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S/O kit clubs: If you still keep shopping, why not just buy the contents you like?
Post ReplyPost New TopicPosted 10/3/2012 by tinkgumby in General Scrappin'
 

tinkgumby
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Posted: 10/3/2012 4:35:48 PM
This is not meant at ALL to be a snarky question, but genuinely wondering - if you are one of those (apparently many) people who continue your scrappy shopping despite having kit subscriptions - why not just buy the elements that you like from 2Peas or the like?

Is it not considered "ethical" to copy someone's kit ideas? Are there layout ideas that come in the kit that you wouldn't otherwise get? Is it that there are exclusives? Or the convenience?

I really do love the idea of a kit coming in the mail every month, but I have yet to find a kit club that I *really* love the look of enough to commit (though Gossamer Blue, Cafe Club and Scraptastic have come close). And then I look at the contents, and look at the price, and think . . . I could order the parts of this that I really like for MUCH less and get free shipping!

So just wondering what your thoughts are on this!

slyn11
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Posted: 10/3/2012 4:46:58 PM
I like that kits come coordinated, complete with embellishments. It is a no brainer way to create nice layouts.

I do shop for things that I like, papers that catch my eye etc...and sometimes those things never end up in kits I order, because it is of a different style. Kits help broaden my horizons, so I am not stuck with a stash filled with prima, glitz designs and graphic45 (my favorites) that won't work for half of my photos.

For me, kits plus shopping give me a nice well rounded usable stash.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 4:48:06 PM
In my case I sub to a kit club that specializes in boy themes so it just makes it easier to not have to hunt down the collections or make sure I get to my LSS before the selection is picked over. If I do see a collection that I really REALLY love I will order it knowing there is a good chance it'll be in a kit in the near future, but that just means more to love


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Posted: 10/3/2012 5:32:54 PM
I joined SC because the thought of everything being coordinated sounded great. The problem was I noticed about half of the colors, designs, etc. I didn't like.

I also joined SC because I loved their stamps. The problem is I have sooo many stamps, I'll never come close to using all that I have. And I hate to say this, but I haven't really been blown away with the past couple of months' stamps. They're nice, but not my style I guess. Kelley Purkey is no longer designing stamps for SC, and I guess it was her style that I adore. She's designed a couple of exclusives for Simon Says Stamps, and I love those, so that's where I'll keep my eyes open if I want stamps.

I also joined because the exclusives that SC has in their kits, but it goes back to my first point--not all that thrilled with the colors/designs lately.

I think SC has great quality products, but with what I have that I like, I'm set for a long time. And if there's a kit that comes out that blows me away, I'll hit the FSOT Board here if I can't get it directly from SC.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 5:39:52 PM
I like that the kit had coordinated supplies from multiple manufacturers and I don't have to stare at my monitor and try to match colors and designs. Also, you get bits of embellies instead of whole packs. For example, I only need a couple wood veneers for a mini album, not a whole pack of 30 of the same design. And finally, you get things you wouldn't normally buy, so you are encouraged to step out of your box from time to time.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 5:42:43 PM
I only ordered a kit once, and I can't even remember why, but normally I just do what you suggest, buy what I like.

That being said, the one advantage I did see was Embellishments. I got to add stuff to my pages that I would never have bought for myself, and gave the pages a little something extra. Also, the kit had some really nice paper that my LSS didn't sell, so I thought that was nice. Even though I didn't think much of that paper went with the photos I had on hand at the time, it did go with photos I took later.

I also think kits would be great for those who do not live near an LSS, and would order them regularly if I were in that category, but know I would be placing more online orders as well, at least at first, as the kits wouldn't go with all the photos.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 5:42:52 PM
I like that the kit had coordinated supplies from multiple manufacturers and I don't have to stare at my monitor and try to match colors and designs. Also, you get bits of embellies instead of whole packs. For example, I only need a couple wood veneers for a mini album, not a whole pack of 30 of the same design. And finally, you get things you wouldn't normally buy, so you are encouraged to step out of your box from time to time.



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Posted: 10/3/2012 5:51:04 PM
I don't subscribe, but I watch & stalk religiously. When a kit really strikes me I stay up late for reveal and buy it (although I've only ever purchased 4 kits in the past 3 years). A lot of times though I see things that I'd never really noticed before and I come here and buy them. I like to keep the majority of my purchases in one spot and take advantage of the loyalty discounts.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:00:14 PM
I think the main advantage of the kit club is that I don't feel I have to keep up with the latest and greatest products from all of the manufacturers. I spent a lot of time looking for the right kit club for me, and I feel like I get a good mix of new products that works well for my style and that I'm not missing out on anything.

Most importantly - I don't feel like I need to spend hours going through products on 2peas when shopping. So that really frees me up to go and get some actual scrapping done!

That said, there are a handful of manufacturers that I really love and keep tabs on; when they come out with new product, I do buy it and add it to my stash.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:04:37 PM
If you try to replicate a kit (and I don't see anything unethical there unless you are reselling them as kits,lol!) it's difficult because many times those popular items in the kits sell out immediately as the kit contents are revealed- it would be hard to replicate. Plus there are some exclusives so you can't get those. The main problem is the sell outs of the popular items.

Noonie
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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:04:50 PM
I love Studio Calico's kits because they are put together so nicely. A lot of items I could purchase from 2peas, but it's nice having all the work done for me and getting a coordinate kit in the mail. Then I get to shop for other little things that aren't in the kits but I love.

Also, Studio Calico has so many exclusive items, it's amazing. Exclusive stamps and paper every month and embellishments!! I love them.

But I still love shopping!
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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:12:37 PM
From what I have seen kit clubs and other shopping satisfy two different scrapbooking needs.

Kits tend to give you a mix of supplies and manufacturers as well as often exclusive elements such as stamps. They give you a sampling of many lines, mix things up and often challenge you to try things you have not tried before or look at a product in a different way.

With regular scrapbook shopping you are often grabbing smoking deals on products, buying for a specific project or stocking up on things like plain cardstock. It is also common to try a new product from a kit and find you like it then buy more from another source.




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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:22:15 PM
For me, that's part of the reason I quit subscribing to the kit club I belonged to. I liked the assortment of items, but I like picking my own stuff more.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:23:58 PM

many times those popular items in the kits sell out immediately as the kit contents are revealed- it would be hard to replicate.


That is very true and some layouts just don't come together right without some key piece.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:26:10 PM
Sometimes SC introduces me to lines I have not yet seen and makes me open up my scrappy borders.

I am fine with buying, provided that I'm using. Apart from 3 pcs of the cs from the card kit and one pc of AC paper from the main, my supply from the last month is exhausted.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:26:15 PM
This is why I don't join kit clubs. Exactly.

I love the coordinated look.
I love the idea that all the work is done for me.
I love new papers when the come out.
I love the look of not using just a collection line together and I can't do it myself most times.
I love surprises in the mail.

I DON'T love letter stickers.
I DON'T love weird embellishments I'll never use like paperclips and toothpicks with bits of paper on them.
I DON'T love papers I'd never buy cos they're ugly.
I DON'T love stamps I'll never use.
I DON'T love journalling cards or random ticket stubs to nothing.

So you know what I do? I look at a kit club's images and I'll either buy that way or pair my papers that way when I'm scrapping. I don't want to waste my money on stuff I don't want, I only have a limited amount of money to begin with! So yes, a few clubs (like SC and CD) have some exclusives I can't get elsewhere, but I'm willing to do without those to not have things in my stash that make me feel like I wasted my money on something I don't love. That just leaves me with an unhappy, guilty feeling and that's not what scrapping is about for me!



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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:28:24 PM
I like not having to do the work of shopping around. I like the exclusives. When I buy things that are not in kits (and I do) it is often because I want more of a particular item from the kit that I might not have picked out on my own, or because I want seasonal things (SC, eg, didn't have Halloween or back-to-school stuff this fall, so I placed a nice Two Peas order for those things).

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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:51:42 PM
I sub to Cocoa Daisy, but buy everything else a la carte. Why? I like having my Cocoa Daisy kits together for when I really want to scrap but have limited time, when I really want to scrap but don't have time to pull everything out, and when I want to scrap on the go. I can't imagine what I'd use multiple kit clubs for, since part of going through my stash is where I have fun. I do so like the look of Gossamer Blue, and might try that after Cocoa Daisy.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:58:57 PM
I only get the SSC kit and it's more for the sketches and ease of use than anything. I'm very busy with work and family stuff so when I can carve out time to scrap, I like to get lots done. The SSC kit is perfect for that. I love the style and the products they use. Actually, there have been several lines in the SSC kit that I never would've bought online (I don't have a close LSS) but seeing them in person, I loved them and bought more.

The only time it's a little bit aggravating is when they use Simple Stories because I buy every single collection pack that comes out right away. So I get duplicates of SS but at least I love it



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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:59:41 PM

I also joined SC because I loved their stamps. The problem is I have sooo many stamps, I'll never come close to using all that I have. And I hate to say this, but I haven't really been blown away with the past couple of months' stamps. They're nice, but not my style I guess. Kelley Purkey is no longer designing stamps for SC, and I guess it was her style that I adore. She's designed a couple of exclusives for Simon Says Stamps, and I love those, so that's where I'll keep my eyes open if I want stamps.


April told us in a thread the other day that the stamps are actually commisioned out to the same person that does all the designing.

here is her reply here
For October, Matt designed the ones in crack the whip, but the rest were designed by Ann Marie Morris. It is important to note that these designs are for the most part, commissioned so there's a ton of direction even when KP was designing the stamps. We never just said "give us a stamp" it's totally a team effort from customer requests, to DT ideas, and if all else fails, my ideas

As to why i buy kits, i LOVE that it is all done for me, also i love in NZ and even with shipping on top it is still cheaper for me to buy in the USA, we do not get free shipping anywhere apart from SC, lucky for me i LOVE then kits. The last couple have not been my fave colour scheme but it is always the same during fall time for me.

I do not buy much outside of SC at all, i maybe do a 2peas order once every few months to pick up stamps or bits n bobs but never paper etc


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Posted: 10/3/2012 7:59:01 PM
Caz--I did see that post from April a few days ago. But for some reason they just seem to have a different feel/look to them. When I saw the exclusive stamps KP did for Simon Says Stamps, they were very similar in style, font, etc. to what the kit stamps were.

I feel bad saying I don't like the stamps because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but it really is more the style isn't what I'm drawn to at the moment, kwim?

I've had some pretty good luck here on the FSOT Board, so if something comes out that I miss out on (and I'm sure there will be ) I'll have to be patient and try for it at a later date.


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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:18:04 PM
I appreciate all the responses and points of view! Since I haven't been able to find a kit club that I 100% - or even 85% - love, I guess I'm probably better off just continuing to buy what appeals to me. Pity, though - a scrap kit subscription would be a GREAT Christmas wish list item!

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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:29:46 PM
I have subbed to a few over the years. For one, I like the different items to try/use that is not what I would normally use. Break out of my comfort zone a little. I don't really stamp, but have been puttering with it a bit more (thanks to watching some Nichol Maguiork videos) I love that it is all coordinated for me with a few instead of a whole pack of embellies. To be quite honest, I don't do a lot of shopping outside of my kit club kits I get each month. If I do purchase anything, it is something I know won't be in the kits. And, I love the happy mail sitting outside my front door each month.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:26:20 PM
I could never be a totally committed 100% online scrapbook store customer. I prefer kits and find that I actually save money. How is that you ask??? Well, I've tried many times to duplicate a particular kit that I just loved. You cannot find everything in the kit at one LSS or online store. It's impossible. If you were to do that, you would end up paying 3 different stores shipping, plus you may be even making a trip to your LSS trying to pick up the items quicker. So, I would rather pay $5-7 shipping to get a great kit with a wonderful mix of things that I didn't spend hours trying to find, or trying to coordinate colors with different manufacturers--the work has been done for me!

Also, like some others have said, I like to get a little out of my comfort zone, like the bits and pieces and rarely need a full pack of any embellishment, so it's nice to have a mixed up sampling of coordinated products. Embellishments especially! A great concept for an online store to come up with would to start opening up packages and selling "pieces" of each at 10 cents or 25 cents a piece and let us pick and choose what we would like. You can't get that through a store, but you can get that in a round about way with a kit club. There is a kit club out there that sells page kits and has a store where she breaks downs the embellishments and sell them separately. I would still be shopping there if the products were newer.

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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:28:12 PM
Oh, and one more important thing I forgot to say! Don't judge the kit just buy what you don't like in it....go to the gallery and see what the DT has done with what you don't like...I bet you change your mind! That's another thing I like about kits, I can "lift" from their gallery very easily because I have all the things in the kit!

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Posted: 10/3/2012 10:47:25 PM
Thanks for the insight, Scraplizard! Now, you're the one who admitted to the 51 boxes of kits, right? Which one has been your favorite (which I guess you could either interpret as "used the most" or "loved so much you didn't want to use it," hee hee)?


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Posted: 10/3/2012 11:18:26 PM
I agree with what a lot of others have said but wanted to add my two cents. For me, a kit is a good jumping off point. I usually start with the kit and add in my stash as needed. It has really helped me with figuring out what goes together and what looks good together. Also, they match the colors for you. It is really hard to tell online what colors will match.
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