2014 10:43:00 AM
Wow. Just jumping in to share my personal experience. I feel badly for all parties, because obviously this has been a downwardly spiraling situation and do I daresay, for many that had no personal involvement.

I contacted the OP by PM within about an hour of her orginal post on Saturday, letting her know I was interested and asking the price and if a set was still available. She read my PM shortly after it was sent, yet I had no response, so Sunday morning I sent a follow up PM inquiring again if a set was available. Again no response, so I posted an inquiry on this post mid-day on Sunday. Personally, between the poor communication and the OP's responses on this post, my suspicions are that intents were not as pure as they are being made out to be. Nearly everyone I have had transactions with on 2P's has been wonderful, particularly their communication, and generally I steer clear of listings without the price included (of which there aren't many on here) but I really would love the set to use for a recent CA family trip.

If the store was being contacted by others about OP's inflated resale, I would tend to see why they are upset. They had faith that OP was doing as she said - picking them up for friends. I have at least 20 stampers in my circle of friends and I wouldn't do what OP did, even though I could personally deliver to them. Particularly if I had to receive and turn around and ship them back out to said "friends". Instead, I would just share where they couuld also find the limited edition stamps to purchase directly.

Regardless, I don't want to make any further assumptions about OP, beyond my own sense that things weren't on the up-and-up. Trying to now return them seems ridiculous. I have no knowlege of the store and I like KP's work and will continue to support her. And again, I do understand why the store was upset -- to me, working directly with a store to purchase a quantity of a limited edition item for friends and then for them to see said same limited edition items being offered up to anyone at an inflated price (assuming that's accurate, as the store was originally alerted by others who weren't happy with what OP was going to turn around and sell them for) is just wrong.

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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:08:44 AM
As someone who's tired of not being able to buy products because someone has come in and bought multiples to resell (like SC every month or those PL overlays from HSN, etc), I guess I'm going to be one small voice of dissent in all this.

I don't live in Southern California so going to Paper Tales isn't a possibility for me, but I found out KP is coming to my area to teach and I've sought out the LSS and registered there so I can take her classes. I don't see how standing up for her customers' rights to buy a stamp set at suggested retail is a bad thing...



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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:26:00 AM
@Frazzled Mom - here's the thing - they both jumped to conclusions and posted publicly when they should have contacted the OP first to get the facts. That wasn't done. The OP only had extra stamps because people backed out. Wouldn't you try to sell them, too? She didn't have to post them for sale here, however. She could have put them up on eBay like many folks do (and have done with many KP stamps) but she didn't. The other thing is that the retail price of the stamp is way above normal market value for that size of stamp, so the profit margin is even higher! Lastly, the store sold them to her, and their control over the situation end there. I understand they want to adjust their policy, which is totally within their right to do, but to attack the OP based on assumptions is just totally unprofessional. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion, and based on the FB post that the store posted, they obviously cannot take a step back to be objective and see how their reaction to this was maybe not the best idea in light of the fact that they are a small business who need people like us here on this board to stay afloat. All day, every day, there's stamps sold for well over retail value (supply and demand!), and they aren't getting called out...this was a situation where she wasn't even doing that and yet her name is still being smeared! It's just ridiculous from my standpoint!

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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:26:16 AM
I don't think the OP did anything wrong. And I agree, that a store and the designer coming on here and bashing her like Paper Tales did is very unprofessional. I would never pay $15 for a 1" x 6" stamp set in the first place, so this stamp set (although it is cute) is WAY overpriced to begin with. After seeing how Kelley Purkey treated this poor woman who was just trying to help some fellow crafters out, I will remember her name in the future. We all put our pants on one leg at a time. So I really don't care whose name is on a product. It is inexcusable how this CUSTOMER was treated by both Paper Tales and Kelley Purkey. Shame on you both!

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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:27:20 AM
Just #BLOWN by this whole dialogue! I am pretty sure some breeches in customer privacy and confidentiality (a federal crime? IDK look it up) has happened here as well...This is a mess. SMDH


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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:42:24 AM
I am another who would be happy to buy from lilfeet79 in the future.

I would still like to hear from PaperTales and KP as to why they care if the stamps are resold or not. It's business. You are supposed to be business women, right? You named your price and made your sales. Yay for you. You should be happy.

And if we want to talk about true righteousness, let's all turn to Matthew 20:1-16, and specifically verse 15: Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me?

It doesn't matter if this woman was trying to make a profit or not! The designer and store made a profit on their sales. Why is that okay for them and not for someone else?!? Because it's their job? Because they have "bricks and mortar"? Give me a break!



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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:45:26 AM
". Yes we made a profit, we are a store"

And that should be enough
You made a profit
Be happy with that
I don't understand trying to tell someone they can't buy more than the ONE item they're going to use themselves
If someone wants to buy 100 items and resell or give them away it really shouldn't matter.


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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:51:35 AM
Sigh...why do people here always insist on tearing each other down? This incident is not enough to try to ruin someone's business over. Maybe things could have been handled better but spreading this story all over the internet? I don't see the point.


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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:54:04 AM
Wow. All I can say. Sorry for all you are taking on this matter lilfeet79. If I were you I would NOT offer to return those stamps. Offer them to those that are willing to pay. Everyone knows what going prices are. If they so choose to spend more, that is a personal decision and theirs alone. Please don't get me wrong on that statement. I don't even know what the going prices were, but it sounds to me like you bought those stamps and the company legitimately sold them to you. Those are yours to do with as you wish!

I've been looking at different stamp companies to buy from online and at shows. I am fairly new to the stamp world. I will be sure not to purchase from this company and am wondering if I will purchase anything KP is selling at all. I believe she should NOT have posted on this thread. It was a personal dig at you which she seems not to have complete knowledge of the situation. I'm sorry KP, but professionalism should have been your first concern in this matter. This is a very large site and we are a group who help one another in buying decisions. I hope this doesn't ruin your reputation in this community. I would hate to see that. I would hope you would actually come back and apologize to this OP.

I hope this thread is not deleted by TP's. In my opinion, we need to be sure to help one another buy from ethical companies. I have gotten irritated with TP's in the past, when in fact it really was my own fault/mistake. They were very cordial to me the entire time and the exact reason I will still do business with them and still recommend them to any new scrapper I come across.

Keep your head up lilfeet79. Again, stop trying to contact a company that obviously has no ethic in dealing with customers. Hopefully we will also see KP post another comment showing her professionalism. Whether right or wrong, she is a business person as well and should act like one. (I as well have personally owned brick and mortar and online businesses.)



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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:54:58 AM

I will not crawl under a rock and hide when I am telling the truth.


You THINK you are telling the truth. You are telling what you ASSUME is the truth, and guess what? It's making an ASS out of U just like assuming does. Sorry, but it does. If you were really concerned with the truth, you would have contacted her to see why she was selling them (without accusing her) and she could have explained what happened. Instead, you've chosen to slander her on your blog and fb page in an effort to have your loyal customers tell you how awful it is when you are now misrepresenting the truth to THEM! HELLO?! If the OP wanted to really turn a profit from these stamps, they would be on eBay. For a business owner you sure seem to not understand simple economics or professionalism.

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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:55:04 AM

Maybe things could have been handled better but spreading this story all over the internet? I don't see the point.


I agree, which is why I don't understand why PT came here in the first place, and then posted about it on their FB page, and then onto the Smack Blog.


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Posted: 4/15/2014 11:55:24 AM
Paper tales-San Diego, you've just make sure that you're company hits the top search strings for:

San Diego
Paper Tales
Scrapbooking.

Way to go really "smart" business people. LOL
Who has a link to the Donna Downey thread? That'll wise them up a bit.

The OP did nothing wrong, but quite frankly, the stuff you've posted about her sounds a lot like slander to me. I'd be especially annoyed if I were the op to find out that someone is posting on the internet exactly how much and what I'm purchasing.

My husband and I own two companies. One is a glass shop. Just this morning I had a gentleman call and order just the windshield from me even though we install them. You know what I said to that guy??!!

"Thank you"

Once they purchase something from me, it's no longer mine, it's theirs and I have zero say what they do with that product. They can sell it for a profit, they can install it themselves, heck they can throw it in the street if they want. It's not my call any more.

You've really showed your true colors on this thread.

Kelly Purkey, I wouldn't buy a fly from you and I'm really glad that Paper Tales is no where near me. Both an embarrassment to the scrapbooking industry... and the way this industry is going into the shithole, you'd think you'd spend more time bending over backwards to gain every customer you can rather than having some huge diva attitudes.


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Posted: 4/15/2014 12:04:24 PM

It is a tough economy for any small business and we are extremely loyal to our customers. I never dreamed that we would have someone tell us that they were buying for friends and then sell them for a profit. Yes we made a profit, we are a store. The point of the stamps was to allow customers to buy them and use them and ENJOY stamping with them.



Once you sell something, you really have no control over how the product is being used. A lot of companies should be bad mouthing me because I buy their products and then never USE THEM AND ENJOY stamping with them.

I am sure lots of products get sold and then used for purposes they were not intended for - say like guns. It is an extreme example but do you think Walmart wants a gun or rifle that was purchased at one of its stores was used in some sort of horrible massacre? I bet not.

I have always thought KP's stamps were way overpriced and have never purchased them. And some are pretty dang cute. I live in CT and will probably never get to California to this store and never even heard of it until this mess. Is bad publicity good publicity for them? I guess time will tell for them.


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Posted: 4/15/2014 12:08:11 PM
slyn11 - The designer and store-owner are the ones that started all of this, not the OP!



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Posted: 4/15/2014 1:10:50 PM
I used to go to a LSS that had a big theft problem. People would steal items and then re-sell them on web sites. I have a problem with that. But, the OP actually purchased the stamps and was trying to re-sell them (for no profit or not much of one). I have NO problem with that. If as a store owner my panties got in a bunch over a paying customer re-selling items then I would just chalk this up as a learning experience and limit the sales next time. I think Paper Tales could use a good public relations person right now!

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Posted: 4/15/2014 1:17:48 PM
I am an everyday scrapbooker, not much of a stamper, and I am not too familiar with the scrapbook designers, but this thread has really shocked me.

There is a big difference in the way a business should use social media and the way a private person uses it. Talk about a public relations fiasco! As a business owner myself, I am appalled at how far this store (and so-called designer) are removed from the reality of the business world.

I cannot imagine any other industry finding it acceptable to treat a customer this way. It's sounds like they were purposely made in limited quantity to create a high demand. Econ 101: scarcity = high demand = high price. What on earth did they think would happen?

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Posted: 4/15/2014 1:44:43 PM
I agree with all of the above,almost, haha! Customer confidentiality is important and shame on them for calling out a customer and divulging her private information! A big no no in my book- and I'm also a business owner. Kind of like business 101. They will not be around long at this rate.

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Posted: 4/15/2014 1:54:53 PM

Once they purchase something from me, it's no longer mine, it's theirs and I have zero say what they do with that product. They can sell it for a profit, they can install it themselves, heck they can throw it in the street if they want. It's not my call any more.

You've really showed your true colors on this thread.

Kelly Purkey, I wouldn't buy a fly from you and I'm really glad that Paper Tales is no where near me. Both an embarrassment to the scrapbooking industry... and the way this industry is going into the shithole, you'd think you'd spend more time bending over backwards to gain every customer you can rather than having some huge diva attitudes.



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Posted: 4/15/2014 2:42:21 PM
Wow! I din't think I would have went after the OP like this if I had been the business owner or designer. Many mistakes made. I agree with the posters about how our industry treats us and now they are struggling. You might want to think about what these posters are saying.


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Posted: 4/15/2014 3:17:28 PM
Wow - some people are really full of themselves! What a couple of asses.
I got to see what that stamp looks like. Really?!? That much (even the original price) for that little stamp?!? People are nucking futs.

Her intent really shouldn't even matter. You didn't set a limit. Too bad so sad. Sucks to be you. Sucks more now that you've shown everyone what kind of people you are!

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Posted: 4/15/2014 3:36:01 PM

". Yes we made a profit, we are a store"

And that should be enough
You made a profit
Be happy with that
I don't understand trying to tell someone they can't buy more than the ONE item they're going to use themselves
If someone wants to buy 100 items and resell or give them away it really shouldn't matter.


ITA. once those stamps left the store's possession, who cares what the buyer did with them? if she wanted to sell them for profit and if someone was willing to buy them with the extra mark up, what is it the business of the designer or the store owner? I don't understand where the designer and the owner could possibly believe they have any right to control the distribution of a product that is no longer in their direct possession.

KP is probably best to remain mum about this subject lest she go down the Donna Downey road of great 2peas scandals when it comes to "so-called celebrity SB'ers who have gotten too big for the britches" and incited the fury of the 2peas crowd.



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Posted: 4/15/2014 3:43:08 PM
I sold some stuff to lilfeet in the past and she is awesome! There was a problem with the album I shipped and I offered to give her a partial refund and she said no. I have nothing but respect for the OP. She is awesome.

Now Kelly Purkey & Paper Tales, you for sure won't be getting any of my money (I have purchased KP products in the past, but NEVER will buy anything in the future from her or anything she designs) and Paper Tales, glad I've never been in your store and I will never shop there when I'm in SD. It's a sucky thing you both did, but what Paper Tales did was disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Posted: 4/15/2014 3:57:21 PM
I'm quite surprised that a business owner with this level of unrofessionalism could have stayed in business as long as you say you have.

The bottom line is that no one in your business can control what happens to the product that you sell after you sell it. If you feel that you really need to control any aspect of this, just about the only thing that you could do would be to limit the purchase of each item to each individual purchaser. In other words only one stamp per purchase or something similar.

Beyond that, where the product goes or what happens to it is none of your business. Literally or figuratively.

You allowed this person to purchase in multiples. She did not steal anything from you. If she chose to hypothetically open her own store and sell those stamps in her store, that's her choice. ThAt no longer has anything to do with you.


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Posted: 4/15/2014 4:05:12 PM

I don't see how standing up for her customers' rights to buy a stamp set at suggested retail is a bad thing...


I don't have issue with Kelly's response. The store's response was crummy. I certainly won't be boycotting Kelly and/or her products.

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Posted: 4/15/2014 4:26:41 PM
Damn. It really IS Donna Downey all over again.

Paper Tales going out of business in 3,2,.......

Kelly Purkey, another pseudo scrap celeb losing relevance by end of day. Mean Girls never win. True colors prevail.

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Posted: 4/15/2014 4:52:58 PM
I have replied to all of the original poster's emails since Sunday and communicated with her about the issue privately.

I honestly did not know I wasn't allowed to call her by her real name, I was trying to be respectful by using it. I'm sorry, I was not aware of this rule.

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I'm only replying to hopefully resolve this (after KP's second response on here). After KP posted her initial comment, I emailed her, she emailed me back stating the same as she did on here initially (after I explained what the situation was --- since she didn't contact me before posting her comments) - she told me she felt I took advantage of the situation, after that I emailed her again (NO RESPONSE), then yesterday I explained that she should take a look at what she started on here, I again explained that I was very upset, that I WAS getting nasty messages, I was disappointed, I'm a big fan, etc, she chose to not address that, she chose not to apologize, she simply said she was "sorry I felt that way, she posted her opinions like others and she has since moved on from the situation" --- I'm just posting this as people might get the impression from what she just posted that we resolved this or that she apologized, which was not the case. YES she posted her opinion as we all have, BUT she and Paper tales make this into what is it, end of story, had KP not posted her opinion and addressed this privately, things would have turned out differently. I think a lot of people are upset, because you can see your self in my shoes, you can see buying for a group of friends and some friends backing out, I also think people are upset that a designer and a store are basically telling a customer what they can and cant do with something they purchased. I appreciate all the private messages I have gotten, on Sunday, I was VERY upset, KP nor Paper Tales cared then, since the first few comments were in agreement with what they were saying, when I told BOTH I was getting nasty messages neither apologized, however, after my 5th email to Paper Tales, I showed remorse for people posting comments on her facebook thread (which has since been taken down), Paper Takes said she didn't respond back initially cause she didn't see the point (which again, upset me, as at the end of the day I'm a customer), but I get she maybe felt upset cause she felt like her customers who are dear to her, were left without this stamp, BUT, she should have SAID NO, when I asked for 6 of these then. I will be responding to Paper Tales privately, KP on the other, I will not, she feels as if she did nothing wrong by staring the "fire", she has showed no remorse and I think people see her true colors (as do I). I personally will be selling anything with her name on it, I will be selling all the SIX stamps since NONE of my friends want them now, when the time comes I will reach out to those, who I felt were sincere in wanting to purchase these stamps and AGAIN - I WILL NOT BE MAKING A DIME OFF OF THESE AS THE FIRST TIME AROUND!!! I recently purchased a kit from KP, I will be selling that and I will be selling the $70 in products I purchased from Studio Calico for her class, I wont even bother emailing SC for a refund as we all know they don't give one, I will not be looking at the files from the class, and I will keep it moving. Again, thanks for all the kind words from EVERYONE.

PS - THANK KP FOR LISTING MY REAL NAME...MUCH APPRECIATE..people would have known who you were referring to without naming names....I can't...

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Posted: 4/15/2014 5:29:41 PM
The point is that Paper Tales and KP publicly outed you and flogged you and tried to shame you in front of your online peers- that is lame. I don't know your story, what your intentions were but to me it really makes NO difference at all- even if you made $100 on each stamp. You did not steal the stamps- you paid, fair and simple, they are yours to do with what you please.
I think the reason everyone is up in arms is that it could be anyone! We all purchase things online. I don't resell anything- but I do believe when I am exchanging my information with an online retailer that my purchase history is private. It's like PT and KP hacked themselves. Privacy is a big deal.
I've purchased a few coveted items here in the shop and elsewhere- imagine if i get a public flogging because I've never ever used them or showed a layout with them in it? Meanwhile someone else would have used/enjoyed the item more?! It's just bad policy.

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Posted: 4/15/2014 5:30:37 PM

I have replied to all of Xxxxxx's emails since Sunday and communicated with her about the issue privately.
Huh, I don't see that the OP had used her real name. And you've so generously given it to us. How passive aggressive of you. That hole just gets deeper and deeper.

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Posted: 4/15/2014 5:59:04 PM
I think it's in very poor taste to come onto another company's forum and publicly chastise and humiliate one of your customers. Shame on the company and the designer for using this forum in that way. And shame on them for all the negative comments on other sites as well. If you have issues with customers, you should handle them privately. Very immature and unprofessional. I won't be purchasing anything from the company or the designer. I think you're going to lose much more money now than you did with the sale of the stamps (in which you actually didn't lose anything). Ironic, isn't it?



Redvelvet78
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Posted: 4/15/2014 6:17:54 PM
So Kelly Purkey has publicly and privately chastised a customer of hers for doing nothing wrong? Publicly outed the customers name? And now she wants the rest of us to go away because she is over and done with it? Who does this designer think she is? I will make sure I never purchase anything with her name on it. I won't purchase My kit club for the month if there is a piece of her paper from her line with Basic Grey in it either. And I will let them both know. I'm embarrassed for you KP. is your ego so large you can not say sorry ? It's not your business what this lady does with these stamps. You got paid for them. Would you like to buy back everything she has bought from you ? You seem to have enough customers you don't mind losing a few. Your the professional here I expected far better from you and Papertales. Have you checked around this is a for sale or trade forum. And this is another stores forum. It's in bad taste for papertales and Kp to be here directing people to another store to purchase more stamps.

aerynkelly13
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Posted: 4/15/2014 6:18:47 PM
Way to shoot yourself in the foot, KP. Peas have LONG memories, and this will haunt *you* a lot longer than Paper Tales can stay in business. Nothing was resolved with her (refraining from using her name, since she didn't want that), no apologies have been made, seems like you're both still to blame for this situation, no matter how many posts Paper Tales deletes to try and make themselves look better.









iriscristata
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Posted: 4/15/2014 6:34:51 PM
I'm just glancing over the TERMS OF USE for 2peas, and found this interesting:

"No username may contain any store name, tradename, website domain name, or company name."

--- Looks like the username, "papertalessandiego", may be a store name?

"Prohibited Content includes, but is not limited to, Content that Two Peas determines in its sole discretion:
- provides any private and confidential information such as names, telephone numbers, street addresses, credit card numbers or Social Security Numbers;
- promotes information that you know is false or misleading or promotes illegal activities or conduct that is abusive, threatening, obscene, defamatory or libelous;"

--- I must have missed where the original poster posted her real name herself. I'd be upset if this potential personally identifiable information (PII) was published online without my consent.

--- I guess it's up to Two Peas to determine if there has been a violation of the TOU since it's at their sole discretion.

SoftKittyWarmKitty
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Posted: 4/15/2014 6:36:25 PM
This is EXACTLY what is wrong with these "pseudo scrap celebs" (self proclaimed?) that they do not bother to think of others, that their words have actions, and that they "have moved on" while not much will likely remedy this error now, and will likely hurt her popularity as well as any online business for Paper Tales.

People are just to f(*%#ing self absorbed anymore. It is such a shame that neither Kelly Purkey or Paper Tales actually see what they have done is wrong, as well as just don't "get it"

cycworker
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Posted: 4/15/2014 6:46:58 PM
I see both sides here.

Certainly, there's nothing wrong with one person creating a cart & ordering products for friends to save shipping. I know we do it all the time. The thing is, we have a agreement that once a certain date has past, that's it - you're committed, especially when it's a limited edition item.

I do think stores have a right to be concerned about current products being sold by non-retailers. It can take away business from them. So when some of her friends ended up not wanting the stamp, the OP, imo, should have contacted the store & checked to see if a refund, exchange or credit could be given for the unneeded merchandise.

Now that said, the store in question should've simply implemented a policy re: bulk buying, and done so in a way that didn't embarrass the OP. They certainly shouldn't have posted about this dispute on FB, Instagram, etc.


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Scrapinthedays
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Posted: 4/15/2014 7:03:47 PM
Oh boy. Another two peas dog fight! I haven't seen this level of drama since they discontinued twinkies. I don't know who Paper Tales is and kind of know who Kelly is. And since I live in Nebraska I have absolutely no interest in a California stamp! And quite frankly, as I've gotten older who has the energy anymore to care that much. It really sounds like a case of mixed signals and knee jerk reactions. I just don't get why people are so worked up? But one thing as I've followed along with this keeps clinking around in my head. If she had two left over from six friends why did she want 10 to begin with? I know I'm the lone dissenting voice but some reason that just sticks with me. Anyway, I'll leave all the hyperbole and high emotion to the rest of the peas while I retreat back to my life of observing the forums. Now if someone could make a Nebraska stamp then we're talking.... smile:

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Posted: 4/15/2014 7:16:04 PM


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PeaWee

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Posted: 4/15/2014 7:21:02 PM

I see both sides here.

Certainly, there's nothing wrong with one person creating a cart & ordering products for friends to save shipping. I know we do it all the time. The thing is, we have a agreement that once a certain date has past, that's it - you're committed, especially when it's a limited edition item.

I do think stores have a right to be concerned about current products being sold by non-retailers. It can take away business from them. So when some of her friends ended up not wanting the stamp, the OP, imo, should have contacted the store & checked to see if a refund, exchange or credit could be given for the unneeded merchandise.

Now that said, the store in question should've simply implemented a policy re: bulk buying, and done so in a way that didn't embarrass the OP. They certainly shouldn't have posted about this dispute on FB, Instagram, etc.



I am not sure that you do see both sides clearly! (no disrepect intended either!!!)

The PT store SOLD her the items. Took her money. GLADLY. They were not concerned then that "it would take business away from them" which is silly anyway--as the customer was a paying one, retail at that! The customer ordered and paid retail for stamps. The retailer allowed her to do so, and took her money. The items then became hers to do what she wanted with them. the store has no say in what happens to the stamps after they have been sold.

They were wrong, all the way around. The purchaser is not obligated to contact the company to ask about a return because two of her friends backed out of buying the stamp sets. The OP of this thread was not scalping them or being dishonest as PT and KP would have you believe.

They are the ones who should be ashamed of themselves.

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Posted: 4/15/2014 7:34:48 PM
Free-bird: I was going to search that thread out


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Redvelvet78
50 Peas in a pod.

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Posted: 4/15/2014 7:41:54 PM
Dear Scrapinthedays, nice first post, you seem to have missed a few facts. She paid full retail for the stamps. It doesn't matter if she came here to sell two or four extra. People do it all of the time. The problem is a store and a "designer" came here and started all of this drama. They publicly tried to shame a customer, wrongfully, on here, facebook and their blog. No matter what this lady did , she nor any customer do not deserve ever to be treated this way.

melanell
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Posted: 4/15/2014 7:45:11 PM

Your reactions here and across social media platforms makes you look and sound like a foot stomping little kid.


ITA. It shocks me every time we see this kind of thing here. I don't understand what these business women are thinking when they behave this way at all.

And I agree that Pea memories are long. I have a mental list of places and people I will not deal with due to the sad way they handled a customer issue on a public social site.




PennyPaws
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:03:13 PM
KP, please do a kindness and edit your post to remove the OP's name... Changing it from her name to her PeaName wouldn't change the message of your post or weaken the position you've chosen...


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PeaWee

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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:26:20 PM
Well, ok then. I was unaware that everything in this thread was attached to an affidavit. I just jumped in because I thought it was interesting that she wanted 10. I tend to see things from all sides and thought this was an interesting note. Sometimes I just like to be a devil's advocate. I don't know anything other than what was written here on this thread. But one thing I DO know about the peas is that they sure do get quite invested in a good car wreck. I may not comment but I do like to read the forums for a few chuckles.

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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:46:53 PM
Did we learn nothing from the Donna Downey debacle?




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rachelrainbow
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:50:28 PM
I wonder if KP or PT would have cared so much if the OP bought all the stamps and just RAK'd them. There really is no difference, as far as I'm concerned. The OP paid for the stamps and is free to do with them as she pleases.

nual_scrappeuse
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Posted: 4/15/2014 8:50:52 PM
So beyond inappropriate for Kelly Purkey to list the OP's real name in a response. As if the behavior of Kelly Purkey and Paper Tales wasn't bad enough, that pushed me over to the boycott wagon. I'll even go as far as to write to companies letting them know what I think of one of their designers. Unbelievable!

Once someone buys a product it is not yours anymore. So get off your high horse!

papersilly
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Posted: 4/15/2014 9:27:45 PM
I told you it was Donna Downey all over again. I guess KP didnt see my first post when i suggested she lay low. The subsequent remarks during the DD incident just made things worse too. Have the sense to stay mum. Both of you.


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